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christianoliff 2008-05-29 17:50

Re: Canola Beta 9 : Bug reports, Feedback, Suggestions
 
Hello. The only feature I'd like to see is support for M4A. (mpeg4 audio). I have lots of iTunes Plus music (no DRM) and Canola doesn't see the files. The built-in standard media player of my n800 (os2008) plays them 100% fine.

handful 2008-05-30 03:13

Re: Canola Beta 9 : Bug reports, Feedback, Suggestions
 
Hi christian, indeed, we are taking a look in how to implement it safely on canola. indeed the media player can do it, but it seems that we faced some problems in beta6 with support to it, removed to make it better. There's a couple of issues we are trying to figure out how to solve.

Marcelo

mwiktowy 2008-05-30 04:28

Re: Canola Beta 9 : Bug reports, Feedback, Suggestions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by khalid (Post 186253)
Another problem I am noticing is canola2 sometimes takes a long time to start up. When this happens, it takes 30 seconds or longer for the canola screen to even appear. Once canola screen appears, it gets stuck at "Starting Canola" for 2-5 minutes. It will then finally switch to "Updating Media Library" and can stay there for some time (>1 minute). This problem was worse with beta8. I have left beta8 running like this for half hour before it got to main canola screen. Beta 9 just did this again. It was still stuck at "Updating Media Library" after 5 minutes of launching canola. Every time this happens, I have found that I can kill canola, start it again right away and it will start normally, i.e. I get to canola main screen in 10-15 seconds.

I am now experiencing that *exact* same problem.

I wasn't before and the only thing I did was try the audio boost hack by:
editing ~/.atabake/config
- correct the "mplayer = mplayer" line to "video = mplayer"
- changed "audio = oms" to "audio = mplayer"
and
editing ~/.mplayer/config
- add the line "af=volume=12:0" to boost my volume by 12 dB.


Aside: OK ... I had to back the gain way down to 3dB and turned on the clipping compensation to listen to some mp3s that I have without my ears bleeding. I suspect they were normalized to 100% or may contain some distortion that turning up the gain just makes worse/noticable.

nilchak 2008-05-30 20:02

Re: Canola Beta 9 : Bug reports, Feedback, Suggestions
 
OK, this is a feature request - not a bug report.

On our long trip to Maine, I downloaded some Childrens videos and nursery rhymes for our daughter from Youtube. This kept her company very well on the long road trips. Thanks to Canola.

And now, my 3 1/2 year old daughter knows how to operate Canola too - she knows for her Baa Baa Black sheep and other rhymes, she has to select YouTube option and for her audio music she goes to Audio option (she amazes me with her tech savvyness - or Canola savvyness I should say).

On the You tube -> Local Videos option she did scroll around and play her stored videos, but the Tash bin icon and the bright red "DELETE" button attacts here a lot and she pressed the delete option quite a few times only to find her favourite Youtube downloads gone from the menu.

I had to pull the car over and stop to calm her down when she started screaming after not finding her videos (and at the next wifi spot in town had to redownload some of them).

So here is my suggestions to Canola team - can there be a option for locking the delete button so that there is no accidental delete ?
I know, I am asking for options which are not really needed but only for making Canola child proof.

But Kudos to Canola for being so intuitive and simple a UI even for a 3 1/2 year old.

handful 2008-05-30 21:10

Re: Canola Beta 9 : Bug reports, Feedback, Suggestions
 
Wow dude :)
We got so happy about this, that I will personally find a way to do that for you :)
First i will ask the guys if there's a option :) but... there's a good thing. If you download only youtube videos. put them on one memory card, they will appear on the My Videos with no delete buttons :) so you will be safe. The only draw back is that the name of the video will be the youtube Hash, but the thumbnail will be there, (and your kid is 3 so please don;'t tell me that she reads already because I will know that she is a genius and is going to make her own canola before being 7yold :)))) )

So my guide for you :

a. Select your download folders on the internet media settings (the memory card you will use for that, if there's more videos for her place them there)

b. download the youtube videos

c. Go to settings, media library and make sure the CARD (not any internal folder) is selected, the videos will be parsed and addded to the local video sections.

d. Refresh the media library!

Voila now you will need to convice her to use the MY VIDEOS
instead of youtube (I think the White icon will get more attention from her as she is used to that :)

Also another tip : as she will use the thumbs more than anyone else, you can start the playback from the my videos options and in the non-fullscreen playback hit options when there's a good screen to save it as thumbnail for the video to make it quite clear for her what video or kind it is... This will avoid any " black thumbnailed" video on the real videos.

Hope you like this,

And I am so HAPPY with the feedback :) if you (don't need to show her face only her hands) could videotap her using that we from the team would gladly accept this as the best payment ever :))))))

sashabe 2008-05-31 17:06

Re: Canola Beta 9 : Bug reports, Feedback, Suggestions
 
hi , thanks to the team of Canola for this wonderful app;)
Though it behaves stable (beta 9 on N810), there's one annoyning issue i've noticed, sound stutters a lot when using Canola's audio player in background, ie when browsing. Would it be possible to make music flow more stable, like default Media player? Now Canola reacts on every CPU load:(

handful 2008-05-31 23:11

Re: Canola Beta 9 : Bug reports, Feedback, Suggestions
 
Hi Shasha.. can you take a look if there's other applications also fighting for cpu? Indeed canola is cpu intensive, but when it's on the background it shouldn't be that heavy. Are you listening to some kind of audio that is using media player instead of default media player?

Can you try modifying atabake config to use OMS instead of mplayer. this reduces the load as the default player usually is lighter then playing mplayer.

Also : what kind of audio files are you listening to?

Marcelo

spice3d 2008-06-01 15:48

Re: Canola Beta 9 : Bug reports, Feedback, Suggestions
 
Marcelo:

I get this stuttering when listening to WMAs and going through the Canola interface. No problems when playing MP3s. WMA decoding must be more CPU intensive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sashabe (Post 187521)
hi , thanks to the team of Canola for this wonderful app;)
Though it behaves stable (beta 9 on N810), there's one annoyning issue i've noticed, sound stutters a lot when using Canola's audio player in background, ie when browsing. Would it be possible to make music flow more stable, like default Media player? Now Canola reacts on every CPU load:(


talmage 2008-06-01 20:54

Happy with Canola
 
I want the Canola team to know that I bought an N800 just so I could run Canola and Maemo Mapper. I put two 16GB SD cards in mine and gave my 30GB iPod With Video (the 5.5 generation one) to my sister.

I'm impressed by the steady progress that the team has made in bringing Canola to the public. I'll be thrilled when the gapless playback and UPnP controller features are working!

Keep up the good work!

YoDude 2008-06-01 21:44

Re: Canola Beta 9 : Bug reports, Feedback, Suggestions
 
Since this is the 12th page of this thread, forgive me if this has been mentioned before. :)

I have been happily using the LastFM plug-in and noticed that Canola does not initiate an Internet connection when one is required.

Also. scrobling is very intriguing to me and works well with LastFM. Can this technology be incorporated with-in Canola?
That is, with large SDHC cards available I find that the music I now carry to be an eclectic mix of over a 1,000 tunes. There are times when I want mellow and times when I want head bangin' music, and still other times when I might just want to listen to instrumentals.

Perhaps having Canola decide what to play randomly based on the style of your first selection would be a desirable feature.


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