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nightwing310 2007-09-28 05:17

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Is it to possible to downloads map VE hybrid, google street maps, etc from a computer and transfer them to a memory card and to the tablet? Because it takes long to download for me on wifi

murphy 2007-09-28 06:02

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Yes, look at this :
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ight=winmapper
It's a Windows® program but it works also fine under Linux with wine.

penguinbait 2007-09-28 18:23

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
GNUITE, any chance we will ever have a print button for current map view?

please please please!!!

gnuite 2007-09-28 20:31

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 78272)
GNUITE, any chance we will ever have a print button for current map view?

Print? To file or to a printer?

I guess I could save to a file, but a simple screenshot utility should do the trick there, too.

penguinbait 2007-09-28 20:37

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 78287)
Print? To file or to a printer?

I guess I could save to a file, but a simple screenshot utility should do the trick there, too.

Well I posted a cups install, and I was thinking it would be nice to be able to print a map and have a hard copy in my hand, but perhaps I can find a screenshot utility that will print directly, that might work also.

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=10057

nightwing310 2007-09-29 06:40

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
For WinMapper, is there a radius that can be related to the file size? because im downloading 25 miles radius, on ve hybrid and its a pretty huge file

nightwing310 2007-09-30 22:39

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
If you download the maps, can you still get directions to point a to b?

Green_Star 2007-10-01 14:01

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
hey , yesterday i observed that when i downloaded a route and started driving, it is showing two lines(it is kind of confusion to follow), i guess one line is for my driving direction to destination and another line is the return directions. is it true? in that case I do not have to download return route every time.

And one more thing, is there any way to save driving directions as text file or some other nice format like html? because i can use those files in case of MM crashing in middle of my driving or just before i start my driving.

(MM may crash for many reasons like latest updates to OS or some problem with libraries or bluetooth GPS malfunctioning etc)

gnuite 2007-10-01 21:02

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Green_Star (Post 78811)
hey , yesterday i observed that when i downloaded a route and started driving, it is showing two lines(it is kind of confusion to follow), i guess one line is for my driving direction to destination and another line is the return directions. is it true? in that case I do not have to download return route every time.

The green line shows your route (where to want to go). The red line shows your track (where you have been). If you follow the route exactly, the red line becomes drawn on top of the green line. You can enable to disable the display of either (or both) in the View menu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green_Star (Post 78811)
And one more thing, is there any way to save driving directions as text file or some other nice format like html? because i can use those files in case of MM crashing in middle of my driving or just before i start my driving.

You can save routes as GPX, which is kind of readable. But if Maemo Mapper crashes, you can always just start it up again and resume following the route, so I'm not sure why you would need to do this.

murphy 2007-10-01 21:18

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Maemo Mapper crashs quite frequently like when my old gps was out of range/powered out. I've bought a new GPS reveiver and maybe because I set it running at 2 or 5 Hz frequency, Mapper is very unstable : approximatly every 10 mn it crashs/closes, even without touching it.
So I know well how to keep my settings : just after I start a trip, I save the route into a file(to be secure), and close Mapper intentionnally. Mapper saves the current setting and I could relauch it without to be afraid : if it crashes, I relaunch it and it restore my start-trip settings/bluetooth connection.

Green_Star 2007-10-02 14:42

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 78943)
The green line shows your route (where to want to go). The red line shows your track (where you have been). If you follow the route exactly, the red line becomes drawn on top of the green line. You can enable to disable the display of either (or both) in the View menu.


You can save routes as GPX, which is kind of readable. But if Maemo Mapper crashes, you can always just start it up again and resume following the route, so I'm not sure why you would need to do this.

Thanks gnuite,

Yes, the red one is for tracking I know, but it was disabled and I see two green lines. I see second blue line is little different when I am going thru one-ways (it should be because of one way).

So with your explanation I understand that If i download a route it will not download the return route. I will re-make sure about that two blue lines when I use next time. (I think i downloaded/saved return route first and later i downloaded/saved the actual route without closing the return route, that could be the reason I saw two routes at same time). But any way I will try again.

The reason why I need the directions in text/html format is, for example today I just updated my MM software to new version, and I do not know how stable it is in my device and I started my driving (only this version may be instable and only in my device because of ...may be incorrect version of libraries or some other reason as some one told about bluetooth device in previous post, for example last time i went to a 4 hrs drive and i forgot to take my GPS car charger and on the route i was little worried that my GPS unit may be out of battery, of course it didn't happened luckly). So if I have atleast a test/html version of directions then i can use those just like how we used to take printouts and use it when GPS was not available. It is like backup plan when I am not able to use MM. This is just my idea, not a big deal.

