Re: Help Please
 

I'm not sure I understand all of your questions. However, I dl install-tools-N810e.deb to internal memory, which I also dl to my PC. File size is same for both, which is 3,744. So, I have the correct file, right?

System info. Do you mean version? If so, it's 4.2008.30-2.

I don't know what you mean by external.txt and internal.txt. Where are those files located?

Re: Help Please
 

Depends on which version you are using. One version came with fixed partition, that just go straight, no int.txt or ext.txt. The other one allows one to customize the partition, and you need int.txt or ext.txt.

Coming............


bun

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

OK, you now own me 2 cookies, pls send thru fed express :rolleyes:
I took out both SD cards in my N800 (I do not like to take cards in and out, very very reluctant; that is why card die, hardware failure etc)
and put a 2G card into the internal slot and then follow the step to step guide I just posted a few threads up, I even dl the install-tools.ad.tgz and went thru the whole 9 yard - start from scratch, and check to make sure,

only 1 card
swap file is unchecked
only INTERNAL.txt is in (EXTERNAL.txt deleted)
9.8 min later, reboot with bootmenu

succeed.

This THROWS away, all the doubt about,
diablo update
recent SSU update.....

I used PB's 5/29/08 .tgz and worked.


N800/4.2008.30-2

bun

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

Bun.
Happy to send the cookies. :)
But I have an N810 with no internal card slot; only an external card slot from which I removed the card, as you suggested -- no cards in any slots. I unchecked the virtual memory, as you suggested. But, I used the file install-tools-N810e.deb. Is that the wrong file?

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

jhford - yes.. that is to go to the external card on the n810.. since you took the external card out - it's trying to clone to something that doesn't exist.

the n810 has 2 SD cards.. you just only know of one.,. there is an internal card that is always there that is 2GB... so to install to that one you will download the install tools file for the n800 or n810 internal from the OP.

If you want to install to the EXTERNAL sd card on an n810 then you would use the n810 external SD card link.

Also.. when troubleshooting these kinds of install problems it is best to clear your application manager logs in Tools->Logs and then show us the output from trying to run the installation.

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

Well, I stand CORRECTED. That is why I am asking jhford what do you want to do. I thought jhford wants to install to internal SD.....
anyway, sorry, I gave the wrong instructions. Now you can keep your two cookies.... :( and thanks for fatalsaint pointed out the OBVIOUS.

jhford, you set me up :( , I re read the last 10 posts, you never say what you want to do, I guess if you are using N810e, I should have guessed it....... well, bun is giving instruction to have people install in a a card slot that has no card.......so embarrassing, maybe I should delete all these posts and stand in a corner and cry.

bun

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

Thank you and please forgive my stupidity. I have cleared my log files.
Didn't I read somewhere on this forum that your setup is that you have cloned to internal memory? Don't you think that's what I should do? If so, don't I download install-tools.deb to internal memory and run it from there using Application Manager > Install from file? Also, don't I uncheck virtual memory swap in control panel? And do I remove the external 8GB card, or not?

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

You will download install-tools.deb to the FLASH.. not the internal memory/MMC because it will need to USE the internal memory to write the data to.. it has to reformat the internal memory and remount it meaning if you try and install from it you will end up with a failure.

The best thing is to install the install-tools.deb to you default Documents directory while in Flash.. make sure the external card is NOT IN the n810.. then install the install-tools.. during the process you may see some Memory card warnings and stuff while the partitions are done.. and then it copies/clones your flash to your internal memory.

Then you can reboot and boot into the internal MMC... and put in your external Card.

And yes.. look in my sig.. I have Diablo in Flash, cloned to internal 2GB MMC, and the full Debian Deblet installed on my external MMC.

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

I had problems getting the SSU update to install with dual boot installed on the internal SD. I reflashed to the pre-SSU update and successfully installed the SSU update. Now installing install-tools.deb does not show a boot menu. Help..........

thaibill

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

If it's already cloned and flash.. uninstall install-tools and install bootmenu.deb .. that will recreate your boot menu and let you boot to your install SD and you can update the new SSU there.

Read my post in the Diablo Update thread.. I had no problems loading the SSU to the internal Diablo, rebooted (lost the boot menu and so went to flash), installed the SSU on the flash, rebooted, and then installed Bootmenu and got back into internal SD.. no data loss and both diablo's were updated.

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

I tried what I said and it failed again. Here's my log file.

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

Its having trouble unmounting your internal card because it is in use.. that usually means the install-tools.deb is installed to the internal card; not on the flash.

It could also mean you have a terminal, or any application open that is accessing something on the internal card.

Make sure the .deb is on flash; and if necessary - run the following command as root:

ETA: Except in this circumstance i wouldnt ever use the -l option unless u know what u are doing...

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

Excellent instructions. I did everything but got a "memory card corrupted" error. Now what?

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

actually thats normal... did the install fail? usually just wait and give it time and it'll say Install successful..

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

If your clone is working, may be it is easier to just re-make the bootmenu, step by step here, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=22771.

bun

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

You must be a magician. I rebooted, retried & it was successful. Then I reinstalled the external card & rebooted. But shouldn't I have a bootmenu? It merely booted and looks exactly the same as before. Is there something else I didn't do? MMC2 is empty.

