Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

I have winxp and using the n900 i cant connect.

cant connect from n900 to pc nor the other way around.

i removed the n900 listed in the bluetooth places and searched again for devices and it did find a n900 phone as mouse pointer/keyboard but it wont connect.

How to make this work?

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

dont know how but finally got it working.

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

Let me start by saying this is a great app. I love not having to get out of bed to find the mouse when watching movies on my PC :-)

Could I ask that when you close this app down that BlueMaemo turns off you Bluetooth if it turned it on?

I always assume it does this then release a few hours later my BT is still on.

Thanks
Chris

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

Thanks VDVsx for this software!
I was just wondering before installing, is bluemaemo and all the efl libs optified? :-)

cheers!

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

BlueMaemo restores the state that the BT adapter has when you start the app, i.e if BT is on nothing happens, if is off then BlueMaemo turn it off again when you exit.

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

BlueMaemo is, the efl libs no.

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

Someone found a workaround for the hardware keyboard bug in canola, same bug affecting BlueMaemo: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6511#c4

Works with Pr1.1, not sure if also works with the current public firmware, but should work :)

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

bluemaemo wont start on my n900, does anyone else have this problem or have any idea how to fix it

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

Maybe this bug is affecting you: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7510

Worksforme: Remove the pairing in booth devices and rename the BT device using the apostrophe in the name (e.g. User laptop)

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

Got it working with my N900 and my Asus W90 laptop.

Took 20 minutes of trial & error to get the devices to connect together properly.

Firstly I am using a new instlal of Windows 7 x64 so I have the stock windows bluetooth drivers and they suck. Upon first pairing it said it didnt have half the drivers it needed and directed me to broadcoms site to get the drivers. Broadcom bluetooth drivers also suck.

However after getting the drivers I could pair without driver errors, thing is using the "recive" connection mod it never got past that so I had to establish the connection from the N900 to the laptop.

It worked but it paired as an A2DP device or something instead of a HID device so I could use my laptop speakers to listen to music from the N900 and take calls.

I had too remove the device and try again and it paired as the HID keyboard/mouse device and it seems to work flawlessly.

I used to carry a nintendo wimmote with me to do cool tricks on my laptop and presentations, today I have a meeting and plan to use the N900 and bluemamemo instead, the wiimote has all the motion sensors and accelerometers allowing for nifty coding like tilt the controller to raise volume, cant do that on the N900 but you could use the accelerometer to add "flick" to the media controls as a extra bind, so you can "flick" the N900 to have a function (probably change to a random track is what I would use)

I think I read the hardware keyboard is supposed to work? but it didnt for me I had to use the on screen keyboard, not a big deal right now still works great without it, but when it is working that will be even better. You can use mouse mode and type on the hardware keyboard to speed things up a bit. note: I did try to use the hardware keyboard on keyboard mode not just mouse mode.

To anybody having problems, as a former wiimote hacker guy i can tell you the Toshiba or the Bluesoleil bluetooth stacks are the two to use they work so much better than the broadcom/microsoft stuff.

I never even got the wiimote to work correctly under broadcom, so the fact I got the bluemaemo working is a plus.

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awesome thank you. such a random bug. genius.

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Im not sure what I have to do to get it working I have installed the app it recognises my PS3 and the PS3 adds N900 to trusted devices but when I try to use the keyboard or any function it does not respond, what is it I have done incorrect?

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

Thanks for testing
There's a bug in one of the libraries used by BlueMaemo that prevents the HW keyboard from working, but there's a simple workaround:

1- In BlueMaemo main menu type something in the hw keyboard, the contacts app will show up, dismiss it.
2- Press the power button and dismiss it tapping in the screen in the empty space.
3- Type something again in the hw keyboard :), the keyboard should work across the different profiles.

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

I'll give it a shot later and let you know if I have any problems.

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Did you followed these instructions: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluemaemo#Playstation_3 ?

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wanted to try to show it off at work today and use the hardware keyboard but after trying for like 35 minutes could not get a connection today with the widdcom bluetooth in Win 7.