Thanks again.

lsatblu 2007-10-02 20:45

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Hi, would this GPS reciever work with the Nokia 770 and Maemo Mapper?

http://buygpsnow.com/GlobalSat-BT-32...328)__916.aspx

Thanks =)

Edit: Sorry another question..if I get lost while using Maemo Mapper, will it automatically put me back on track if I have all the maps already downloaded to my memory card?

bac522 2007-10-02 21:48

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murphy (Post 78946)
Maemo Mapper crashs quite frequently like when my old gps was out of range/powered out. I've bought a new GPS reveiver and maybe because I set it running at 2 or 5 Hz frequency, Mapper is very unstable : approximatly every 10 mn it crashs/closes, even without touching it.
So I know well how to keep my settings : just after I start a trip, I save the route into a file(to be secure), and close Mapper intentionnally. Mapper saves the current setting and I could relauch it without to be afraid : if it crashes, I relaunch it and it restore my start-trip settings/bluetooth connection.

MM never crashes for me, I've used it hours on end with no problems. If MM is crashing frequently for you, I wouldn't necessarily blame MM.

DingerX 2007-10-02 22:36

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily blame MM either, but I"m seeing the same behavior: whether in default GPS connection mode or through rfcomm, MM crashes (app shuts down) without notice but with regularity (=I can't run MM with GPS enabled for more than a few minutes without it crashing). Yes, the GPS unit could be really crappy (actually it probably is), but if a subsequent cat on the device gives good data, who are we to blame for crashes?

Not that I care about blame -- I'm more interested in what I can do to get the issue resolved.
In that spirit, I'll note that I haven't had much success with GPSsaver and crew. BT control panel/devices/ calls it an unknown profile.

So in answer to the "should I buy this?" question: heck, it's thirty bucks. Worst case, it don't work.
Is maemo-mapper a full-featured satellite navigation suite? No, but that's missing the point. You can use it for driving directions, but since it's free, it has access to a lot of other interesting things as well.

lsatblu 2007-10-03 01:45

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
I ordered it, so hopefully it will work. If not, I'll try something else. :)

gnuite 2007-10-03 03:34

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murphy (Post 78946)
Maemo Mapper crashs quite frequently like when my old gps was out of range/powered out. I've bought a new GPS reveiver and maybe because I set it running at 2 or 5 Hz frequency, Mapper is very unstable : approximatly every 10 mn it crashs/closes, even without touching it.
So I know well how to keep my settings : just after I start a trip, I save the route into a file(to be secure), and close Mapper intentionnally. Mapper saves the current setting and I could relauch it without to be afraid : if it crashes, I relaunch it and it restore my start-trip settings/bluetooth connection.

This is a known issue due to the way Maemo Mapper gets data from the GPS receiver. Although the code is the same for the Nokia 770 and N800, going out of range causes the Nokia N800 version of Maemo Mapper to crash.

This is rectified in Maemo Mapper v2.0, which will hopefully be out soon.

dchen 2007-10-03 03:35

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

So if I have atleast a test/html version of directions then i can use those just like how we used to take printouts and use it when GPS was not available. It is like backup plan when I am not able to use MM. This is just my idea, not a big deal.
Even MM won't crash, the listing of drive guide is still very useful. If MM has this feature:
1. You can pre-study the route.
2. You'll know the distance and estimated driving time between turn points.
3. MM doesn't show 2nd NEXT TURN. There isn't a quick way to know where is the next turn after the coming turn.
4. For those who don't have GPS, can still use MM like a AAA flip map

DingerX 2007-10-03 05:32

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Thanks for your continued effort and support Gnuite. Just so we're clear here, what Murphy and I are talking about happens when the receiver is right next to the tablet. As long as 'out of range' can include 'transient bt issues', we're cool.

DingerX 2007-10-07 13:45

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Not to anyone in particular: my specific problem does indeed fall under the "going out of range" issue. Studying my cheap GPS unit, I find it resets itself after a mild shock, jostling or if you look at itt cross-eyed. Brilliant lads.

Goldy 2007-10-08 05:32

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldy (Post 77811)
I met the problem of mising the package "libsqlite3-0 (>=3.3.5) & "libxau0" when I am trying to install 1.4.7.2 under 2007 Hack OS on 770. But I can install 1.4.7.3 successfully (though it always crashes). I guess I have missed some software repostories but I could not figure them out.