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

Thanks, Bun. I found the fix to the problem. Control Panel reported my 810's internal card had only 119-mb. Formatting it via File Manager recovered its 2-gb. I also discovered Application Catalog reported the install .deb as being installed even though it failed. Uninstalling it and re-running the install .deb was successful. All's well.

thaibill

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

After installing Install-tools, and having everything work correctly, I have deleted the deb and uninstalled it from app manager (to save space). Is it safe to delete the /root/install-tools directory? I'm not sure if this is just used for installation, but there are 5 megs of files in there.

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

I have a sd of 2Gb and install the Install-tools and the Formati iso everything but when Fuye to see the space in the memory of dispocitivo designed only 294Mb and I'm booting from the SD is assumed that you should have at least 1.3Gb in order to install the KDE thing that I do not have

the dispocitivo was recently updated with the devil and not had applications installed

I can not HACR for this to happen

please help

I appreciate any collaboration



tengo una sd de 2Gb e instale el Install-tools el formatio y iso todo pero cuando fuy a ver el espacio en la memoria del dispocitivo dise que solo tengo 294Mb y la estoy arrancando desde la SD se supone que deberia tener por lo menos 1.3Gb para poder intalar el KDE cosa que no tengo

el dispocitivo estaba recien actualizado con diablo y no tenia aplicaciones instaladas

que puedo hacre para que esto no pase

ayuda por favor

agradesco cualquier colaboracion

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

Which install tool are you using?
Some step by step guide over here maybe helpful, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=22155

bun

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

Actually I wonder if it's not the FAT partition he/she is looking at ... that would be around that size if you save a few deb's and stuff to it ... The FAT partition is what the File Manager would show for free space..

@fesato : Have you tried running 'df -h' in a command line (xterm) and looked at the line labeled "/" .. for a total size summary?

Tiene usted intentado ejecutar ' df - h' en una línea de comando (xterm) y mirado la línea etiquetó el " /" . ¿para un resumen del tamaño total?

(I used Yahoo Babelfish.. my spanish is a little hazy.. but that still doesn't quite look right to me even lol.)

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

I did this via the advanced install tools. But, I wonder about the Linus voice. I get it on the flash, but not the boot off SD. Does anyone else have that issue? (I'm just curious about why it wouldn't transfer over when the OS was cloned).

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

IIRC the linux voice plays after the Flash runs a full FSCK on the MMC cards.. when booting FROM mmc it never runs that check.. and thus - never plays the voice..

It also could have been installed after the cloning process was over?

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

All ok, thanks. So if it runs a full FSCK on the MMC cards does that mean I don't have to manually run the fsck commands whenever I'm in flash? (I do it once in a while just in case).

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

Correct.. as long as you hear the Great Linus you should have gotten an FSCK on your card. Although I'm not sure if the script handles errors.. so I can't be positive you got a SUCCESSFUL fsck :).. just that one was done.. heh.

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

yes it can be reomved without issue

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

You can look at the status of the fsck's in /tmp/fsck.txt

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

Hi, thanks for a great app. It worked perfect (install, reboot, install, success). Everything works perfect and all sizes are as expected.

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

Install fresh diablo, upload to latest, clone, linux is pronounced linux, but no boot menu, no boot from sd.

Halp?

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

Just went through the process again, worked perfectly this time.

Now to install Command and Conquer...

Thanks pb.

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

I have a problem now, I connected via USB to my PC and got an error on the tablet "Unable to connect via USB. Memory card in use: Internal memory card". In my PC I can access the external SD, but not the FAT partition on my internal SD. What should I do?

ps: I had no applications open.

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

The purpose of this deb is "Boot from SD made EASY!!"
When I did it pre Diablo it worked and was easy.
Now, after a new install of Diablo and the SSU, plus some of the apps, the install does not give me a boot menu. It does repartition my internal and leave me with a 120mb partition.
Building the boot menu looks about as easy as rebuilding with the other pb tool and selecting my partitions etc. or reflashing entirely.

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

Sometimes you need to reset the default boot option manually, as root inside xterm run this, then reboot.

chroot /mnt/initfs cal-tool --set-root-device ask:mmc2


mmc2 is partition 2 on internal
mmc3 is partition 3 on internal

mmc12 is partition 2 on external
mmc13 is partition 3 on external

You can also set the default to flash

chroot /mnt/initfs cal-tool --set-root-device ask:flash


My install-tools does not do this part of the cloning process. Sometimes it works and sometime you need to run the cal-tool

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

After 5 attempts and no boot menu I gave up an went to reflash Diablo.
It would not reflash and gave me a USB cable error.
When I unplugged the USB cable the boot menu showed up and I've been able to reboot and get the boot menu.

I hope I've not lost the flash capability but I've wasted 4 hours on it so far.

Not easy anymore.

Now I need to order the 8Gb external card.

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

As I posted it seemed to fix itself, your method looks a lot simpler than the link bun posted.

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

I have used the other cloning method now (the one that lets you choose the partition sizes) and I'm still having the same problem. I have to reboot from flash to copy stuff to the fat partition, and the reboot from SD.
Is there some command to unmount the FAT? how to use it?
thanks

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

should I try unmounting the FAT partition manually? I think that is "umount /media/mmc2" (maybe as root?). But if that works, how do I mount it again after I finish? (without rebooting, that's what I'm trying to avoid).
Is no one else having this problem?

edit: Is "mount vfat /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/mmc2" the command to mount it again?

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

nope, that didn't work...

Nobody has any suggestions? This is the only thing that makes me turn off the N800 :(

Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 

mount -t vfat /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/mmc2