I eventually booted over into Vista (dual boot laptop) where I have the bluesoleil bluetooth stack and expected it to be easy but it still took about 20 minutes of varies tinkering to get it to work.

Roughly what I did was put bluemaemo in discover mode, this puts the device in HID mode and searched for the device and added it, and then also searched for all its features so that it added HID device as one of them.

Even after pairing the waiting for connection screen never goes away for me. If I try to connect to the computer with bluemaemo making the connection it will connect but always disconnect shortly after, seems its not connecting in the right mode as duing that short time none of the features work.

I ended up unpairing and establishing the connection to the n900 by manually selecting HID device connect from bluesoleil, the computer will pair but not the N900, then I select reconnect with the N900 and it seemed to work.

You will know you have the right pairing as the N900 icon on bluesoleil will be a game joystick and will have the data link animation.

After getting that far I was out of time to play so didnt get a chance to try out the work around for the hardware keyboard.

One thing to note also is with bluesoleil I never got the pin number/pair dialog like I did with the microsoft/widcomm drivers.

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

Ouch, I never used it with Win 7, but with Vista/XP it works well, never had any problem, of course if you pair the device without the HID profile or without HID permissions, the system will disconnect you, its a matter of security. And remember you only need to pair it once, after that you should use the reconnect function.
There's nothing I can do to improve this situation, I guess :(

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

Ok more testing.

I downloaded the newest version of bluesoleil from the homesite, just got the free trial of it.

Put bluemaemo in receive connection mode, searched the device on the laptop and then choose to connect as a HID device, almost instantly the connection was made and bleumaemo went to the main menu.

Works 100% perfectly and so easy with the new version of bluesoleil, shame its not a free bluetooth stack though, but the trial works good for testing.

So tested the hardware keyboard work around, it worked just fine, I had to do it once or twice before it worked but it does work!

I think I found one bug though, multimedia controls I can not get the next track and previous track keys to work.

I was testing with winamp and I enabled global hotkeys, no matter what keyboard key I set winamp to use when I set that key in bluemaemo it did not work.

Also every time I went to set a new key it would just have that "prior" or "next" key listed. I guess thats the generic multimedia keys command but I could not find how to set it back to that as pressing back would leave the keyboard command on there.

My guess is that its still sending the multimedia command even after binding a key? as pressing the keyboard key I set on the actual keyboard worked just fine but the softkey on the media remote did not.

Winamp lets you enable both global hotkeys and generic multimedia controls separately, so going to go test now with the generic commands enable to see if it works and test that theory.

Edit: I see what is happening now, some of the keys are not updating when I set them, it shows the new value in the settings menu in bluemaemo but it still sends the old setting key command.

If I go back to set the key it shows the old bind the one its using, but setting it over and over it still wont stick. Seems rebooting the program causes it to refresh but to the old settings not the new ones, so its a bit difficult right now to get all the keys working.

Maybe we can add a master reset to default somewhere? I still dont see how to add the original media keyboard commands back as that will be my best option probably.

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

It's a known bug: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7534
Already fixed in the SVN version, I'll release a new package with all bug fixes in the next couple of days.

Thanks again.

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

Great I look forward to it, I love this program.

How do I search the bug database or submit one if I am testing a program?

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

Full list of open bugs & enhancement.

Submit bugs at: https://bugs.maemo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=BlueMaemo

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

New version available (0.3.10), Changelog:

* Accelerometer test code (see link below)
* Fix bug 7534 - Can not save settings on BlueMaemo Media controler
* Fix bug 7501 - PS3 Name/address doesn't appear in the "connected to" screen
* Fix bug 7510 - Wrong behavior when pairing a device with a apostrophe (') in the name
* Remove reconnect confirmation
* PS3 controller UI

Video: BlueMaemo – playing games with the accelerometer

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

great app - love the mouse and keyboard, BUT...

in the keyboard (and key-settings for the buttons of the other apps) there are imho two important keys missing:

1. windows-key
2. "Fn"-key

is it possible to add these two keys? would appreciate it! :)

edit:
played with your gamepad acc-controls and i have two requests:

1. dead-zone.
mouse is always on the move... so is it possible to generate a acc-zone, where the mouse stands still? in every direction +/- 5 degrees or something?
2. speed-zones.
the more you lean the phone in one direction the faster the mouse will move?

example:
in every direction 0° - 50° and following table:
0 - 5: no movement. 5 - 20 slow. 20 - 35 middle. 35 - 50 fast.