Could you please help on this? Thanks!

Anybody could help on this?

The problem was, I could not install 1.4.7.2 under 2007 hacker OS in 770. It prompted that "libsqlite3-0(>=3.3.5)" & "libxau0" were missing. I found libsqlite in the repositories and installed it manually (and it seems successful). But when I installed libxau0 manually (downloaded from repository manually), it told me that it was "incompatible" so not able to install.

Thanks!

unsoundman 2007-10-08 12:40

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
I have the same problem I am thinking of going back to os2006.Hope that we can find the solution soon.

Green_Star 2007-10-08 16:13

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
hmm, i too have OS2007, i never encounter this kind of problems, I installed almost all versions from past 2 months without any problems. (including the next coming beta too)

lsatblu 2007-10-08 22:01

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
When I click on the maemo-mapper.install, my Application Manager pops up and says "Not Found?"

Any idea what I am doing wrong?

Green_Star 2007-10-08 22:30

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lsatblu (Post 80662)
When I click on the maemo-mapper.install, my Application Manager pops up and says "Not Found?"

Any idea what I am doing wrong?

try clicking the following link to install
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa....7-2_armel.deb


if you cant install from above link then probably this is problem with garage.maemo.org website, from few days i am not able to install any debs from this site. so one thing you can do. you can download the deb to you tablet and install that file from application manager. let us know if you encounter any problem.

lsatblu 2007-10-08 22:51

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
When I click that link, I get a whole bunch of strange letters on my screen. This happens on my PC and Internet Tablet.

Goldy 2007-10-09 04:59

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Green_Star (Post 80566)
hmm, i too have OS2007, i never encounter this kind of problems, I installed almost all versions from past 2 months without any problems. (including the next coming beta too)

Which version of 2007 of you?

I guess I need to refresh to the most update hacker version. I guess it is because that my current version will show itself as an N800 but not N770. Seems that the most update hacker version of 2007 has fixed this.

Green_Star 2007-10-09 13:49

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lsatblu (Post 80676)
When I click that link, I get a whole bunch of strange letters on my screen. This happens on my PC and Internet Tablet.

Yeah, I do see bunch of weird characters when ever I click the deb files in garage site. So what I did is, I downloaded in my desktop with "Firefox, right click on deb link-> save link as". Then I have gmailed the deb file myself in desktop, opened and downloaded that same deb attachment in my tablet. I installed that deb file using application manager in tablet. it sounds little long process but believe me i installed around 3 deb files by this process in less than 5 mins.

Green_Star 2007-10-09 13:53

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldy (Post 80727)
Which version of 2007 of you?

I guess I need to refresh to the most update hacker version. I guess it is because that my current version will show itself as an N800 but not N770. Seems that the most update hacker version of 2007 has fixed this.


hmm, I do not remember which version I installed but I am sure I installed very latest version from Nokia website around 3 weeks back.

Yeah, I do encounter this problem most of the times, the automatic install process may install N800 version of software in N700 when you run OS2007. it happened to me when I tried to install Maemo Mapper software using the link in the first post of this thread. So I installed mapper software directly from deb file in garage site (which was gnuite's suggestion), from then onwards I like to install any software directly from deb files (for my N770 running OS2007)

Goldy 2007-10-15 08:03

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldy (Post 80500)
Anybody could help on this?

The problem was, I could not install 1.4.7.2 under 2007 hacker OS in 770. It prompted that "libsqlite3-0(>=3.3.5)" & "libxau0" were missing. I found libsqlite in the repositories and installed it manually (and it seems successful). But when I installed libxau0 manually (downloaded from repository manually), it told me that it was "incompatible" so not able to install.

Thanks!

Fyi, now I know why getting "incompatible" error when manually installing the libxxx.deb, and how to solve it.

In the application manager, activate the so call "red pill" mode then I can install the libxxx.deb files downloaded.

Step:
1. In application manager.
2. Tools -> Application Catalogue, New
3. In web address, just enter "matrix"
4. Then click "cancel"
5. A dialog will pop up, select "red"
6. Install the deb file via application manger... then it works!

The reason not able to install them previously is because the deb file is missing some sessions to determine the compatibility. But in so call "red pill mode", the check is omitted.

