Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

I think you cannot PM until you have a few more posts and/or time on the forums.

I am not with Rogers anymore, and last person I helped setting up goam was unsuccessful.

WIND all the way ;)

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

ah... how are the plans for wind? cause I used to pay $32 a month for my n95, and everything worked. I can browse the web, use gps, etc etc.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

The Wind data plan is a work in progress. $35 per month no cap, but they will throttle you after 5 Gb. Some port blocking going on. In all, its been a good experience. Working through some of the data issues right now with them.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

Fido does not offer 3G connectivity for the AWS frequencies that the N900 requires; you'll be using EDGE if you're with them. Doesn't anyone remember that Videotron and Wind are the AWS carriers in Canada?

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

According to Nokia, via Wind Mobile, the N900 will not be offered in Canada. Reports are that US models in Canada have no warranty.
http://www.windmobile.ca/community/W...kia-5230/?cp=3

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

Who would like to buy an n900? original box, no scratches, screen protector, original batt / cables etc. Pm me an offer if you're interested!

Thanks.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

US models in Canada DO have a warranty but they must be shipped to the US service depot and you have to pay for shipping BOTH ways. I bought my N97 from the US and it is such a POS it had to be sent in for repairs twice under warranty and I only had to pay shipping. To get an RMA you have to call Nokia USA.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

What about if I buy one via newegg.ca? If it breaks, would I have to send it to the states?

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

You sure would. You'd have to setup an intermediary location in the US though.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

My friend bought one from newegg a month ago. It did break, he could send it to newegg because it was 29 days exactly. Yes you ship to USA, but it's no trouble. They sent a new one back to him. Great service.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

Cool - I usually don't worry about electronics breaking, at least not after a month. If they're defective, you'll probably know sooner than that. But I worry about the N900 USB problem. Do new units still suffer from this defect? I couldn't tell from skimming the threads.

I guess for extra insurance, there's always newegg's $50 extended warranty option too....

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

to be completely honest, I've had mine since the end of January, also from newegg, and haven't had any hardware issues at all with it.

the only software problems it did have, were since patched up.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

Hey Torontonians! Make sure you go to the Mobile Geeks meetup tonight! See this thread for more details.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

qole, new data plans announced today may tickle your fancy. 500 MB for $20. SIP/Skype work as well. SIP got fixed last week finally.

In any case, cheaper than fido, and faster too! YVR launches soon I imagine, but the wind network in YVR is working right now.

http://www.windmobile.ca/community/W...etwork-update/

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

Oooh, $20 data... consider my fancy to be tickled! Same price but at 3G instead of 2.5G...

But here at UBC, only Rogers/Fido is showing on my "choose network" dialogue on the N900. No Wind yet here... I'll check at home...

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

Hi All,
I am in Edmonton and was wondering if N900 was available here. First I checked with Fido (have an existing connection) and they said that N900 is officially NOT YET HERE !! The people who have got it have the European version which is not supported by Fido. So I checked with Nokia Canada support via phone, and they confirmed that N900 is officially NOT there in Canada. If you go to Nokia.ca, you will find that N900 is NOT part of the latest models available here.

So how could you guys get a hold of it? Is it the European version or the north american one?

Thanks,
RRJ.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

There is only one version, which supports quadband gsm and hspa on 1700/2100. it will work on Fido, but will be on EDGE. Alternatively, you can use Windmobile, and be on 3G. For places to buy it from, google around, but I think newegg.ca and expansys.ca carry it.

Read this thread as well, its not long by Talk standards, and most of your questions will be answered.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

As someone who works for Rogers, and has an N900, i can pretty much back up the opinions expressed about it working on Rogers.

I seriously wish they would support more bands of 3G, and since each of the 3 new competitors (DAVE, Public Wireless and WIND) support it, I would hope it pushes Rogers. The data speed on EDGE is merely ok at best.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

Rogers is pure evil, I'm counting days when my contract expires :)

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Public using CDMA?

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

I'm in Montreal, using Rogers, and I have an N900 - it works fine, but at EDGE speeds... I have wifi most places, and I can live with EDGE when I'm not on wifi... 3G would be nice, but it hasn't annoyed me much not to have it.

I bought the n900 from newegg.ca - back in January.

I'd highly recommend getting one!!!

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

first post !

gonna visit Ottawa for 2 months during the summer ( June and July ) and looking into their providers and Wind Mobile is there ! 3G speed :D

I was wondering if 500 MB is enough for like 10-15 of Skype per day, and very low web browsing since i'm gonna be on WiFi anyways ! Any suggestions guys ?