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

The windows key is already there, but there's no way to assign it via the UI, but you can edit /etc/bluemaemo/bluemaemo.conf and assign "win" to the key that you wish(look at the PS3 confs).

Fn-key ? for what you need it ?

The air mouse is only using tilt at the moment, is far from the best way to control it, but your requests are planned, I've more or less that(dead zone and speed increase) in other app for other system.
Btw, I can easily make the mouse stand still :)

Thanks for testing

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

thank you for pointing out this config-file :)
i will try to edit it tomorrow.

the Fn-key is used on my laptop for various functions. for example Fn + F1 to lock my pc or Fn + F9/10/11/12 to control my audioplayer.
(ok, i could remap these shortcuts to something like Ctrl + P/S/F/B, but the key is especially for these functions, so why don't use it? ;D)

ah ok, that sounds great!
i can make it stand still too... when i deactivate the "2"-button, but that's a rather dirty solution *laugh*

ehm... i wouldn't call it testing... it's playing around with some fun-stuff... so i have to thank you for this nice app ;)

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

the f'n key is a hardware key specific to the hardware you are using as far as I know from working with key mapping programs in the past, there is no way to copy it or emulate it.

thanks for the update to the program I will download the new version and test it for you soon. glad to see one of the bugs effecting me is fixed (media remote save) cant wait to see the hardware keyboard working out of the box, the work around seems to be very picky for me only had it working once so far.

Seeing that you have accelerometer working for game mode, shake to shuffle is probably not far away in media remote mode :D (would be funny if somebody binds that function to a key and uses it in there car so every big bump causes the track to change)

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

Correct.

@b666m- The Fn keys are tricky, but is possible to add global multimedia keys, that are more or less a standard, that will fulfill one the use cases that you pointed out.

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

do you mean something like "XF86AudioPlay" and so on? if yes that would be very cool.

one more thing i realized is that i'm missing the ALT and CTRL key on the keyboard when i'm going to the ".?123" and "#+=" layout.
i know, that it's possible to activate ALT and CRTL in the "ABC" layout and then go to the other layouts to make a combination there, but if you have to make a few combos in row like ALT + CTRL + RIGHT it's too much clicking.

i ask that because i'm running ubuntu with compiz fusion on my laptop and there are some shortcuts at ALT + CTRL, WIN + CTRL and WIN + ALT as well as these together with SHIFT.

unfortunately it's impossible to combine SHIFT with ALT/WIN/CTRL on the keyboard. is there any way to change this behaviour?

thanks in advance! :)

EDIT:
the scrollbar in the keyboard-window is already mentioned in your bug/feature-list.
so it would be usefull (for me ^^) to have the SHIFT/CTRL/ALT/WIN keys in the mouse-window too. (compiz fusion has also some button-mouse-combination to control it)

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

Okay.. so far I've tried to get my N900 and one of my two PC-machines to work with BlueMaemo and I cannot make it work. BlueMaemo won't just connect to PC as keyboard & mouse.

After I've paired the devices within the BlueMaemo and see how the device and it's services looks like in Windows I get this list (see the attachment). As you can see the drivers for keyboard, mouce etc isn't checked and if I check it and hit apply it unchecks itself after few seconds.

Anyone has any ideas?

