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pablocrossa 2012-04-16 14:23
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by inte (Post 1192619)
I thought whatsapp was using xmmp but with a quite closed and proprietary auth-mechanism?
Is it really that hard to reverse engineer that?
However, Ithink it's worth the efforts since this would also allow to log into whatsapp from any desktop computer as well, which would indeed be pretty cool...
Would you not require a fake IMEI?? That could be problematic unless you use one from an old phone :)

coopere 2012-04-16 16:22
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Norocel (Post 1192442)
@youmeego you definatelly haven' set your phone right, i have push from facebook,gtallk and skype,just go setting and enable push.
I agree with most of the users here,whatsapp is not really that important,i could care less if gets made or not,there are so many better alternatives.
Most important thing: If whatsapp development team did not bother to make an app for us the means they give a ***** about theyr users. It's not just about us meego users keeping in touch with android,ios,symbian users,it's about all getting in touch which for me this a total disrespect for all users not just us meego. That what means to be cross platform,but aparently it is not! I for one I can really live without this app,i can use gtalk and send a picture or video throught e-mail if needed.
Though if taglal takes it's time to make it,then my respect for it's work.
If only gtalk worked all the time. Connection will still timeout and would get 'network error' or it would be in a constant trying to connect loop. it's frustrating

Waynder 2012-04-16 16:24
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
using skype on n900 and n9 for groupchat until whatsapp comes... IF it comes...

still unable to send files or location...

nicodonte 2012-04-16 21:45
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coopere (Post 1192846)
If only gtalk worked all the time. Connection will still timeout and would get 'network error' or it would be in a constant trying to connect loop. it's frustrating
Gtalk works perferct in my N9, never get a network error except on sometimes in video call over 3G.

Arie 2012-04-16 23:16
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nicodonte (Post 1192999)
Gtalk works perferct in my N9, never get a network error except on sometimes in video call over 3G.
I second this.

youmeego 2012-04-17 00:32
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Norocel (Post 1192442)
@youmeego you definatelly haven' set your phone right, i have push from facebook,gtallk and skype,just go setting and enable push.
I agree with most of the users here,whatsapp is not really that important,i could care less if gets made or not,there are so many better alternatives.
Most important thing: If whatsapp development team did not bother to make an app for us the means they give a ***** about theyr users. It's not just about us meego users keeping in touch with android,ios,symbian users,it's about all getting in touch which for me this a total disrespect for all users not just us meego. That what means to be cross platform,but aparently it is not! I for one I can really live without this app,i can use gtalk and send a picture or video throught e-mail if needed.
Though if taglal takes it's time to make it,then my respect for it's work.
do we still get notification when we have logged out of skype on n9/n900?

Waynder 2012-04-17 06:29
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Norocel (Post 1192442)
I agree with most of the users here,whatsapp is not really that important,i could care less if gets made or not,there are so many better alternatives.
really?

please do inform me about some... cuz i cant find another app that allows me to have group chats, shareing location or files within those group chats, ALL IN ONE interface, thats available on android, symbian, iOS, so i can use it with ALL people that i got in my phonebook... its sure not pleasent to ask 6-7 people that i have in that group to have other apps active, just because im not able to do those stuff with in one...

so far i was only able to make group chat using skype, IF starting a group on my PC app...

Waynder 2012-04-17 06:35
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by youmeego (Post 1193058)
do we still get notification when we have logged out of skype on n9/n900?
yup...

also later when you log back in and what to send something to that group, just find it in sent messages...

youmeego 2012-04-17 07:12
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Waynder (Post 1193122)
yup...

also later when you log back in and what to send something to that group, just find it in sent messages...
i didnt mean the offline message, i want to be notified once the skype message is received, and i dont want to run skype im all the time in the background, because doing so will drain battery.

recluse 2012-04-17 07:31
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by youmeego (Post 1193132)
i didnt mean the offline message, i want to be notified once the skype message is received, and i dont want to run skype im all the time in the background, because doing so will drain battery.
Do you even have an N9?
Skype is integrated in to the accounts system, comes with the phone, is always on with push messaging (so doesn't drain battery much). And yes, when a push message is received, it notifies you just like a normal SMS (in fact I believe it's the same app).

bnwg 2012-04-17 07:52
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Waynder (Post 1193121)
really?

please do inform me about some... cuz i cant find another app that allows me to have group chats, shareing location or files within those group chats, ALL IN ONE interface, thats available on android, symbian, iOS, so i can use it with ALL people that i got in my phonebook... its sure not pleasent to ask 6-7 people that i have in that group to have other apps active, just because im not able to do those stuff with in one...

so far i was only able to make group chat using skype, IF starting a group on my PC app...
LINE is another good alternative. It has group chats (more than 10ppl max by whatsapp), sharing locations and media files PLUS voice call over network like skype, ALL IN ONE interface. It's available for android and iOS (don't think symbian gets LINE). And it is free, totally FREE.

