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switch2ux 2009-10-22 09:10

Re: Did your N900 ship today continued
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter@Maemo Marketing (Post 355093)
In reference to your questions on the expected shipment date of the Nokia N900, let me tell you the latest information from Nokia:

The Nokia N900 is a great example of what we and the open source community have been able to achieve with Maemo software. We are working closely with open source developers and for example, at the Maemo Summit in October, we loaned 300 pre-production units to get more feedback from the community. This feedback is extremely important to us and as such we also want to provide the best user experience with the Nokia N900.

We expect it to start shipping during November 2009.

Peter Schneider
Head of Maemo Marketing
Nokia Corporation

Thanks a lot for posting your comments here ... will use my E90 a bit longer ... not a problem ... keep on working on this great devices

Peter@Maemo Marketing 2009-10-22 09:12

Re: Did your N900 ship today continued
 
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Originally Posted by eikido (Post 355121)
Peter knows more than Nokia Sweden...

Not Sweden, nor UK, nor US, will get devices before we start shipments.

This information is fresh from Nokia and it takes some time for retailers to update their availability times. We haven't been sitting on this information just waiting for October to end. Otherwise we could have just waited until November, the 1st to tell you.

switch2ux 2009-10-22 09:14

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Originally Posted by SubCore (Post 355112)
I asked them about it and here's their answer:

"Ja, wir erwarten den Wareneingang in 8Tagen und ja es handelt sich um die englische Variante mit QWERTY Tastatur."

expansys.at will have it in stock within 8 days, with the english QWERTY layout.

Thanks for posting this ... will wait for the QWERTZ version ... always writing an "ae" for an "ä" is a bit frustrating after a while.
:p

mak 2009-10-22 09:17

Re: Did your N900 ship today continued
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter@Maemo Marketing (Post 355134)
Not Sweden, nor UK, nor US, will get devices before we start shipments.

This information is fresh from Nokia and it takes some time for retailers to update their availability times. We haven't been sitting on this information just waiting for October to end. Otherwise we could have just waited until November, the 1st to tell you.

ok, for retailers.
i wonder when nokia-shops are updated

it's too bad, hope this is the last delay

kopte3 2009-10-22 09:18

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I think having Peter here is a way that Nokia shows that it respects its customers. For everyone who moaned on this thread - you got your answer. Obviously he can't say the exact date, because nobody knows that, yet. I think it's very nice that someone official has spoken to us.
Thank you Peter for coming here and please don't bother about some things you read, the majority here respects you because we are not being childish.

nuknuk 2009-10-22 09:20

Re: Did your N900 ship today continued
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter@Maemo Marketing (Post 355134)
Not Sweden, nor UK, nor US, will get devices before we start shipments.

This information is fresh from Nokia and it takes some time for retailers to update their availability times. We haven't been sitting on this information just waiting for October to end. Otherwise we could have just waited until November, the 1st to tell you.

Thanks peter .

fluido 2009-10-22 09:25

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Bug squashing is not an exact science. It is a black art. I would not like to be in the socks of those developers these days...

eikido 2009-10-22 09:26

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Fully agree.

Thanks Peter and Nokia.

Keep it going:)

Eikido

mak 2009-10-22 09:27

Re: Did your N900 ship today continued
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kopte3 (Post 355142)
I think having Peter here is a way that Nokia shows that it respects its customers. For everyone who moaned on this thread - you got your answer. Obviously he can't say the exact date, because nobody knows that, yet. I think it's very nice that someone official has spoken to us.
Thank you Peter for coming here and please don't bother about some things you read, the majority here respects you because we are not being childish.

i'm also thankful he posted. thanks a lot

anyway nokia should work on there marketing and support

switch2ux 2009-10-22 09:33

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Till release I will just play around with the final SDK and have some fun that way ... ;-)

HangLoose 2009-10-22 09:36

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Bug squashing is indeed pain...
I will wait till November-end, if December I dont get my device I will just wait for Maemo 6. Anyway, I can survive with phones the company gives to me for free (some nokia e-series)

Chuby 2009-10-22 09:44

Re: Did your N900 ship today continued
 
Hi Everybody!

