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wmarone 2010-06-30 21:41

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Originally Posted by Jack6428 (Post 736174)
Well that's cool and all, but you do realize that not everyone has the skills and considering MeeGo is a mainstream OS, there shouldn't be a need to know how to do that stuff.

The GUI you see now is -not- the mainstream GUI. Nokia, whoever uses this on their devices will likely create their own. This is the reference GUI that the average person will never use.

If you buy a Nokia MeeGo, or LG MeeGo device, you won't see this interface. Maybe something similar, maybe not.

If you at all work with the community version, you'll probably use this initially or eventually someone will use a modified version. Who knows.

fatalsaint:
Sadly, I suspect that vendor-UIs (other than Nokia) will probably keep their homescreen UIs very proprietary.

fatalsaint 2010-06-30 21:45

Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
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Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 736182)
fatalsaint:
Sadly, I suspect that vendor-UIs (other than Nokia) will probably keep their homescreen UIs very proprietary.

I'm pretty sure of that as well - but still, the main point in what I'm saying is that I am sure third-parties or open source people will make their own UI's, or modify the Reference UI here, and I would imagine that those would be installable on any MeeGo device if you don't like what you get "from the factory" so to speak.

elris 2010-06-30 21:45

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Hey, do you think there will be something like Easy Debian on MeeGo? Maybe Easy Fedora?

superg05 2010-06-30 21:47

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Originally Posted by Crashdamage (Post 736070)
It already IS 'mid-2010' - June 30th. And Android 2.2 is just trickling out. So I'm gonna stick my neck out and predict the rumors were wrong.

http://www.machackpc.com/featured/nv...nning-formula/

fatalsaint 2010-06-30 21:48

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Originally Posted by elris (Post 736190)
Hey, do you think there will be something like Easy Debian on MeeGo? Maybe Easy Fedora?

Easy Debian is Debian and has nothing to do with Maemo at all. It's it's own Debian core that runs in a chroot with Qole's scripts to make it "integrated" with Maemo.

Easy Debian as Easy Debian should certainly be functional on MeeGo with some modifications to the scripts that qole uses.

If you want an Easy Fedora.. that's probably possible too using Fedora's ARM repositories.

But you don't need an "Easy Fedora" just because it's MeeGo and RPM based.. the Easy "XYZ" systems have nothing at all to do with their hosts.

wmarone 2010-06-30 21:51

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Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 736193)
Easy Debian is Debian and has nothing to do with Maemo at all. It's it's own Debian core that runs in a chroot with Qole's scripts to make it "integrated" with Maemo.

Because there are few finer "yo dawg"s than installing an OS inside of your OS :D

Only better one I can think of is calculus.

mrojas 2010-06-30 21:55

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Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 736175)
The other thing is, as wmarone said above, if those vendors release their UI's - or other third parties develop their own UI's like wmarone suggested... those should also be packageable and installable on any MeeGo device you would think. So, even if you don't like the one the vendor gives you it's likely easily replaceable.

(How the whole dual mode/security posture will work into that I don't know..)

Not gonna happen. So, let's say Nokia release a MeeGo device and you buy a LG phone, but don't like the UI, so you take the Nokia UI and put it in your LG phone? I don't think it is going to be fair for the vendor; because it's the precise the UI where they invest cash and want to be different. It may be possible (like the HTC Sense UI being ported to other Android devices); but I don't think it will be supported.

What should happen is that you could replace without major problems, the vendor UI for the generic UI we have just seen.

fatalsaint 2010-06-30 22:01

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Originally Posted by mrojas (Post 736206)
Not gonna happen. So, let's say Nokia release a MeeGo device and you buy a LG phone, but don't like the UI, so you take the Nokia UI and put it in your LG phone? I don't think it is going to be fair for the vendor; because it's the precise the UI where they invest cash and want to be different. It may be possible (like the HTC Sense UI being ported to other Android devices); but I don't think it will be supported.

What should happen is that you could replace without major problems, the vendor UI for the generic UI we have just seen.

Again, I feel it depends if the Vendor releases their UI to the public.

So if Nokia releases a MeeGo device with UI X, and LG releases a device with UI Y, but both Nokia and LG keep their UI's closed - then yes, not going to happen.

If Nokia releases MeeGo device with UI X, and releases UI X out to the open, then LG releases device UI Y... You should be able to replace UI Y with UI X. It's all MeeGo.

Supported or not is different.. will LG Support support you with a Nokia UI? Probably not as they won't know the UI to even help you. But it should be possible to load.

Now, replace LG and Nokia with Open Source developers/names (not companies, just random joe on the internet) - and the same thing should be possible. Say we end up with UI A B and C from the public for MeeGo then both devices from Nokia and LG should be able to load those 3 UI's as well should the user want.

But again.. the restrictions will come into how closed the devices themselves are; and how the security framework will work with MeeGo.

6sicSIX 2010-06-30 22:16

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Is it possible to boot the preview off of a MicroSD?

jsa 2010-06-30 22:19

Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
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Originally Posted by 6sicSIX (Post 736248)
Is it possible to boot the preview off of a MicroSD?

For now that's the recommended way of doing it.. once someone gets an image created, that is.


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