Edit: my phone & BlueMaemo works just fine with Mac Pro on my studio, but I'd prefer to make it work with my home PC so I could remote control movies, tv etc while sitting on the coach ;) There's not much use for remote control when running only ProTools :-D

Edit #2: forum seems to scale the image so small it's unreadable, so here's the image in larger format (click):
http://i1.aijaa.com/t/00101/5560280.t.png

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

i will try bluemaemo tonight when i am at home to test a trick how it could work with windows 7... friend of me had successfully connected his n900 with his pc with this trick... (disabling the wrong entrys in the device manager)

but i have one question left. is it possible to use the arrow keys of the pc remotely?

i am using a symbian smartphone with the app "controlfreak" from mtvoid (mtvoid.com) to remotecontrol my pc and i often use the arrow keys while watching a movie with winamp and with the arrow keys i can easily move inside the movie and make it louder...

about controlfreak: controlfreak is a "must have" app for me, i have brought my old smartphone 2 times, just to use this app... it can STREAM YOUR DESKTOP TO THE PHONE (works great with movies too), let you zoom in and out easily and let you move your mouse or use the arrow keys and special functions of some media player too...

especially the desktopstream is something i would love. it should be like vnc, but over bluetooth ;) (already opened an enhancment report (#8061) at bugzilla for that ;)

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

some postings above is the solution:

in this config file you can use nearly every pc key and link it to a button at bluemaemo.

BUT: you don't need to edit the config file at all. most of the keys you can change in bluemaemo. in each application there is a button named "Settings" where you can allocate the keys. :)

(the config file is only needed if the key or combination isn't available/possible in the settings-window)

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

VDVsx, is BlueMaemo and its dependencies optified?

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

Win 7 seems to have some issues with the BT HID profile that BlueMaemo uses, I can't help since I don't have a Win 7 machine, but some users already found the 'perfect setup', maybe they can share it :)

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

You can assign the arrow keys to any button, at the moment they are a bit hidden in the third screen of the keyboard but they are there :)

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

BlueMaemo is, the deps aren't (I'm not the maintainer).

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

yeah have it working with both of my Win 7 x64 machines.

My laptop I got it pared only one time with the stock bluetooth drivers from MS, to make it work easy I had to change my drivers to Bluesoleil and now I can pair it every time without fail. Even the 2MB data limit trial is good enough for using remote functions for a long time (2mb limit resets every time you start the program)

On my desktop I have a nice usb bluetooth receiver that uses the Toshiba BT stack, I downloaded the newest drivers for it but it seems to not be working at all... not just with my N900 but my other stuff too, so some kind of issue there but I still got it to connect today with stock MS drivers by doing this:

First I paired the N900 and the computer not in BlueMaemo just normally, under the "my bluetooth devices" you will see the N900 there and it will look like a phone.

Then start up Bluemaemo and use the option to receive a connection. You will then suddenly see the already paired N900 change from a phone icon into a keyboard one, because its now a HID device.

So instead of trying to pair again, all I did was right click the keyboard icon select properties and then used the "view avilible services" tab. You should see the HID device service there unchecked, by checking it, almost right away I heard the "new hardware" beeps and it was connected and working without having to pair it again and bluemaemo was on the main screen ready to use.

So you can probably get it working with any setup but if you have some extra $$$ the most problem free solution is probably bluesoleil I think its like $20 for a year.

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

This didn't work for me. As soon as I tick the HID-devices under services-tab and hit ok it installs the hid-drivers and then disconnects the hid-drivers automaticly (ie. the hid-service is unticked when I open the services-tab again).

BlueSoleil-drivers doesn't seem to work in x64 Win7 with my bt-dongle, it just says "no hardware" :-/

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

There is a VERY high chance it will work with some modifications. When bluesoleil was rather new its list of supported devices was smaller and both of my laptops were not supported, however in both cases I got it to work by manually editing the .inf file for the installer to include the codes for my bluetooth device.

Chances are you can do the same and have it work for you.

I write a mini guide on this long ago for my EEE 1000H you should be able to follow it and see how to apply it for your device:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=303559

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

Well, I actually already tried to edit the .inf -files manually but I still cannot force Windows to install the drivers for the dongle.

Forcing driver install was successfully with another X86 Win7 -machine, but BlueMaemo didn't work with that neither. Device got disconnected after one or two seconds I had paired it with the computer.

Maybe I should try to find another BT-dongle (different chip inside) for my computer?

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 

If you willing you can try a different one, not sure where your problem lies though so that may not be the solution.