I've a question for Peter@Maemo Marketing :

I'm a french guy, if i buy a nokia n900 in USA, will the 3G+ work in France or not ? Will i have a lot of problem ?

Thank you

evil_m0nkey 2009-10-22 09:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mak (Post 355151)
i'm also thankful he posted. thanks a lot

anyway nokia should work on there marketing and support

I think they did and atleast they are bothering to reply. Also, how many open source projects do you know that divert all heir resources to marketing, than on the actual project.

danke Peter once again, may you live long and have over 400 babies

SubCore 2009-10-22 09:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuby (Post 355158)
I'm a french guy, if i buy a nokia n900 in USA, will the 3G+ work in France or not ? Will i have a lot of problem ?

i'm not peter, but i can answer your question :)

yes, 3G will work in France, all devices are the same in terms of connectivity options. only the keyboard layout is different.

spinnukur 2009-10-22 09:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuby (Post 355158)
Hi Everybody!

I've a question for Peter@Maemo Marketing :

I'm a french guy, if i buy a nokia n900 in USA, will the 3G+ work in France or not ? Will i have a lot of problem ?

Thank you

Umm, it's pretty self explanatory. Look at the frequencies in the US, then look at the frequencies in France...you have your answer! Your question is something you should be able to answer yourself with a little effort.

mak 2009-10-22 09:49

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Originally Posted by evil_m0nkey (Post 355159)
danke Peter once again, may you live long and have over 400 babies

lol :cool:

bocaJ 2009-10-22 09:50

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Peter, you know that by replying to this thread, you're just encouraging us.

Please keep doing so ;-)

sharper 2009-10-22 09:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spinnukur (Post 355164)
Umm, it's pretty self explanatory. Look at the frequencies in the US, then look at the frequencies in France...you have your answer! Your question is something you should be able to answer yourself with a little effort.

Not really the US is nowhere near as much of a standard on these things as Europe. Whether a particular device will work for both is dependent on the device and which carriers it's supporting.

NvyUs 2009-10-22 10:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jerra (Post 355017)
Nokia UK now states:
Tentative delivery date: November 2009.

Nokia Sweden still states week 44 as expected release week.

nokia UK as said that for past 4 weeks so no change there, cant understand how you only just noticed that

ruskie 2009-10-22 10:06

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I find it sad so many people complaning while at the some time I think the ultamet goal is to get as many people happy with the released version instead of having people whine about it after the release.

I think the people that need to be impressed the most by the release are right here in this forum. Yet all they want is a device so they can the complain about it not working as it should and so on.

Joe Average won't hear of this for probably atleast a month or two after the release really. For those a few after release updates won't matter. But for those that will be using it from day one those are the ones that will make or break it.

What I wouldn't mind is getting an email message on the day it is released direct from Nokia. It's released go to your nearest Nokia store and get it.

Waiting is half the fun. The other half usually ends in disapointment if it's not handled properly.

I'd rather wait an extra month or two and know that the device and software I get then and there will be more vetted and bugfixed etc.

The one thing I don't expect in that time is actually a hardware revision - i.e. adding or removing bits and pieces. But I do expect the existing hardware to be tweaked(possible with fixes for issues people have) and the software to be optimised as well.

Chuby 2009-10-22 10:06

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I searched myself to see the specs of a nokia n900 FR and an US


US = Operating Frequency
Optimized for WCDMA 900/1700/2100
Quad-band EGSM 850/900/1800/1900
Optimized for 3G networks on WCDMA 900/1700/2100 Quad-band EGSM 850/900/1800/1900

FR = Fréquence de fonctionnement
Quad-band EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 900/1700/2100
Commutation automatique entre bandes GSM
Mode Avion


It's approximately the same. By deduction, the US nokia will work in France.

