Re: Community input for new t.m.o. policy
 

It is there. You can still say whatever you want. Aside of not getting political/religious or too personal on anyone, the subjects, or individual opinions, are not really limited. Just the form of expression is to be watched.

Freedom of speech seems to be commonly misunderstood (on purpose?) as freedom from responsibility. Which is why it doesn't go well with anonymity/pseudonymity IMHO.

Remember kids: "With great power comes great responsibility".


On another topic, let me be the first to ask if the name of the standard Unix filesystem check utility is considered as filter avoidance? =)

Re: Community input for new t.m.o. policy
 

This is a tired old refrain. Protection of speech is provided by governments, not talk forums. Pure freedom of speech in a forum leads to anarchy and chaos. Nothing productive could be accomplished.

That said, this forum is highly tolerant.

Re: Community input for new t.m.o. policy
 

Can I poke 'im in the eye if he says "freedom of speech" again, Sam? Can I? Can I? :)

Re: Community input for new t.m.o. policy
 

That and people don't seem to get that freedom of speech is usually only guaranteed in public spaces. I can't go into your house and start screaming and insulting everybody. Why do you think you can do it on a forum?

Re: Community input for new t.m.o. policy
 

Wow, its actually cool to see that change and know i had a hand in it.

I hope my post wasn't interpreted to have a hostile intent. I was merely discussing those things.

In the interests of further discussion, I would still like to see "infractions" and "rules" brought together under one section.

Re: Community input for new t.m.o. policy
 

I second this.

I think it should be ordered

1. Intro/"Preamble"
2. Forum Rules
3. Infractions and Banning
4. Moderation
5. Avatars
6. Signatures
7. maemo.org ToC/PP
8. Addenda

Also might want to correct this:

Re: Community input for new t.m.o. policy
 

Does the rule about not posting illegal content mean we must not talk details about reverse engineering when the position is uncertain?

Thanks

Re: Community input for new t.m.o. policy
 

That depends doesn't it? Afaik (and IANAL) reverse engineering was ruled ok in the USA. Not sure in the EU.

Re: Community input for new t.m.o. policy
 

Those rules are too strict and do not adress any problem except that of some people that have gotten tired of viewing "the same useless threads". Yet they jump in each time and make sure to mention how useless the thread is, even if some guys there have a civilized conversation.
Moreover, all those terms such as trolling and flamebaiting are pretty vague and each one can interpret them in his own way. Finally deleting posts for "any reason" and banning conversation about deleted content is unacceptable.
Just consider the possible abuse of this, especially in a public dispute.
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Re: Community input for new t.m.o. policy
 

I disagree. The moderation on this forum has been so tolerant of trolling, flamebaiting and repetition that the signal to noise ratio has reached ridiculous levels. Personally, I used to spend a lot more time here in the past until I started getting fed up of the tired old threads, same attacks, trolling and misdirected anger at the community for perceived ills that Nokia bore the disgruntled newcomers (well, relative to me - I am a n00b also, I'd say). And while I probably don't (cannot?) contribute much to the community here, there are many more people who are much more important than I that have felt the same - or worse...

Two posts addressing this:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=72
and
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=112