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attila77 2009-08-19 12:18
Re: How can we encourage iPhone developers to develop on Maemo?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fms (Post 313021)
It is not a vicious circle. You start small, and at first you attract/migrate users and developers who are already likely to migrate to your platform. In the case of Maemo, these are going to be Symbian/S60, WinMo, and of course various Javaphone people. By doing this, you are growing user base and developer base. Once your platform (Maemo in our case) is established on the market,
Our definitions of 'small', 'established' and 'vicious circle' obviously differ by quite a margin :)

fms 2009-08-19 12:29
Re: How can we encourage iPhone developers to develop on Maemo?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 313026)
Our definitions of 'small', 'established' and 'vicious circle' obviously differ by quite a margin :)
Yes, you seem to call spiral a "circle" :)

zerojay 2009-08-19 12:31
Re: How can we encourage iPhone developers to develop on Maemo?
 
Hey guys, let's not bite off more than we can chew here, huh? How about we concentrate on just making the platform attractive, viable and alive first, hmm?

nilchak 2009-08-19 12:52
Re: How can we encourage iPhone developers to develop on Maemo?
 
I think much of this thread has been about attracting a set of developers exclusionary to another set of developers. I dont still understand why we have to have a exclusionary mentality to attracting any set of developers.

So what if iPhone developers are odious. So what if Java developers don't create bloatware, so what if WinMo devs are not creative .... its not about developers attached to their platform, its bringing in developers based on Maemo's strength.

There's nothing to be gained by excluding any group and not trying to attract all kinds of developers. Ultimately when any of those other platform developers start developing for Maemo, they are all Maemo developers.

ysss 2009-08-19 13:01
Re: How can we encourage iPhone developers to develop on Maemo?
 
This sort of 'keep it niche' mentality reminds me of the goth/emo/geeks/ outcasts in highschool. Or the 'l33ts' on IRC.

Nothing wrong with competing in the mainstream, don't be afraid of the crowd :D

zerojay 2009-08-19 13:09
Re: How can we encourage iPhone developers to develop on Maemo?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ysss (Post 313036)
This sort of 'keep it niche' mentality reminds me of the goth/emo/geeks/ outcasts in highschool. Or the 'l33ts' on IRC.

Nothing wrong with competing in the mainstream, don't be afraid of the crowd :D
That's not what I'm saying.

fms 2009-08-19 13:11
Re: How can we encourage iPhone developers to develop on Maemo?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 313035)
I dont still understand why we have to have a exclusionary mentality to attracting any set of developers.
Because in the real world (evidently located outside this thread) attracting each different group of developers takes different actions and all these actions cost time and money. so, naturally, you have to prioritize by cost and expected conversion rate.

Of course, in the imaginary world of bloggers and forum posters, you can get 'em all, instantly, and for free, just by crying loud.

Bundyo 2009-08-19 13:21
Re: How can we encourage iPhone developers to develop on Maemo?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fms (Post 313039)
Because in the real world (evidently located outside this thread) attracting each different group of developers takes different actions and all these actions cost time and money. so, naturally, you have to prioritize by cost and expected conversion rate.

Of course, in the imaginary world of bloggers and forum posters, you can get 'em all, instantly, and for free, just by crying loud.
Well, that depends on what are you crying out loud... :D

gerbick 2009-08-19 13:24
Re: How can we encourage iPhone developers to develop on Maemo?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fms (Post 313012)
iPhone/etc. users is not how you will grow the community in this case. Unless you are mega success, you should grow community by converting Symbian and MIDP users/developers, i.e. guys that would naturally want to upgrade by switching.
Good luck with that. Seems like Symbian just isn't that popular with developers either.

ysss 2009-08-19 14:11
Re: How can we encourage iPhone developers to develop on Maemo?
 
@zerojay: Sorry, that wasn't directed to your previous post. I agree with your message, actually.

@gerbick: Wow, I didn't know RIM has that many developers working on their platform. I do have a BB Bold and I haven't found any apps really 'exciting' on it unfortunately.. even basic PIM apps seem to be bested by WinMo or even PalmOS offerings (Agendus). I guess this is something to look forward to.

After reading about Symbian's performance and looking at Maemo's languishing movements... is it just me or does Nokia not know how to deal with software developers..


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