Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 

You cannot tell me they didn't market the N900 like it was "THE" device to have. They made it seem as if the phone was going to be great. We need only to look at the N95 8gb to see it. Wasn't that phone marketed as a mobile computer? So it would only make sense that if you like Nokia products and you didn't buy the N96 or the N97 that the N900 would be the logical choice. Don't get me wrong, I think that it is better than most but some of the problems that plague the platform are deal breakers for most. I drive a lot in Chicago and I would always lament having to keep the n95 in the car to see if there is traffic somewhere. I have to actually surf the web to find stuff close to me as opposed to "having an app for that."-All this while driving is hard, dangerous, and wreckless(by me). They might not be holding it back just because but they are losing customers and showing themselves in an unflattering light- whether intentional or not.

Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 

It already did. Harmattan is a kinda-sorta MeeGo, so it's more of a 4.5 of 5 than a finalized platform evolutionary path..

Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 

Except the whole reason Maemo doesn't have these features and isn't a polished platform is because of the missing support from management. Nobody can honestly believe it'd take 6 years to ship a well-polished device with reasonable resources. ;)

Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 

I guess that depends on location as well.

At the time I didn't see any marketing for N900 apart from some viral on-line stuff. It was basicly targeted for geeks. Meanwhile N97 Mini, X6 and Comes With Music was plastered on sides of trams and busses, street sign marketing, television ads, etc.

Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 

Not for Nokia, the market they address, they way they do it, and their corporate paradigms.

The big problem here is that people try to shoe-horn Nokia into turning Apple and that's not gonna happen. Period. Apple is The Beatles, you can't be the Beatles again without looking silly. If something, Nokia wants to be Led Zeppelin.

And this http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=262.

Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 

Which company is The Clash? I wanna buy their phone. :cool:

Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 

Well, I do not understand what do you mean here, and feel lost :)

I appreciate the contents of that blog, but simply want to report that at least between my friends the ones having money buyed an iphone, the ones not having money dream to buy an iphone, a couple of them (mee too) buyed the n900 after the openmoko freerunner death.

Others are (young) guys that own a 50euro nokia and have not interest in smartphones/computer at all, but trust me, one iphone user impacts on the market more than 10 of that young guys sending sms or buying ring tones for a maximum of 50 euros/year.

It may be I know bad people :)

Niko

Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 

The only explanation is that it was not a very profitable device. Eg costs X, but can only sell at X + Y. Compared to other cheaper product lines, the profit margin could not be justified with limited resources unless it sold crazy crazy number of units..

Alternatively, the entire Nokia management might be just 'waiting out for their pensions' and don't want to rock the boat...

Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 

Are you sure it's not all those large numbers of people who USED to own a Nokia product and felt the frustrating burn from incredibly bad support (phone, repairs, parts, communications, etc.) and a company that tried to tell consumers what products they wanted instead of listening to customers to build the products they wanted. Just in my circle of influence, I know that I convinced a lot of people to buy Nokia for a time and now they and I have been burned so badly that we can't, in good consciousness, tell anyone to buy Nokia--and in fact, I'm quite intent to make it known what they should expect for communication and support to dissuade purchasing.

Word of mouth is a much harder thing to fix. Nokia would be wise to come out and apologize to customers and make it their mission to listen, for once, and provide customers with what they want--even if there's a cost to it, people would LIKE to have support and options so that they don't feel abandoned with their purchase.

Re: The CEO of Nokia might be getting fired! LG's GW990 not coming out either!?
 

That is precisely one of the points of the blog I just linked:

Faster than a locomotive, leap over giant buildings - yes, its... SMS! Text messaging has twice the users of email, twice the size of television: " SMS text messaging passed 100 Billion dollars in annual revenues two years ago and has now passed 113 Billion dollars in annual revenues for 2009. How big is that? For context, the global music industry is worth about 20 Billion dollars. Hollywood box office revenues are about 25 Billion dollars. Videogaming software income and console sales, combined, are worth about 40 Billion dollars." (this is the reason makers push the QWERTY phones, btw).

And for the app obsessed:

The Apps Stores are as irrelevant to mobile telecoms as Segway is to cars with more key paragraphs:

"Today apps stores are trivial - trivial - in total income to the industry. Trivial. No. I can't accept that. Trivial is far too positive a word. LESS THAN TRIVIAL. For those geeks and nerds who obsess about smartphones daily, and who can recite all versions of all operating systems and their launch dates, then yes, we may perhaps PERHAPS want to look into apps stores a couple of times per year."

"Yankee Group measured in 2009 that the total value of all apps sold in all Apps Stores, not just the Apple iPhone App Store was worth 343 million dollars. I do not mean to belittle some number that is hundreds of millions of dollars worldwide, and yes, its a very attractive opportuntiy for any application developer."

"That 343 million total value of all apps store sales globally in 2009, compares to 5 BILLION dollars of annual income for one category of downloaded content of paid mobile service worldwide - get this - the ringing tone (says Juniper Research). I do not mean full track downloads to phones, not 'real tones' type of better quality ringing tones and am not talking about 'ringback tones' - each of which is also worth over a billlion dollars for mobile content by the way. No, basic ringing tones are worth 5 Billion dollars all by themselves.

Just one '*****ic' type of ultra-simplistic cellphone content type, the basic 'ploink-ploink' style ringing tone, that is downloaded roughly speaking by about ten percent of global cellphone owners, earns 14 times more than ALL app stores worldwide, not just Apple's. (and yes, you read it right, basic dumb ringing tones sell more than 2.5X more than all iTunes music sales worldwide annually)." (Now you see why the Ovi Store is full of those?).