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TheLongshot 2010-03-02 19:20
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by russo_br (Post 552784)
You are right, it is a issue with paid content on Ovi Store. But it is ridiculous that a company like Nokia is taking months to fix something that should be ready from N900 launch, after all an application store is a source of incoming for both Nokia and developers like Sygic... They are all loosing money!!! In most company heads would be rolling due to this huge delay... be it Ovi or Maemo teams (or even both) fault!!

Customers just don't care what are the difficulties of getting the Ovi Store for Maemo ready for paid content, but Nokia should at least give some explanations why it is taking too long to solve a major problem like that... and compromise with a date to fix it!!
Just as a note, the Android store didn't have paid apps until about 5 months after the G1 was released.

russo_br 2010-03-02 19:42
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hossie (Post 552795)
You think giving out a date would make it better? What happens if it is not finished at that date? Look at all software (including maemo) - the minority is giving out fixed dates.
Sure I agree it is easier not to set a date, but Nokia is a corporation and I bet there are Project Managers controlling the Maemo program and its sub-projects. All employees surely have a fixed date for delivering their job... Yes, just a minority compromise with fixed dates, but why couldn't Nokia do that? They are compromising on releasing a Meego device by the 2H2010, aren't they? I also remember they gave a date to release Ovi Maps for N97... Regarding N900 the only date I heard a estimated date was the launch date.

shadowjk 2010-03-02 23:17
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLongshot (Post 552843)
Just as a note, the Android store didn't have paid apps until about 5 months after the G1 was released.
It still doesn't for many users. It depends on who made the phone with android, and where you live. I guess it's not an easy thing to do when google hasn't been able to do it yet..

les_garten 2010-03-03 00:59
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLongshot (Post 552843)
Just as a note, the Android store didn't have paid apps until about 5 months after the G1 was released.


Not the same thing though is it? Maemo/N900 was just EOL'd 2.5 months after it was released.

Bratag 2010-03-03 01:04
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 553282)
Not the same thing though is it? Maemo/N900 was just EOL'd 2.5 months after it was released.
Enough with the FUD. There has been no statement of that nature - nor even anything remotely hinting that the N900 is EOL. We seriously do not need this kind of thing - the forums have enough FUD already.

JohnLF 2010-03-03 01:47
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Well I have just been browsing the Nokia site and re-read the press release for Qt4.6.2 gold release for Maemo5. One thing mentioned is that new APIs available alongside this version include navigation APIs.

I also saw that Qt4.6 was targeted at the PR1.2 release of Maemo5

Now this bit is conjecture, but if you have the PR1.2 release out, with Qt4.6 built-in and navigation APIs, then I think it is more likely Nokia will bring updated OviMaps to the N900.

This for me is only good news, and I am looking forward to the PR1.2 release. I am not expecting Maps3 to be included with it, but I am very much hoping that it will be ported soon.

les_garten 2010-03-03 02:13
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 553284)
Enough with the FUD. There has been no statement of that nature - nor even anything remotely hinting that the N900 is EOL. We seriously do not need this kind of thing - the forums have enough FUD already.
Ahhh Excuse me, but ain't you been paying attention? There ain't no Maemo 6 now and no confirmation Meego is going on the N900.

You own stock in Sygic or somethin'?

NokiaRocks 2010-03-03 02:30
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Nobody's at the Cebit to ask Sygic what's up with the N900 navigation solution ?

Rob1n 2010-03-03 09:25
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 553320)
Ahhh Excuse me, but ain't you been paying attention? There ain't no Maemo 6 now and no confirmation Meego is going on the N900.
EOL has a very specific definition, and as the N900 is still being manufactured, sold, and supported, it very definitely does not apply.

There was never any confirmation that Maemo 6 was coming to the N900, and there's been no confirmation that MeeGo won't be (just be thankful you didn't buy a Windows Mobile based phone).

Dave999 2010-03-03 11:21
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
could it be that they will release the new version of sygic's sw(Aura) for n900?

LordJuanlo 2010-03-03 12:46
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Don't think so, they would have removed Maemo version of the "old" app from their shop

Hossie 2010-03-03 12:50
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
It should be released "a month ago"

http://twitter.com/SygicOfficial/status/9922421229

and Aura is coming too

http://twitter.com/SygicOfficial/status/9917434966

russo_br 2010-03-03 13:07
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hossie (Post 553827)
As a potential byuer I am happy to know that but at the same time a bit worried... If we buy Sygic for Maemo now and they will launch Aura a few months later, will we have the option to upgrade it, even paying an extra fee? Or will we need to buy it again at full price?

