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There you go... first link.

For a person that taunts inaccuracies, you misspelled Elop and Ballmer. FTFY.

Semantics and petty observations are usually the tools of the people that have nothing constructive to say or do. That's fine though. My statement stands. All of them. And I didn't have to resort to using terms like: Flop, Blamer, M$ and other slashdot or IRC chat spawned geek colloquial phrases that somehow have persisted for over 20 years.

Meanwhile, I'll be doing research on how long McKinsey has been on the board of directors. That's a new development that's quite big. No hyperbole.

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look who's talking ¦-)

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now now, easy, alien(ware) :o
was myself writing an answer when the thread got closed.

to (re-)post one of the thoughts;
the admins on that forum seem to have very partial ways.
reminds one how unprofessional this whole site is, alas.
again, if he only knew about it, a good reason for Flop to close down Maemo / MeeGo altogether, for the sole sake of avoiding a customer would end up on this site, even by accident :(
maybe the only reason this site is still running is that he doesn't even know the difference between MeeGo & Maemo respectively that later exists :D

this being said, it is a VERY long time since i last connected my N900 to a LostDOS PC to update it using OVI ware or whatever the application is called.
used the "phone suite" mode a couple weeks ago when my cable provider had a hick-up, though :o

EDIT: granted, update over the air is a progress for iPotatos (pun intended)
even so jailbreak remains a requirement if one wants to do anything but monitor one's CC account being sucked empty by Jobs & Co :mad:

EDIT': but yeap, using xxx analogy is probably a quick way to get on the admins' radar :confused:
and as they don't seem to have much between the two ears, it's a big chance the thread will get locked :rolleyes:

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maybe he was just being as consultant?
i got worried after knowing most of board was american. no wonder why they so clueless, the silly fat guys still think they rule the world. havent welcome their asians (few european) overlords.

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That would still be a problem... they haven't done much good on any endeavor they've been involved in.

This is oft-repeated, however it seems like the board of directors is still rather Euro-centric, save Stephen Elop. Have a look... and their leadership team looks to have a few Americans (perhaps) but not an overwhelming amount.

I think that it's the investors that have shifted to mostly American, but not the leadership. I don't mind admitting I might be wrong...

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what are you talking about?
there is no McKinsey on NOKIA's board :confused:
apart from Flop (who is Canadian as a matter of fact) the only North American seems to be Scardino
well, Kagermann is German, Bengt Holmström is professor @ MIT but Finish, nonetheless, Isabel Marey-Semper is French...
:confused:

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Richard Green still shows on that list as an active member of the directorate :confused:
not very promising.

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They are preparing the groud so that Microsoft will be able to buy nokia without much hassle when it get to the ground. Then they will be able to pressure Android and Apple with a lot of lawsuits and etc.

I think this is it.

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That's cute, but most people prefer facts to name calling. Try it, you might like it.

Yeah, that would be all well and good if you weren't one of the reasons the thread was closed. But you were. So...

Dude, look in the mirror. Getting banned from this site is very difficult. You, however, make it look real easy. Calm down; switch to decaf.

You're losin' it. More focus; less text formatting.

The topic was PC Free, not this "Apple's a useless ripoff" straw man.

Like your last edit, you definitely should've passed on this one.

Cheers!

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with or without NOKIA wp is going to fail. like i posted before, they can manufacture whatever they want, under whatever name they want, as consumers don't buy it, it won't do them any good.

plus trying to scare OEM manufacturers away from Android is certainly not going to help them getting more popular neither with manufacturers nor with potential customers

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In error, I kept saying "he" when regarding McKinsey. It should have said "them".

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One of these days I'm gonna have enough energy for making Community thread about removing coloured fonts option.

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But it makes you look intelligent if you can color code your text.

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Oh, that's the desired effect?

Never knew.

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don't like my posts?
don't read them ¦-)

and getting all upset about the colours isn't exactly flying high, neither

EDIT: also going to have the colours removed from the links?
how about the "adds" on this page? too much colour too, isn't it?

GEEEE, look @ the logo :eek: inacceptable :mad:

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This thread is nothing but a battleground and no way on topic either !!!.

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read my post again! what I meant was they will also go wpsuck. android is also doomed. not because of meego or android is less good but because of gigantic marketing of wpsuck 2012. atleast in west.

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free marketing well you have to be kidding or else your naive. Microsoft is the company who make the rules.. I am sure every sold N9 Nokia has to pay Microsoft for some of its ugly patents (example shitty vfat to make itpossible to "mount" usb in windows)

same goes for ndroid as someone already has stated.

