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st5150 2008-05-14 11:12

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 180841)
Okay guys, the new Flash 9 (reported version 9.0.31) works on OS2008 with the old browser, but you need to copy three files - libflashplayer, libcrypto and libssl (0.9.8 for these two).

Can someone upload these three files from Diablo somewhere ?

qwerty12 2008-05-14 11:53

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
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Originally Posted by maba (Post 181422)
Well, I figured it out too... ;)

Nice :)

The password also works for the useless something folder too...

gnuite 2008-05-14 19:26

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 181452)
Nice :)

The password also works for the useless something folder too...

I figured it out, too (haven't installed diablo just yet), but what is this useless "something" folder about?

By the way, in case you're searching for the username and password, it does take some minor code-reading skills in order to discover them. You're not going to be able to guess it, unless you've got some serious War Games-style hacker equipment going on in your basement. But I'll give you a bigger hint than qwerty12 will allow you: how do SSU updates work for diablo (without entering a password) but not for chinook? Perhaps some diablo-specific code somewhere in the package manager?

Anyone adept enough to figure out the username/password should be adept enough to understand that they're working with a bug-ridden version of Maemo. Good thing I have two N810s - no need to risk sacrificing my tablet browsing capabilities. Of course, now I have to sacrifice time out of my horrendously busy schedule. Argh!

qwerty12 2008-05-14 19:35

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
cool, that makes 3/4 of us that know it.
i realised same thing as you, which put me onto this method making me the 1st person to figure it out :p

I dunno, i can't develop at all but i figured out how to read it.

joepagiii 2008-05-14 19:37

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
nice carrot guys... i can hear the other newbies keyboards clacking away from moms basement...

Benson 2008-05-14 19:42

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
You keep giving more and more hints, Faheem & Gnuite; you do realize you (Faheem) gave it away some time ago? I don't know it yet, but I know (and have for some time, thanks for confirming my guess!) where to get it, if I didn't have the files already. I had thought they were worthless in the main, but was hoping to install a few upgrades (like flash) anyway; thanks to the cache preload trick, I'll have it up this afternoon, I hope...

qwerty12 2008-05-14 19:52

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Cool :)

Meanwhile, I modified the diablo initfs to have fanoush's bootmenu.

i'm now running 2008-17-qwerty12-custom-diablo/initfs

:p

gnuite 2008-05-14 19:52

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 181673)
You keep giving more and more hints, Faheem & Gnuite; you do realize you (Faheem) gave it away some time ago?

Hey, I've only given one hint (at least knowingly), and that was only because none of qwerty12's hints actually struck a chord with me. I just figured that I'd offer an alternative hint for those of us old-timers that don't understand today's teenager lingo. This is the last I'll mention of it, though, don't worry; I'm too old to brag....

qwerty12 2008-05-14 19:55

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

don't understand today's teenager lingo. This is the last I'll mention of it, though, don't worry; I'm too old to brag....
wag1
I'll strap a zut and put it on your ****ing head to mak u understand yeh? :p (joke)

i'm not too old, I was the first one to find the password :p

luca 2008-05-14 20:05

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
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Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 181666)
I figured it out, too (haven't installed diablo just yet), but what is this useless "something" folder about?

testbed for the, er, authentication hack? (no, I didn't check the content of alma.gz)

Quote:

Good thing I have two N810s - no need to risk sacrificing my tablet browsing capabilities. Of course, now I have to sacrifice time out of my horrendously busy schedule. Argh!
Since I don't have a sacrificial machine, if you try could you tell us if it's reasonably (even if not 100% foolproof) to upgrade with a fairly customized chinook? (I mean with extra apps, nothing fancy like peronal menu or other thing that ingrain themselves too deply in the system).

Benson 2008-05-14 20:09

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
OK, time for a new sig, what d'yall think:
___________________________________
I may not be first with anything, but I've got really totally the LONGEST STRING OF RED TEXT in my sig, and it all has something to do with Diablo, even if I can't remember what exactly, but it still makes me look even better than that qwerty-dude with his 4 inches!!! (Quad-boot coming soon....)

qwerty12 2008-05-14 20:11

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
You taking the piss?

18in here, not a tiny 4in :p

gnuite 2008-05-14 20:30

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 181689)
You taking the piss?

18in here, not a tiny 4in :p

If he's "taking the piss," then you're getting a weeeee bit too excited about an internet tablet. ;-)

deadmalc 2008-05-14 21:00

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
At first I wasn't bothered about not having diablo, and was quite proud of myself for not being bothered.
However it seems this is _not_ the case :(

gnuite 2008-05-15 01:07

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luca (Post 181687)
Since I don't have a sacrificial machine, if you try could you tell us if it's reasonably (even if not 100% foolproof) to upgrade with a fairly customized chinook? (I mean with extra apps, nothing fancy like peronal menu or other thing that ingrain themselves too deply in the system).