But i hope a confirmation :)

Peter@Maemo Marketing 2009-10-22 10:09

Re: Did your N900 ship today continued
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuby (Post 355158)
Hi Everybody!

I've a question for Peter@Maemo Marketing :

I'm a french guy, if i buy a nokia n900 in USA, will the 3G+ work in France or not ? Will i have a lot of problem ?

Thank you

Remember that US and France have different keyboard layouts. Also pre-loaded content such as Maps will be different. But if you know how to flash the device, you should be able to get the French version flashed onto your device.

NvyUs 2009-10-22 10:15

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keep delaying it then I'll persuade my girlfriend to pay for it as a festive gift.
then I'll have extra £500 for chocolate Santa's, win win situation IMO

borja 2009-10-22 10:26

Re: Did your N900 ship today continued
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuby (Post 355158)
Hi Everybody!

I've a question for Peter@Maemo Marketing :

I'm a french guy, if i buy a nokia n900 in USA, will the 3G+ work in France or not ? Will i have a lot of problem ?

Thank you

According with the information publicly available there is only a version of the N900 which operates in the frecuencies 900, 1700 and 2100 MHz.

Currently there are three UMTS networks deployed in France; Orange, SFR and Bouygues Télécom, all three in the 2100 MHz band, so the N900, idependently where do you buy it, should work with any of theese networks.

The main difference between a devices purchased in USA and France will be localisation, keyboard layout, and plug pin of the charger provided with the device.

You can buy the device from USA, but you won't get a Frenc keyboard and you will have to buy a charger.

zerobyproxy 2009-10-22 10:27

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Sometime in November.

http://n900blog.wordpress.com/2009/1...ially-delayed/

ruskie 2009-10-22 10:33

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@Peter@Maemo Marketing

Not sure if you're the right person to ask. If I buy a N900 localy and it comes with a physical keymap I don't like. Is there a way to get that replaced an the nokia service at my own cost for a different one? This has been talked about in other threads dealing with the keyboard but I didn't see any obvious responses. Also am wondering if there are any plans for aftermarket keymaps from Nokia for those that might want a different keymap(i.e. dvorak or svorak or anything more exotic).

NvyUs 2009-10-22 10:34

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Originally Posted by zerobyproxy (Post 355190)

the quote what was originally took from a few pages back in this very thread oldish news pal everyone as already pulled there hair out lol

simpsons 2009-10-22 11:04

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Originally Posted by zerobyproxy (Post 355190)

PHAIL lololol:p

Moley 2009-10-22 11:13

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Thanks Peter for at least sparing a thought for us little guys.

I think that the irritation is from the fact that no official information is around... I'd be happy with a sorry but it's going to be November 20th definately because we're ironing out a couple of issues, but till you spoke we had nothing and even then your comment was fairly vague.

Say for example JUST 2000 people had this preordered... that works out at around $1million of turnover. It's disappointing when a large corporation is that ambivilent to that sort of income/purchasing power.

Luckily I have a non-payment issue on ebay for my N79 so I have time to resolve it before having to shell out for my preorder.

zico 2009-10-22 11:17

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Thanks for your replies Peter. To be honest, i was just about to cancel my order and not buy the N900 at all. Because its just to much of disrespect from Nokia, i mean come on if i have ordered from their official online shop here in Sweden, the least they can do after delaying it so many times is to send an email to ppl who have ordered and tell them about the delay. Instead im following forums all around the internet to get info about the release. Thats to much IMO.
But Peter being here changes stuff, definitely not my disappointment in nokia, but my appreciation for the Maemo team. Take all the time you need, and thanks for being here Peter.

range 2009-10-22 11:18

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Originally Posted by zerobyproxy (Post 355190)

Oh man. Not that Peter said it himself HERE IN THIS THREAD. Don't you even read before posting? :mad:

HangLoose 2009-10-22 11:24

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Now you guys have a good excuse to put flash 10 and a digital compass right? RIGHT?! :D

borja 2009-10-22 11:31

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Originally Posted by HangLoose (Post 355229)
Now you guys have a good excuse to put flash 10 and a digital compass right? RIGHT?! :D

Please no, doing so will only imply more delays!