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

i got personal items insurance from state farm for about $40 per year! seems good enough and it also covers theft and loss.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

I need to know something important for me. I am in Montreal, and I have just finished my 3 year contract with Rogers, and am finally a free man :)
With the N900 in hand, I want to know if there is anyone does offers, or plans to offer the necessary N900 3G bands? I don't know much about frequencies and such, but I just heard that Videotron offers wireless solution, and from their website, they seem to support GSM 850 and 1900 MHz. I am asking because I would like to purchase the Sony X10 for my girl, since Rogers is selling it at 150$ and I don't mind renewing my contract if there's nobody that plans on having the N900 3G bands.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

I know Windmobile, Public Mobile and Mobilicity plans to support AWS band. I do not know when they will be in Montreal though...

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

Thanks for the quick response. Although, correct me if I'm wrong, but it was my understanding that:
*Wind Mobile would never be in Quebec because Videotron bought this spectrum, yet Videotron doesn't seem to offer the necessary 3g band, so that leaves Wind out.
*Public Mobile, from their website: "Only Public Mobile phones will work on the Public Mobile network. Phones from other wireless companies will not work on our network. Look for the Public Mobile logo on the phone or visit a Public Mobile store to make sure." So sounds like the N900 won't be compatible.
*And from the Mobilicity website: "Mobilicity’s network uses a frequency called AWS, with bands 1700/2100." Which I assume that is the correct N900 3G band. Yet I don't see anywhere any sort of information that points to them eventually making the move to Montreal... :(

So is it fair to say that the N900 will not have 3G coverage in Montreal for at least another 2 years?

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

That sounds like fairly standard provider nonsense to me, and should probably be read as, "don't blame us if your non-Public Mobile phone doesn't work." I seriously doubt that only PM phones will work (although I suppose they could be that restrictive).

What might be tricky is getting your hands on one of their SIMs without having to buy a phone to go with it. I know when Wind first launched in Toronto, that was the only way to get a SIM. Didn't take them too long to realize that they were deterring lots of potential customers by not offering SIM-only sign ups.

Have you checked the Public Mobile forum at HowardForums?

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

My personal guess is that the corps (thru the CRTC) don't like Unlocked phones. Fido refused to answer any questions as soon as I told them I did'nt have a Fido provided phone. So Nokia can't offer the N900 in Canada or else they would'nt be able to sell any Nokia phones thru the big 3 ! As stupid as that might sound. One of my co-worker updated the firmware of his phones from the manufacturer and Bell downgraded the smartphone remotely the next day (while the phone stopped working for half a day until it booted back and was the old firmware version!) It was not a rented phone nor did he have a contract. He just got it from Bell and they were his current provider.

Well, I think the answer is Videotron. They were supposed to offer the service this summer 3.75G! But it was delayed till autumn.
http://www.thespec.com/News/Business/article/768524

Thing is, everything need to be in place for Aug 15
http://www.westislandgazette.com/news/15091
so I guess they will be ready but maybe they have to wait for the local broadcaster to build the new towers on top of Mount Royal for OTA HD ?!? Is'nt the frenquency (1700) the one's from the old analog tv broadcast won thru auction?

So that transition end August 2011 where TV OTA will be king (crystal picture).

Interesting note is that for the CRTC, officially, OTA does'nt exist while the US gov give a nice web site so that any american can find all the channels he would get from a tower antenna.

Please don't take any 2 years contracts, since even the current cell provider might lower their own prices and they won't do that for you if you are locked into them... Wait 2011 to lock yourself.

I, for my part, wish to get nice 3G service from Videotron when they launch but if it does'nt work, I would simply stay with Fido.... Which call me to lock me into a 2 year contract each month now... :)

Strange fact : Videotron built a new tower in the middle of the commuter train parking at "Du Ruisseau", taking 6 parking space for the nice little building at the base, and since the day they finished it, that station has become a black hole for my Fido-connected phone!! I completely lose data connection for the 5 min we are around that parking! It must be powerfull to "static" the other provider...

Maybe it's because it was already at the edge of 2 others fido/rogers towers and I was lucky it was working before there.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

iam actualy connected on rogers canada....and my data signalk showing me 2.5g

any way for capture 3.5 or more...cause rogers canada launch iphone 4g for montreal canada so n900 suppose to be able to surf on it fast way

i buy a n900 ferrary for go fast on the internet racing like a ferrari

not like a pintault


tx to share me anyway for hack this n900 for be able to got 3g+ in canada...iam shure its possible!!

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

No -- there's no 'hack' to get 3G on the N900 in Canada. You simply need to switch to a wireless provider that offers AWS 3G data (which Rogers does not).