Okay, I tried upgrading to diablo without a prior clean re-flash. I only had a few things installed, none of the off-limits ones (like modest), and now I'm in a reboot loop.... So, at this point, I don't recommend trying diablo unless you're willing to reflash first (or unless you're dual-booting and willing to debug a reboot loop).

Mythic 2008-05-15 06:33

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 181799)
Okay, I tried upgrading to diablo without a prior clean re-flash. I only had a few things installed, none of the off-limits ones (like modest), and now I'm in a reboot loop.... So, at this point, I don't recommend trying diablo unless you're willing to reflash first (or unless you're dual-booting and willing to debug a reboot loop).


Worked well for me (usual apps like canola fbreader installed + rtcomm beta update) Thanks for the password clue :)

qwerty12 2008-05-15 06:35

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 181799)
Okay, I tried upgrading to diablo without a prior clean re-flash. I only had a few things installed, none of the off-limits ones (like modest), and now I'm in a reboot loop.... So, at this point, I don't recommend trying diablo unless you're willing to reflash first (or unless you're dual-booting and willing to debug a reboot loop).

Make sure lifeguard is disabled ;)

Something like flasher-3.0 --enable-rd-mode & --set-rd-flags no-lifeguard-reset should do it in a linux computer

GeneralAntilles 2008-05-15 06:43

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 181860)
Something like flasher-3.0 --enable-rd-mode & --set-rd-flags no-lifeguard-reset should do it in a linux computer

or simply,

Code:

flasher-3.0 --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset
should do it. ;)

qwerty12 2008-05-15 06:44

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Does that turn on rd-mode in one step or do you not need rd mode enabled but a flag can still be set?

Ah, I see I forgot =

GeneralAntilles 2008-05-15 06:47

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 181862)
Does that turn on rd-mode in one step or do you not need rd mode enabled but a flag can still be set?

Yeah, one-step deal. No need to enabled rd-mode first (and, actually, enabling rd-mode will do other things you may or may not want).

anidel 2008-05-15 07:38

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
So querty12 is our Neo1992, Gnuite is our Keymaker and Benson is the good Morpheus, but then..who's the Architect ?
Quim ? ;)

Aisu 2008-05-15 10:50

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Since Nokia has locked down the fun, maybe I should put the Diablo debs on a file host (I believe someone beat me to it, though)...

Does that sound like a lawsuit or what?

I still can't find the damned source for the application manager in Diablo. :(

GeneralAntilles 2008-05-15 10:55

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aisu (Post 181901)
I still can't find the damned source for the application manager in Diablo. :(

Just check out the svn for hildon-application-manager. . . .

qwerty12 2008-05-15 14:25

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
I think the best way is for a proper developer to provide a deb of Diablo's apt. This would mean the original instructions would still work.

I have the diablo apt, dpkg & hildon-application-manager built but I don't want to provide debs because I can't be arsed to sort out deps.

gnuite 2008-05-15 16:55

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 181860)
Make sure lifeguard is disabled ;)

Something like flasher-3.0 --enable-rd-mode & --set-rd-flags no-lifeguard-reset should do it in a linux computer

Come on, qwerty12, don't you think I know how to follow directions? Of course that was the first thing I did. ;-)

Right now, though, I'm having trouble booting after the apt-get install completes. I can't flash-and-reboot because the image is too big - is that a necessary step? Because if I reboot without it, the device never boots. Do I need to strip it and flash it before I reboot?

Bundyo 2008-05-15 16:59

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
I never flashed the initfs.

GeneralAntilles 2008-05-15 16:59

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 182014)
Right now, though, I'm having trouble booting after the apt-get install completes. I can't flash-and-reboot because the image is too big - is that a necessary step? Because if I reboot without it, the device never boots. Do I need to strip it and flash it before I reboot?

Flashing the kernel and initfs isn't a necessary step. It'll boot just fine without them. I went ahead and deleted the initfs image (per qwerty12's suggestion) and just flashed the kernel after I had booted Diablo. Works fine.

qwerty12 2008-05-15 17:00

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 182014)
Come on, qwerty12, don't you think I know how to follow directions? Of course that was the first thing I did. ;-)

Right now, though, I'm having trouble booting after the apt-get install completes. I can't flash-and-reboot because the image is too big - is that a necessary step? Because if I reboot without it, the device never boots. Do I need to strip it and flash it before I reboot?

man, jamm, I didn't know. I know 2 people with same problem because lifeguard wasn't disabled.