Anyway, the hardware is apparently final, so it will no be possible to add a compass and flash 10 can always be added via software update. In fact I would not care to have pre-release firmware in my device if I can have it before.

Corwin 2009-10-22 11:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter@Maemo Marketing (Post 355093)
We expect it to start shipping during November 2009.

Peter,

you know, of course I am glad you are here and telling it 'face to face'. But this is personal and it is related to you. Thank you for being open.

On the other side I am getting really bored by this and I am starting to heavily doubt Nokia (and I am not talking about the N900 now!).
I was always thinking highly of OPK, but listening to his keynotes and closely following Nokia I get a feeling of him and Anssi becoming more and more out of touch with reality.

Nokias direction is great, the transition to a services company is the right thing IMHO and it is great. But it is going WAY TOO SLOW. It is taking year after year with really minimal visible movement. Of course a lot has happened and from a professional point of view I know, that it takes years, but still - it is happening too slow.

Delaying the hottest (and first non shameful) N-Series since the N95 three times in a row is only a symptom of what seems to be happening at Nokia. There are so many great and talented people there, I believe more than anywhere else, and the culture is great. Still the sum here seems to be less than its parts. I wonder why.

Thanks and best regards,
Corwin

eikido 2009-10-22 12:15

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This is a thing i like about apple. In most cases, when they set a date, you will get it that date. And they don't announce products several months before release. We can guess there will be a new product at some keynotes, but thats about it.

I can't remeber a Nokia/Sony Ericsson product i wanted that had been released at the set date.

Because of that, i don't give a sh** about SE's Rachael (something i would want if it was available today), because i'm tired of waiting and i know they will use the same routing, not releasing at the set date (i know they haven't even announced it but i know their routines).

To be honest, i guessed the same with N900 but there isn't another phone coming soon i want.

So if the HTC Dragon comes out before, i'll probably get that one.


Eikido

draco.bdn 2009-10-22 12:22

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Thank you for this information :)

Altough I find it a little bit funny, that the Nokia Support don't know anything about this device.

I sended an email to the German Support, because a week before they told me, that the device will reached the market this week.

The new reply told me, that they don't really know when the N900 will be released. I have to ask Amazon or my retail store, because they know when the N900 will be released.

Little funny that Nokia don't known when Nokia release a product :D

m3kyd 2009-10-22 12:32

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Originally Posted by draco.bdn (Post 355273)
Little funny that Nokia don't known when Nokia release a product :D

No, it's sad.

zico 2009-10-22 12:33

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Originally Posted by draco.bdn (Post 355273)
Little funny that Nokia don't known when Nokia release a product :D

Funny? try ******ed.

GrgS 2009-10-22 12:44

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Originally Posted by eikido (Post 355258)
So if the HTC Dragon comes out before, i'll probably get that one.
Eikido

same here .... my phone is about to die and I need a new one asap. I might buy HTC HD2 if it comes before N900 otherwise I might look some other alternatives.

I have waited for N900 even before/since it was announced. First they said beginning of October (in Nokia Germany) then 12th and now 30th, which I still accept. However, now they are pushing forward to November and I cannot rely/trust anymore. Do you trust or believe someone who already 3 times fails to keep their word?

I really do like and want to have N900 but....

just my 2 p.

titan 2009-10-22 13:03

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here's suggestion for release of future Maemo-based devices:

Please offer the device to enthusiasts as soon as the hardware is final. I guess most of us can live with some bugs, as long as we can
update the firmware to the final version that will be shipped to normal customers later. Plus we'll report bugs and suggest improvements before the public release, especially if we can get
a discount for being beta testers.
Just make sure the version is labelled as "N9x0 pre" and is not
meant for average customers (just like "Palm pre" :-)


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