I'm really not sure what your options are in Quebec, unfortunately.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

http://www.rogers.com/web/Rogers.por...reless_network
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9956/mtls.jpg

Whit my n95 8Go i got a 3.5g always fast....how i get it whit my n900...damn!!!

i mean...when i use statut bar switcher for put on dual or 3g...nothing is monitoring in NetMon App

here my log for gsm
maybe that give a clue
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/6...reenshot02.png


because i got 3.5g on my n95 via same network
because i connect in the past my n810 via my n95 on this network and got 3.5g too
same sim card and config

so why dont work on n900

montreal canada be able to got 21 mbps soon

so how get simple 3g+ / 7.2 Mbps like usualy on n900...like on n95...and many more...

that ubset me:(

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

@LABAUDIO, The N900 specs say that it supports HSPA via 900/1700/2100.

Rogers and Fido offer HSPA on 850/1900. So there is no way for the N900 to be on 3G with Rogers right now.

The N95 must be a NA model, which works 3G on ATT and Rogers.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

Exactly. The N900 hardware is simply not compatible with Rogers' 3G spectrum.

As far as I can tell, Vidéotron is the only operator with a license for AWS spectrum in Quebec, so unless that changes, you will have to wait for them to begin offering 3G there and then switch your service from Rogers to Vidéotron.

With any luck, that could happen as early as next month.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

Sorry for not using the Montreal thread (long forgotten), but I just needed to say that my N900 is working very well on the new Videotron wireless network in 3.5G in Montreal.

The speedtest result vary greatly from minute to minute but the speedtest to NewYork,
with Fido - Edge, I was getting
173Kb/s download and 79Kb/s upload with 225ms latency
Now with Videotron I'm getting
3409Kb/s download and 1146Kb/s upload with 96 latency

But I have to add that the speedtest page displayed that it detected compression on the upload (I never seen that message before Videotron wireless).

If you prefer the pure result that stay inside Videotron (test.videotron.ca)
5.85Mbps download and 799kbps upload with 110ms (that prove the network speed is really varying since I'm getting faster upload to NewYork!)

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

I am using N900 from August with 2 months of mobilicity and then I switch to Fido now.

Yeah, it shows up 2.5 G and it is for sure we are in 2 to 2.5G instead of 3G (or even 3.5G) and it's slower. Fido / Roger support 1900 MHz only. I heard from a post in xda developer that he got 2100MHz HSPA 3G but now he don't. He said even 1900 is turned off in Rogers and Fido because of saving the bandwidth. I don't know it's true but I will use netmon to confirm it.

Yes, definitely you can use it like a normal cell phone. Well, it is sure the data is slower in 2.5 G and I feel it. I use it with mobilicity 1700 for 2 Months and they even have 3.5 G and tethering it with wifi hotspot (btw, wifi hotspot works most of the time), it's even faster than using my bell connection with my ADSL sometime. Too bad that mobilicity (Wind too) only have 1700/2100 supported and the reception is really weak deal to the AWS high frequency's weak penetration power and distance (it's a known fact). I don't want to miss any call therefore I sacrifice the data transfer rate for my reception.

I heard that Telus and Bell will give SIM card for 3G HSPA network but I am not sure. Our phone said it support WCDMA so it might work with Telus and Bell. Just go a shop or phone in or email them and see what they said. They might or they might not accept us because our phone IMEI is not from them, at least I know that's the case in Telus.

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

yeah. our N900 spec doesn't support Fido/Rogers. Too bad. :(
Too bad. It's slow for us .....
if videotron come to Toronto, and they have both high and low frequency support for N900, then I would like to try it. (Well, it also depends on their data price too.)

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

why wait for videotron? I'm gonna switch to Wind , they support 3G and it seems reasonably priced :)

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

I would've switched to WIND to get my N900 working on 3G, but I've heard (and read) bad reviews from those who have gone to them.

The basic complaint is coverage. People have to be in, or very close to, toronto to get anything significant for coverage.

A friend also told me that their tech support treated him pretty badly, including hanging up on him. He's made a complaint, but they didn't do anything about it.

As much as I hate paying rogers my money, since I don't work for them anymore, I've been searching high & low for a decent alternative and haven't been able to find one. The reports about Rogers or Fido even getting new bands like GSM World suggests, is also pretty sketchy.

Link: http://www.mobileworldlive.com/maps/...8&cname=Canada

So.. really, I don't know. I have until the end of July with rogers, and I haven't renewed. If WIND happens to improve by then, I'll give them a shot, but for now I'm stuck with my 2.5G.


EDIT: 'DAVE' Shows up on that list, but they launched as Mobilicity in the end

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

Hey guys....I have an N900 and its not working for the last 1 year. I spent $600+ and is of no use now. I use a Wind Basic model. I am in Toronto.

Is there a way that I can get some use out of this phone. Wer can I repair this phone in Toronto?

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 

Welcome Augus123,

I'm not sure what you mean when you say you have no use. Are you referring to the data settings for Wind? If you have a voice/data plan, the AP is internet.windmobile.ca. If you are using a data plan only (as in for the usb sticks), then the AP is broadband.windmobile.ca. I use this on Wind and it's been great!