You need to rm the initfs image before running flash-and-reboot. Me, being the hacker I am, decided to strip the initfs image of testserver crap and it fits fine. I then ripped out the wimax crap and installed bootmenu in diablo initfs.

maba 2008-05-15 17:02

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Mine wouldn't boot either, so I flashed chinook's latest kernel and initfs back with the flasher and voila! The device boots and I'm in diablo.

But it sure would be great to run diablo's kernel and initfs...

ioan 2008-05-15 17:14

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
This thread is tooooooo long and ain't got no time to read it all. Pleaseeee somebody write a step by step on how to install Diablo on a N800. If you are afraid to use your own user, use this one:
just_to_help
aaa123

gnuite 2008-05-15 17:14

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 182017)
You need to rm the initfs image before running flash-and-reboot. Me, being the hacker I am, decided to strip the initfs image of testserver crap and it fits fine. I then ripped out the wimax crap and installed bootmenu in diablo initfs.

Is there a way to strip it on the device itself, or does it have to be done on a desktop?

qwerty12 2008-05-15 17:18

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
gnuite, it has to be done on desktop.
I used mtd2ram method (takes a LOT of ram) to mount image. mtd2block method may work though.

gnuite 2008-05-15 17:20

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 182016)
Flashing the kernel and initfs isn't a necessary step. It'll boot just fine without them. I went ahead and deleted the initfs image (per qwerty12's suggestion) and just flashed the kernel after I had booted Diablo. Works fine.

Maybe I'm having problems because I'm trying this on an N810, but I tried deleting the initfs and running flash-and-reboot, and I still can't get Diablo to boot - same as if I don't run flash-and-reboot at all. The NOKIA logo appears with the little R&D-mode icon below it, but none of the R&D info (initfs version, etc.) appears, and after 30 seconds the screen just goes dark.

I'll try with a stripped Diablo initfs later tonight, I guess.

qwerty12 2008-05-15 17:24

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 182025)
Maybe I'm having problems because I'm trying this on an N810, but I tried deleting the initfs and running flash-and-reboot, and I still can't get Diablo to boot - same as if I don't run flash-and-reboot at all. The NOKIA logo appears with the little R&D-mode icon below it, but none of the R&D info (initfs version, etc.) appears, and after 30 seconds the screen just goes dark.

I'll try with a stripped Diablo initfs later tonight, I guess.

That does look like an initfs problem. (the RD mode info is shown by initfs, not rootfs). Incidentally, Nokia logo and RD mode logo and green progress bar is provided by NOLO.

PM me with email or favourite hosting site and I'll email my initfs

(original diablo initfs with testserver removed (useless according to fanoush and I know what he means ;)) or diablo initfs with bootmenu added manually with ssh (no telnet). If you want to add bootmenu.conf, you have to edit initfs image anyway :/)

mrlanrat 2008-05-15 18:02

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ioan (Post 182021)
This thread is tooooooo long and ain't got no time to read it all. Pleaseeee somebody write a step by step on how to install Diablo on a N800. If you are afraid to use your own user, use this one:
just_to_help
aaa123

That would take all the fun out of it! ;)

I may post something that has a lot of hints on my website once I get it working.

Im not sure how leagal it is for us to just tell you directly how to do it.

joepagiii 2008-05-15 18:05

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
c'mon dangle the carrot some more

gnuite 2008-05-15 18:05

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrlanrat (Post 182044)
That would take all the fun out of it! ;)

I may post something that has a lot of hints on my website once I get it working.

Im not sure how leagal it is for us to just tell you directly how to do it.

I'm not a lawyer, but it's probably fine to aggregate all of the steps needed to get the update working, so long as you don't reveal the username and password required to get the repository working.

I'd do it myself if I was certain that I knew all the steps. I don't have a working Diablo quite yet, though. :)

qwerty12 2008-05-15 18:10

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Me and mrlanrat had a nice game on irc this morning :p :)

mrlanrat 2008-05-15 18:15

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 182048)
Me and mrlanrat had a nice game on irc this morning :p :)

For me it was very late at night.
Thanks qwerty12!

Benson 2008-05-15 18:19

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 182024)
gnuite, it has to be done on desktop.
I used mtd2ram method (takes a LOT of ram) to mount image. mtd2block method may work though.

I'd think using the tools from Fanoush's initfs_flasher would work fine...

I'd copy initfs_flash, and make a modded version that doesn't start with the current initfs, but with the image, and then does the same stuff; while it's stopped waiting for input, you can muck around in the initrd directory, and then it'll jffs2 it back up and flash it.

Am I missing something? Is the initrd in a different format not readily extractable to a raw fs image?


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