Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like pissing in your pants for warmth
 

Get it? BADA-BING?? Huh? Get it?

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like pissing in your pants for warmth
 

Maybe... maybe not. Who will know now? Maybe there was a reason why he was passed over? Maybe he was groomed to be a little too similar to the last CEO and what they really need now is a change of direction, not more of the same?

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like peeing in your pants for warmth
 

What about supporting a doomed OS on your device? (maemo anyone?)

There is plenty of room for hardware innovation. Hell, I would just about sell my soul for a smartphone that would last a few days on battery.

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like pissing in your pants for warmth
 

Could it be possible (yes it could b) to make Dalvik-VM running as a Meego process, just like we run MS-Windows programs in Linux under Wine?

NITroid, I guess, already has Dalvik-VM source code, so just porting that to run as a Meego process and emulate Android hardware under it.

Well, even lagging Java ME support in Meego is a mistake, I think, from Nokia, so they may not be interested to support Dalvik-programs either.

Nevertheless, if both Java ME and Dalvik programs could be run in Symbian and Meego, users would get lots of applications right from the start.

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like peeing in your pants for warmth
 

That requires innovation on the silicon and battery front. You can get days on battery from the N900, only catch is that you can't use it at all, and that's pretty much true from any high-end device.

Possible? Yes. Useful? Debatable, since you won't have access to the Android Market.

Not that easy, not by a long shot.

Dalvik != Java. And a vendor could always add Java to MeeGo.

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like peeing in your pants for warmth
 

There is just those much needed improvements to Java in Dalvik, which would be usefull (See "So, Why Dalvik?").

Actually I think they (Oracle, LinuxFoundation, JCP, ...?) should make new Java and Java ME versions which would have those; cow type shared memory for classes and separate sandbox for every process. The stack based bytecode should not be changed to register based for portability.

But when in the future we will have many cores in CPUs and more RAM also in mobile phones, Java's advantages compared to old programming languages will come forward more clearly. Just the ability to optimize in the run-time and divide work automatically to multiple cores will make C/C++ obsolete for everything else but for device drivers or for well defined libraries.

People writing applications to Dalvik are doing it in Java. Porting QtJambi to Dalvik and having same applications run in every platform would be amazing. I think Nokia would be mainly interested that people are writing Qt-programs.

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like pissing in your pants for warmth
 

I have no idea, I just read the article. so probably a unit that was for press to be tested.

e: are you suggesting that if google search cannot find something, it simply doesn't exist?

but as per julmaherras point, those glitches are probably there but no-one complains about them because they think those are minor ones.

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like peeing in your pants for warmth
 

Exactly. My point is that area is wide open to innovation. There's nothing preventing hardware manufacturers from spending some serious R&D in this area (and others) to gain a competitive advantage even though they're still using the same OS as their competitors.

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like pissing in your pants for warmth
 

I can't really give you any leads other than a very small bit of experience with apps that follow full rotation. To be honest, it's perhaps one of the nit pickiest of nitpicks that anybody could point to - I've seen rotation glitches on my N900 that have had me damn near toss the ****ing thing across the wall.

And besides... just turn off rotation. It's lockable since iOS 4 as it is on the N900.

Now Android... the sensors on my Captivate (Samsung Galaxy S variant for AT&T) will rotate when I've tilted merely 15 degrees or so sometimes... and I've yet to find a way to globally ignore that.

Stop looking... I doubt anybody can/will produce a link that's worth a damn.

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like pissing in your pants for warmth
 

For something that "works really poorly", with "small glitches that appears from time to time" I'd expect to find at least one link that talks about that from google.

I've also tried to recreate the problem on my end but I could not find any glitches, even minor ones. I would like to recreate the bug so I can observe it myself.