LINE also have PC version. It offers browser version for tablet and iPad as well. I tried to use it from browser (only Firefox with iPad agent works) in N9 but it's too buggy it's not use-able.

Honestly I hope LINE could be ported to N9 account system.

youmeego 2012-04-17 08:10
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by recluse (Post 1193142)
Do you even have an N9?
Skype is integrated in to the accounts system, comes with the phone, is always on with push messaging (so doesn't drain battery much). And yes, when a push message is received, it notifies you just like a normal SMS (in fact I believe it's the same app).

i have only n900, but skype didnt alert me of new skype message coming

malkavian 2012-04-17 08:30
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Spot bros ( http://www.spotbros.com ) (web in spanish) is better than whatsapp (better privacy and more functions) but is in beta and only for android and iOS. Other platforms and computer are planed.

G.One 2012-04-17 08:51
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
i think i betr buy an android phone..
as i think whatsapp will come in ages for n900 or may be not !

Jerex 2012-04-17 09:04
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nokix (Post 1186328)
Jerex,

From what I understand you run WhatsApp on an Android emulator on a PC? How do you manage to get the SIM/phone no. to work on the emulator?

Hi nokix,

Really sorry for the late reply, haven't been on TMO recently.

To answer your question, I'm not using an emulator per se, but a build of Android converted for x86 processors. The project's site is www.android-x86.org and I believe it has some official support from Google. I used the stable release of 2.2 Froyo (newer builds are still beta or release candidates).

The PC I'm using is actually a small VAIO P mini laptop (netbook) running Windows 7. I first installed Oracle's VirtualBox software (it's free) before running the Android x86 ISO build within VirtualBox and creating a Virtual Hard Disk partition to install the files directly.

As you know, WhatsApp is very particular about the SIM/Phone No. etc. It won't even let you install if it detects your device doesn't have a SIM/3G module (hence it not being available for tablets). To get around this, I found that a combination of an older version of WA (v2.6.7722), installed on the official Android SDK could get around this.

Once installed you just needed to select the 'activate by phone' option, enter your phone number and WhatsApp would place an automated call to give you the activation code which you proceed to enter into the app and that's it!

WA then actually works within the Android SDK, but since it's slow as hell, I used Titanium Backup Pro to backup the app and restore it on my Android x86 build which is much much faster.

Lastly, using VNC (and OpenSSH for security), I leave my PC running Android x86 on at home and access it from my N900 to use WhatsApp. As I said before, it is by no means perfect (a bit slow and unwieldy to control) but it does work and I've been using it successfully since January.

Hope this is clear for all those who are curious about an alternative solution and apologies in advance for the long, off-topic post in this development thread.

My continued best wishes to tgalal and others for their porting project! And a further appeal for everyone to be patient and calm. If you really can't wait, instead of whining on TMO why not use your energy and try the remote alternative I've described above? ;)

pablocrossa 2012-04-17 15:30
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerex (Post 1193169)
Hi nokix,

Really sorry for the late reply, haven't been on TMO recently.

To answer your question, I'm not using an emulator per se, but a build of Android converted for x86 processors. The project's site is www.android-x86.org and I believe it has some official support from Google. I used the stable release of 2.2 Froyo (newer builds are still beta or release candidates).

The PC I'm using is actually a small VAIO P mini laptop (netbook) running Windows 7. I first installed Oracle's VirtualBox software (it's free) before running the Android x86 ISO build within VirtualBox and creating a Virtual Hard Disk partition to install the files directly.

As you know, WhatsApp is very particular about the SIM/Phone No. etc. It won't even let you install if it detects your device doesn't have a SIM/3G module (hence it not being available for tablets). To get around this, I found that a combination of an older version of WA (v2.6.7722), installed on the official Android SDK could get around this.

Once installed you just needed to select the 'activate by phone' option, enter your phone number and WhatsApp would place an automated call to give you the activation code which you proceed to enter into the app and that's it!

WA then actually works within the Android SDK, but since it's slow as hell, I used Titanium Backup Pro to backup the app and restore it on my Android x86 build which is much much faster.