I guess even iPhone owners who bought Sygic are wondering this right now. It would be good if someone from Sygic can confirm their upgrade policies.

NokiaRocks 2010-03-03 13:25
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Aura for Maemo is nice. :D
Gonna save my money to get it when it comes out ( in like 10 - 15 months)

Matan 2010-03-03 13:31
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 553284)
Enough with the FUD. There has been no statement of that nature - nor even anything remotely hinting that the N900 is EOL. We seriously do not need this kind of thing - the forums have enough FUD already.
You mean support like this comment from a Nokia employee in bugzilla: "at this phase mostly just bugs critical to end users
will be fixed for Fremantle"

taril 2010-03-03 13:45
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Official:
This will be for N900 too soon on OVI:

http://sygic.com/aura/img_data/gall05.jpg


http://sygic.com/aura

Anna 2010-03-03 13:50
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NokiaRocks (Post 553324)
Nobody's at the Cebit to ask Sygic what's up with the N900 navigation solution ?
Hi guys, if we knew anything from Nokia, I would put it here with pleasure, believe me! But we don't:-(
But please, come to CeBIT, we'll be glad to meet you here - any of you.

Anna 2010-03-03 13:52
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by russo_br (Post 553850)
As a potential byuer I am happy to know that but at the same time a bit worried... If we buy Sygic for Maemo now and they will launch Aura a few months later, will we have the option to upgrade it, even paying an extra fee? Or will we need to buy it again at full price?

I guess even iPhone owners who bought Sygic are wondering this right now. It would be good if someone from Sygic can confirm their upgrade policies.
Mobile Maps and AURA are two separate products. Both are going to be supported and updated. It is up to you which one you like better - you can go for that one.

TheLongshot 2010-03-03 13:54
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matan (Post 553882)
You mean support like this comment from a Nokia employee in bugzilla: "at this phase mostly just bugs critical to end users
will be fixed for Fremantle"
Which is, at the very least, what people want. If there isn't going to be much in new features, they will want at least bug fixes to make a stable operating system. The rest is just applications, which with QT, there is at least a common base to work from between Maemo 5 and whatever comes next.

Anna 2010-03-03 13:56
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NokiaRocks (Post 553870)
Aura for Maemo is nice. :D
Gonna save my money to get it when it comes out ( in like 10 - 15 months)
Oh, don't scare us and the rest of the forum:-( we are frustrated enough:-(. I am waiting every day to be able to announce Mobile Maps - the app is technically approved by Ovi store already for weeks, but there is something with the payment process, that still has to be solved.
We want to get AURA to you, too, it is on our priority list, let's wish we won't need to go through so long as with the Mobile Maps.

Anna 2010-03-03 13:58
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Can somebody start a separate thread for Sygic AURA?

NokiaRocks 2010-03-03 14:36
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Why dont you start a thread by yourself ? :)
And why Nokia is not giving out any information to their partners ?

stantheboss 2010-03-03 15:00
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
@Anna: Why don't you guys sell it from your own shop? Screw Nokia and their delays. People here are smart enough to install the app by themselves. I guess it's the case why it's being released through ovi store - to simplify the installation process.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

-edit-
...and we are simply pissed that huge company as Nokia can't handle it's own store for months now...I mean how hard can it be to hire a good developer(s) to get the job done?!

Their communication policies just suck big time:mad:

Anna 2010-03-03 16:39
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NokiaRocks (Post 554012)
Why dont you start a thread by yourself ? :)
And why Nokia is not giving out any information to their partners ?
That is a good question - we don't know.
OK, I start the thread:-)

Ronaldo 2010-03-03 16:47
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anna (Post 554256)
That is a good question - we don't know.
OK, I start the thread:-)
well lets see if we get mobile maps 1st before another sat nav thread from a company who aint even released the 1st one....:rolleyes:

les_garten 2010-03-03 16:52
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 553575)
EOL has a very specific definition, and as the N900 is still being manufactured, sold, and supported, it very definitely does not apply.

