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You have to see things in perspective. Symbian users have always been a small bunch, 10-20 percent of total mobile phones combined. 80-90 percent of all mobile phone users have never had any interest in Symbian and all its quirks. Why should this suddenly change?

What has happened is that a new dumb phone has emerged in the form of iPhone and Android. A smartphone? maybe, but foremost it is a web and app phone.

WP will also be a web and app phone. The N9 is very different, it is more like a traditional Symbian smartphone than an app-phone, yet it certainly is a sleek web phone too. Then we have the new S40 and to some extent Bada, that are web and app phones as well as being traditional dumb phones.

But the lines are blurry. Android is more than just a web and app phone like the iPhone is. Symbian^3 is also a web and app phone in addition to the traditional Symbian smartphone. Even though 80-90 percent of users in US and EU are dumbphone users that would want an iPhone, Android or WP (or S40 or Bada or a traditional dumb phone), there still exist a 10-20 percent that actually want a real smartphone. A real smartphone like Symbian and Windows Mobile where real smartphones in a world dominated by dumbphones.

The N9 fills that void, the N8 fills that void, HP (palm) fills that void somewhat and some others. But not completely. Not like the N95 or communicators did or like good old HTC did. There is still plenty of room for some kick *** high end real smartphone, several of them in fact. The N9 and N8 is by far the best ones, but all Symbian^3 devices does it to some extent. What this means is that Symbian^3 will always have a 10-20% market share because no one else is out there exploiting that market share except the N9.

We will see more Harmattan devices, I am sure. Symbian is doomed though, in the long run. When Nokia and WP and S40 is getting momentum and things start to calm down, more Harmattan/MeeGo devices will come.

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White House Names a New Chief of Information Technology
(won't work unless you have a NYTimes account (for free)...

for reasons of our own, we despise m$
still, it is still considered a successful company that is putting some balsam on Stars & Stripes' hurt pride :D

and for NOKIA to have any chance to get a foot back into that market (unless, of course, AT&T nearly begs them for an exclusive again :confused:) working together w/ m$ seems to be a reasonable way of getting there.

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"I’m very proud of the relationship Nokia has established with Microsoft. We have genuine respect for each other and the relationship is very natural."

ROTFL! Seems like some Nokians like too be raped by Ballmer & CO

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yes but bigger market of Meego/Symbian could have happened if Nokia marketed new symbian and Meego and its apps better but they decided to get raped instead....

Actually I blame the marketing deparment right away. Ofcourse they dont agree and now they probadly get even more money when start marketing WP7. Means the only winner at Nokia is marketing deparmnent and the board and the rest are slave under Microsoft.

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Say what ever you all want to say about Nokia but i tell you all this..... the end of support from Nokia is the beggining of REAL progress for this community !.

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I don't know what numbers you are referring to, but here in Italy, which has a large percent use of mobile devices, the great majority of phones have been s40 and symbian s60.

Maybe you're referring to the US?

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