Lastly, using VNC (and OpenSSH for security), I leave my PC running Android x86 on at home and access it from my N900 to use WhatsApp. As I said before, it is by no means perfect (a bit slow and unwieldy to control) but it does work and I've been using it successfully since January.

Hope this is clear for all those who are curious about an alternative solution and apologies in advance for the long, off-topic post in this development thread.

My continued best wishes to tgalal and others for their porting project! And a further appeal for everyone to be patient and calm. If you really can't wait, instead of whining on TMO why not use your energy and try the remote alternative I've described above? ;)
This is VERY similar to how I run android apps except I encode the stream using VLC to h.264 and send it through the network to a little program I have written that send the input as mouseclicks back to the computer... this is currently the most hassle-less way I know of running android apps on maemo (hassle-less, not best, I know you can dual-boot and whatnot but having to dualboot to run a simple app and go back... not really)

don_falcone 2012-04-17 16:02
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
You do WHAT? :D This whole mess just for running... Android apps?

Dre 2012-04-17 16:16
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by youmeego (Post 1193153)
i have only n900, but skype didnt alert me of new skype message coming
All you need to do, is enable skype in your accounts. It will run in the background and alert you once a message is received

ravent-n900 2012-04-17 16:19
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by G.One (Post 1193166)
i think i betr buy an android phone..
as i think whatsapp will come in ages for n900 or may be not !
buy android just for whatsapp this is insane

n900 great with or w/o whatsapp

pablocrossa 2012-04-17 18:29
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1193349)
You do WHAT? :D This whole mess just for running... Android apps?
Yes, when I got the phone I wanted to try wierd stuff, qemu+wine which is pretty useless :P or any other wierd software patchy thing that ran and this is the way I ran android before I heard about nitdroid which I still have not installed hehe

coopere 2012-04-17 18:45
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Am not too worried about getting whatsapp anymore, when it becomes available, I'll install it. My bro got a windows phone and my cousin's boyfriend has an iphone. They both installed ebuddyxms and also my cousin on her blackberry. So am contented without it, no dire need for it, plus after the first year there's a fee to pay. So am good for now.

slushie 2012-04-18 18:34
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Tgalal tweeted that he'll post a video of WhatsApp later this evening

praveenchand 2012-04-18 21:00
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
thats good news....

damaltor 2012-04-18 21:56
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
awesome. lets hope...

Gandan 2012-04-18 22:52
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
tgalal on twitter:

A #wazapp video is being uploaded at the moment as a response to any doubts concerning the authenticity of this project.


good :)

ammyt 2012-04-18 22:55
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
The drama this thread went into is...unbelievable.

DDH87 2012-04-18 23:18
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Vid is online
http://t.co/77ebuScr
Thnx Tgalal for the vid. Hope everyone will stop complaining about the slow progress.

youmeego 2012-04-18 23:34
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
So, this is not fake then:)

Arie 2012-04-18 23:37
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by youmeego (Post 1194100)
So, this is not fake then:)
Never was ;)

malkavian 2012-04-18 23:40
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Please, now that you have seen it's real, stop writing here, and be patient.

jeherreracm 2012-04-18 23:45
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
The wazapp first video test .... http://youtu.be/T3Er3r8LrCY is amazing ... good @tgalal ....

youmeego 2012-04-19 00:04
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
we have wazapp instead of whatsapp

MhedYaseen 2012-04-19 01:41
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
@tgalal Thanks a lot for this bro.. Hope to see this on my N9 soon..!! :) And big appologies from everyone for doubting you.. Everyone was just curious, specially the ones donated..! Now you gave everyone a reason to believe in you again.. :)

zeus2099 2012-04-19 01:45
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
@tgalal Thanks! u make me the day! i already spread the video and hope u get more donates for the effort.. hope we can see the wazapp soon, particulary in my n900

TMavica 2012-04-19 02:15
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
if he would release the alpha version, i think he will get more donatey

soryuuha 2012-04-19 03:10
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
nice tgalal, its not fake..i rofl..wahahah!

to all haters.

well..haters gonna hate.

TMavica 2012-04-19 03:25
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
tgalal become so famous now, every forum can see his name

weechia 2012-04-19 03:56
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
great man, hope to have the n900 version soon!

youmeego 2012-04-19 04:28
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
some works on the looks of Wazapp are needed, and these works can be assigned to another person in Maemo Talk.

HtheB 2012-04-19 06:39
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Great to see some proof of concept at last :)
The flame war is finally over I hope.

I hope it will have landscape support for N950 users...


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