There was never any confirmation that Maemo 6 was coming to the N900, and there's been no confirmation that MeeGo won't be (just be thankful you didn't buy a Windows Mobile based phone).
,


You can pitch semantics around all ya want, but it was dead-ended unless it goes the Meego route.

Hossie 2010-03-03 17:31
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
As I have not found any contact form for the ovi team, maybe some comments (which they seem to read) would be good:

http://blog.ovi.com

Ronaldo 2010-03-03 17:38
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hossie (Post 554368)
As I have not found any contact form for the ovi team, maybe some comments (which they seem to read) would be good:

http://blog.ovi.com
i asked a question abt turn by turn on n900

debernardis 2010-03-04 06:10
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Anna, could you please summarize the differences between mobile maps and Aura? I understand there's much more "social" on Aura, but concerning gps routing what are the peculiarities of both? Thanks

russo_br 2010-03-04 13:20
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anna (Post 553928)
Mobile Maps and AURA are two separate products. Both are going to be supported and updated. It is up to you which one you like better - you can go for that one.
@Anna,

I understand your frustration about the delays from Ovi Store, but since both will be separate products consumers will have difficulty to decide whether they buy Mobile Maps as soon as Nokia finally gets Ovi Store working, or they should wait for AURA for Maemo.

Do you have any estimated date for releasing AURA for Maemo? If there are little difference between Mobile Maps and AURA release dates it would be great if N900 owners could buy Mobile Maps now and later decide if they prefer to exchange their license for AURA, even if there is any extra fees.

dogward 2010-03-06 08:25
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
So... Still no release date/ETA ???

This is so awsome; claiming they have a software ready for months and not even publish an ETA... Come on, is Sygic just fooling us around ?

And what about nokia ? Werent we supposed to have free Ovi Maps navigation for all nokia devices in march ?
Yep, I know, it's still begining of march, but I tend not to beleive nokia's PR lately.

But I guess that's (sadly) good for competition, I, as many of us, am going for standalone tomtom satnav, and I guess I am (sadly, once again), stepping out of nokia for my next mobile device.

casper27 2010-03-06 08:47
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
The software is ready. There are many videos demonstrating this and there are actual members of this forum testing the software for Sygic for the past couple of months. I thnk they are as frustrated as us with not been able to realease it.

NokiaRocks 2010-03-06 17:11
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Why they just don't release it in their own shop then ?

sgbirch 2010-03-06 17:43
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sophocha (Post 544709)
I need my navigation software nooooooow!....any navigation will do!...I got lost the other day and it pisses me off that my old 5800 is starting to look better than my N900, especially with the kinetic scrolling firmware and full sygic support
You think that is bad. I have to carry my ancient HP HW6915 Windows Mobile 5 around with me because it came with TomTom pre-installed and provides the navigation features N900 is still missing.

Hossie 2010-03-06 23:02
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Although someone from the ovi team has responed to some questions on the blog now, they completly ignored our maemo-questions. Great.

joshua.maverick 2010-03-06 23:30
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
It looks pretty garbage, ovi maps 3.x is better looking, so is 1.x. It's a shame nokia hates the n900 so much.

Crogge 2010-03-06 23:31
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hossie (Post 558241)
Although someone from the ovi team has responed to some questions on the blog now, they completly ignored our maemo-questions. Great.
We are simply too nice with them, actions are required here!

No idea why they haven't released it on their own yet, it might be a special contract with Nokia.

russo_br 2010-03-07 12:39
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crogge (Post 558267)
We are simply too nice with them, actions are required here!

No idea why they haven't released it on their own yet, it might be a special contract with Nokia.
The reason could be not just a contract obligation, but also related with anti-piracy technology being provided by Ovi Store instead of Sygic building its own protection system...

Skyscraper 2010-03-07 13:21
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Hi!

I was at the stand from Sygic at the CeBIT 2010 in Hannover, Germany!
They said to me that the software is already finished. But they're waiting for an response ("okay" or stlt ?!?) from Nokia.
->The Problem isn't Sygic. It's Nokia.

That is what I heard.

Skyscraper
PS: Sorry for my bad english. I'm German :D

mele 2010-03-07 13:36
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
So are we waiting that Nokia finishes their Navigation software to Maeno with turn-by-turn and voice navigation and then they so green light to Sygic :D


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