Reference:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...atible+package

http://hildon-app-mgr.garage.maemo.org/redpill.html

lumindigo85 2007-10-17 21:18

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Hello,

Just a short question: Is it possible somehow to plan the route offline?

ilia 2007-10-17 23:51

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
What's the plan for maemo mapper on n810?

gnuite 2007-10-18 03:14

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Don't know. I've been too busy with v2.0 to look at Chinook, but it should be reasonably easy to support it. Don't know about the built-in GPS, either, but if it's available via a file system device (similar to how RFCOMM works), then Maemo Mapper should already support it. We'll see. Chinook is not my priority at the moment.

Green_Star 2007-10-18 15:23

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by szucsati (Post 83387)
Hello,

Just a short question: Is it possible somehow to plan the route offline?

I guess you can. Only thing is you have to decide how to go to destination. try tap on the screen and do not life the stylus till it shows a popup menu. from the menu use the options some thing like 'add to way point' and 'add to ...' i do not remember the exact names, right now i do not have my n770 with me. with those options you can draw a route which can be used offline.

Greyghost 2007-10-18 18:52

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 83527)
Don't know. I've been too busy with v2.0 to look at Chinook, but it should be reasonably easy to support it. Don't know about the built-in GPS, either, but if it's available via a file system device (similar to how RFCOMM works), then Maemo Mapper should already support it. We'll see. Chinook is not my priority at the moment.

Thanks Gnuite, for the consistent support through this thread. I come back to read it just to check on progress and need to let you know how eagerly I am looking forward to it. I have deliberately resisted getting a BT receiver and even playing with MM because I know 2.0 is just going to rock. And, selfishly, I'd love to see it work on the 08 OS, as I will definitely be installing that asap! Keep up the good work!

Nik1 2007-10-20 15:53

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
I have to say this is still the best application on my n800. I use it everytime I go on a roadtrip. Great support gnuite, I cant wait for ver 2.0. One favor I have is if you could list some of the main features that have been added and will probably be releaed on ver 2.0 . This will help reducing repitition of same suggestions. Thanks.

gnuite 2007-10-23 17:52

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nik1 (Post 84778)
One favor I have is if you could list some of the main features that have been added and will probably be releaed on ver 2.0 . This will help reducing repitition of same suggestions. Thanks.

Let me see if I can remember them all off-hand:

* Maps stored in single-file databases
* View rotation (including auto-rotate to match heading)
* Drag-to-pan support
* GPSD support
* Click-on-waypoint to see description
* Support for repositories with no map cache at all
* On-screen compass
* Better memory utilization
* View refresh indicator (hourglass feedback)
* More robust bluetooth receiver handling (no more crashing when out of range)
* Code reorganization (easier to read - no more singular 15,000-line file).
* POI import from GPX file
* POI download from internet
* POI browser (maybe)
* POI save to GPX file (maybe)

I think that's most of the big, noticeable changes. There are a bunch of other, smaller, less-noticeable changes, e.g. added options and UI tweaks.

sping 2007-10-23 18:01

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
2.0 features all sound very cool. I for one would love to keep up to date with how things are going, though I'm sure you'd like to avoid creating expectations. Still, if you kept a blog of progress we'd all have somewhere to check.

[Edit, removed queries about OS2008 because it was already discussed]

t24 2007-10-24 04:21

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Hello!

Can somebody help me?

I'd like to know if it is possible to open maemo-mapper (on my N800) at a specific position? (and add a POI, there, would be nice). From the command line (% maemo-mapper --open something) or from a link in a web page?

Also, is there a way to force the full screen when mapper starts?

Thanks ^^

Green_Star 2007-10-24 12:27

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by t24 (Post 86326)
Hello!

Can somebody help me?

I'd like to know if it is possible to open maemo-mapper (on my N800) at a specific position? (and add a POI, there, would be nice). From the command line (% maemo-mapper --open something) or from a link in a web page?

Also, is there a way to force the full screen when mapper starts?

Thanks ^^

Could you give me more details about what exactly is something in your command like, i mean what is the syntax, any example will be nice.

Maemo mapper can go full screen by using menu or hardware keys.

t24 2007-10-24 13:17

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Green_Star (Post 86411)
Could you give me more details about what exactly is something in your command like, i mean what is the syntax, any example will be nice.
Maemo mapper can go full screen by using menu or hardware keys.

Sorry, i was not clear enough. I gave that bogus command line just to make my point :o

Actually I look for a way to click on a link on a local web page, that opens mapper at the selected position (and if full screen, if possible).


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