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people will buy wpsuck thats for sure. Most people is just plain stupi and beleive marketing guys. so yes wpsuck will success in western atleast. remeber 80 million EUR on marketing of wpsuck in six month time:(

hell I am starting to sound like danamos and gerbick but there is a difference I will buy N9 and will not buy wpsuck even if that **** success

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geee, not my fault if you have a bad day :-o

i guess you have to be a die hard MacIntosh fan if you resent a reference to your original icon (that looks very much like an Alienware logo...) as an insult :|

pardon the tone, but that was a real great loss...
the whole TMO seems to have gotten a very long way from its original purpose, wait, let me guess... helping Maemo users?
considering the general tendency of the "knowledgeable"ppl around here to send the posters back to RTFM or simply ignore any "dumb" request for help, that's one more reason to shut the whole site down.
but, no, of course, making "factual" comments is NOT welcome, i understand.
no need getting utterly mad again...

yeah, indeed.
what astounded me even more was that last week sometime when BBQ (or whatever his gratuitous ID was...) made several racist posts against patlak i reported them
what happend? nada :mad:

i don't think so
TMO lost it long ago; from helping Maemo users to some sort of elitist club.
but, yes, getting upset & making endless posts about the colours & formats, that really helps, now, doesn't it?

PC free for what? making updates over the air? the whole industry does it, sorry, nothing to get excited about :(
what's still very annoying is that the only way to use a song as a ringtone... is to buy it from iTunes.
you consider this an advantage?
i put the soundtrack of an ATI demo program as a ringtone on my 7650 7 or 8 years ago. used it on the 7710, on the N95 and now on the N900. to this day, whenever i get a phone call, i know it is MY phone ringing... for @#$%*&€³¤ free
is that so difficult to grasp?
no, update over the air doesn't have anything to do with it, indeed :mad:

last edit?
more like my last post...
the admins can go & shuffle their "puritanism" up their @$$es until it hangs out of their throats.
that's about the value of TMO, alas

in which colour would you like that?

hopefully MeeGo.com won't get that popular :rolleyes:
or so popular that it will rise above a little clique of narcissists :(

after spending a few weeks on TMO, yeah, maybe Elop is the best thing that ever happened to NOKIA :(

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My days rockin'! I'm spending it trying to bend the n950 to my will, but thanks for asking.

It's not about me, it's about you. Strutting your sh*t on the internet is meaningless, so why not engage in constructive conversations. Your points are often so clouded with vitriol opinions that who should even give a f*ck. Minimize your trolling.

It's relatively a big deal, but you're not the target audience, so why not give it a rest. We all know how Apple operates; you're not enlightening us.

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you know the rule?
don't reply to TROLLs...
i'll take it that i was on target with some points, nonetheless ¦-)
blaming the messenger isn't making the message any less painful, you know?
but admittedly, it's an easy way to let your anger about the message out.
easier then reflecting about the message, i guess...

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I actually thanked abill_uk. Thats how far down the drain this thread has gone.

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Sure, unless you're trolling for trolls. The internet would be really quite without us troll trollers.

What points? I have nothing to hide on these topics; if you have a question just ask it.

What are you talking about? What message? What pain? Out with it, man! Stop beating around a bush that doesn't exist.

Is your message that Apple is bad? If so, cool, we'll make a note of it.

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Wow. This thread sorta went haywire these last few exchanges.

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I'll go as far as saying last few pages...
Personal attacks, rants, complaints on grammar, typos and greek mythology (wut?)..

Besides, if anyone knows the very subject of the current debate I'm interested :)

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no, Apple isn't a bad company.
i just like to put any ring tone on my phone i like.
and iTunes simply doesn't offer those.
furthermore there is no iTunes for Linux / GNU, thus i couldn't even put my plain dumb MP3s that i got from my CDs with soundKonverter on my phone.
thus, i guess, we have a new topic @ hand... conspiracy between Steve Jobs & Balmer to force users to have windooooz just to be able to install iTunes to update their music collections or download their pictures or movies...
unless one wants to go MacIntosh all the way, of course.

and as opposed to what erendorn alluded to, there wasn't anything personal.

apologizes for whatever it was that upset you.

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Hades was the god of the underworld, eventually the name had grown to mean the underworld too. And Tartarus was a person, eternaly punished.

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@Daneel: we can see that by looking @ the post in question; afraid someone missed a beat?

@erendorn: didn't get your daily dose of gozip from today's news?

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Let's face it. The war is over and Apple won. Be happy, and enjoy corporate democracy

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bad apples ;)

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I agree, it's stupid. And what I'm going to say next is also stupid, but it can be done with any Linux box (router, n8x0, n900, ..., etc.) and an iPod touch with no jail breaking.

Set up a mail server on a Linux box and mail some files to an account that you also set up on the iPod. Done. Sure, your tunes now have to sit in a mailbox, but they're actually on the device and you can play them. But yeah, still stupid.

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Let's face it, the war is over and Apple won. This community is like Galapagos, still unaware of capitulation. Sit back, relax and enjoy corporate democracy:)

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So where is the proof that Elop is a trogan horse ?.

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this is why 11 years old shouldn't be able to open accounts.

easily iSheep.

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I disagree on both accounts. Freedom of choice is ironically what Apple brought to the table with their oft-heralded 1984 commercial.

Yet, 27 years later they have become the so-called corporate masters, attempting to unify all under one banner, their own.

Weird bit o' trivia... at the beginning of their historic "1984" commercial, people were piling into a tube labeled "14". 14th letter of the alphabet = N.

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Stock price.

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Stock price has nothing to do with ELOP. It has to do that the war is over. No time for counteroffensive

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The Niner will turn you into isheep wanna be

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Your style of rhetoric seems familiar. Hmm...