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Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by optimistprime (Post 816213)

i dont believe its an insult, truth is truth.

It's an insult alright. Truth or otherwise. No need for it.

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by quipper8 (Post 815805)

when in doubt, use a car analogy...here goes

Yes. But this particular one is very badly implemented :p
Let me very quickly enlighten the crowd:

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...just as a race car crew may have first pioneered the use of some kind of crazy suspension, but then it finally was adaptable to mass market and better. While the racers were perfecting the suspension it sure was a rough ride sometimes :)

It sure as hell was a rough ride, but the prototype racer still did 250mph! Even back then, with crude undeveloped suspension!
But, now, I'd really be upset if a company would sell me their roadgoing racecar prototype and after a while I would find out it runs out of juice at 120mph like my stupid massmarked citycar just outside the door for a tenth of the price.

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Anyway, Symbian is currently the mass market OS for Nokia and extremely suitable for most of the world apparently.

I don't care which model they consider mass market ready, I just want my prototype car I bought for a fortune to run 250mph. As promised. And I wouldn't even mind to tinker, as long as I would get to 250mph at some point...

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by ME2g (Post 816353)

How old is the N800 (I did not check)?
Do you get all that HW stuff for old Android phones?
I doubt that.
Maybe for "older" Apple phones.
Your stylus problem:
http://www.amazon.de/Stylus-Stift-f%.../dp/B003CKHERW

Some people complain about N900 being somehow
"incomplete", but the hardware is very complete.
Therefore it must be Maemo they aim at.

That is what I meant with
"Where was Android after < 1 year?"

I cannot read that site at all. I tried searching it on Amazon.com without any luck. Is that a Nokia stylus or a third-party made stylus? Either way, good find! (Except that it doesn't help me with my N800, and even if I have an N900, I couldn't buy from that site.)

To your final point--soooooo you mean hardware when you mean "Android?" I'm still very confused. Where was Maemo 1.x (OS2006?) versus the G1 (with Android 1.5, as the first commercially released Google blessed handset came packaged with)? Is that what you mean? You're still not being very clear about what you're comparing.

As far as software OS's go, their stories are very similar. One year after 1.5, near as I could tell, Android was very rapidly building up toward (or had already put out) 1.6 and was already aiming at 2.0. Similarly, one year after the first Maemo (OS2005) was released on the Nokia 770, Maemo very rapidly moved up to OS2006 and aiming for OS2007. Very big upgrades all-around in both camps.

If you want to talk HARDWARE support, that's quite different. Hardware support has ALWAYS been far, far better for HTC's G1, where you can easily walk into a store and get face-to-face support from where you bought the unit as well as, even this far out into the future now, replacement parts of all sorts. I've never had quite the same luck with Nokia in either regard.

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by ME2g (Post 816362)

:D
I am just warming up...

Android:
http://www.h-online.com/security/new...d-1053466.html

That is stuff for consumers?

Also I do not want Google to erase on my phone:
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/it...e-1029188.html

that is what happens when a sistem becomes popular, troyans, viruses etc, but no one is interested enough in making that for a dead os like maemo.

and your second point is about security, i suggest you READ your links before they make you look, well, stupid or something similar.

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by zaapx (Post 816361)

i also think the n900 is "hardware complete" but that does not have anything to do with the fact that it is a dead piece of junk in nokia's eyes.

I just clarified my
"Where was Android after < 1 year?"

Regarding "dead piece":
why do they still sell it?
http://shop.nokia.de/nokia-de/produc...&culture=de-DE

So if the hardware is complete, the item is sold,
Maemo and Meego as OS/SW are evolving as we can see
hereconfs: what remains to complain?
;)

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

@danramos
Are you trying to say that i could get easily support for my htc here in Finland or in europe :) maybe just recently but jeeeezzzz man get real you just live in wrong continent ;) that's all.

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by zaapx (Post 816370)

I know that it is about "security" .
If you like this remote-delete and if you are sure Google won't
misuse that...

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by SirMuttley (Post 816341)

Ahh you clearly don't understand.

It's a hacker's phone. Therefore they aren't flaws, you're just not intelligent enough to use it correctly. Imagine it's like the iPhone4 antenna problem, but rather than holding the phone wrong you're using your brain wrong ;)

I was not aware that any iPhone software could change the
Antenna problem?
;)

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by zaapx (Post 816361)

i also think the n900 is "hardware complete" but that does not have anything to do with the fact that it is a dead piece of junk in nokia's eyes.

Come tell us here how complete the hardware is once you have the microUSB port in your hands :D

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream

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Originally Posted by slender (Post 816374)

@slender
Are you trying to say that i could get easily support for my N800 here in the United States or in North America :) maybe not at ALL but jeeeezzzz man get real you just live in wrong continent ;) that's all.

:rolleyes: