Originally Posted by piggz (Post 1260961)

My submission is in!

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1260972)

Edit: Oh btw Leon, I have location2sms but no sign of MoGateway just yet. Yes i'm keeping notes ;) Hope it's still being entered :)

Originally Posted by rash.m2k (Post 1261004)

It's likely that my entry will be as close to the deadline as possible!

I am quite proud of the work I have done though! Cross compiled a C++ web service framework in scratchbox (never done ANY cross compiling before), generating C++ XML databindings using the WSDL file and then built the interactions between the QML and the extra Qt I need to write.

All this in my spare time while doing 40+ hours weeks at work.

But building the GUI is a *****, they say QML is easy - but not as easy as it should be, needs a much better WYSISYG editor.

The deadline is 12am UTC (which is 1am 10th Sept for me in the UK).

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1260972)

Plus we have Leon's and helex's too :cool:

Originally Posted by rash.m2k (Post 1261004)

But building the GUI is a *****, they say QML is easy - but not as easy as it should be, needs a much better WYSISYG editor.

Originally Posted by leon.anavi (Post 1260988)

Oh, thank you :)

I have some exiting news about MoGateway: Oytun Şengül from MeeGo Turkey kindly translated it to Turkish so I'll wrap a new deb and shortly after that I'll submit it to the competition :)

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1261503)

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Edit2: A-ha! ajalkane - I caught you watching, now I'm expecting ProfileMatic before too long :D:p

Originally Posted by ajalkane (Post 1261510)

Hehe, I will... but I have still plenty of time to go through it :). And I may get another small application to boost the numbers into the competition before the time runs out.

Originally Posted by paoletto (Post 1261553)

Hei! I'm alive, i thought the deadline was sunday night.

Originally Posted by jonquark (Post 1217716)

As I understand the proposed rules, apps which we've started (even if they aren't in the Ovi store/apps.formeego.org yet) aren't likely to be eligible?

I've a vested interest in that rule being relaxed so I could submit grrok.

At the moment that app (and some others around, aren't "existing community apps" as no finished version exists but they were created after the competition was announced but before submissions were allowed.

Originally Posted by leon.anavi (Post 1260988)

I have some exiting news about MoGateway: Oytun Şengül from MeeGo Turkey kindly translated it to Turkish so I'll wrap a new deb and shortly after that I'll submit it to the competition :)

Originally Posted by jonquark (Post 1261680)

I asked this earlier in the thread but I got different answers from different people....can someone give me a definitive answer?



In my case, I put an alpha version of Grrok on my website shortly before the competition started... but it should be appearing in the Ovi Store "any day now".

It's not really an update to an "existing app" but it's not been developed entirely in the competition timeframe (I was too keen and started after the competition was announced without realising there was going to be a start date in the future).

Which category should I put it in? New app or update?

Originally Posted by leon.anavi (Post 1261682)

Hi All,

I built a new release of MoGateway and submitted it for validation at Nokia Store.

Kojacker should have received my submission of MoGateway to the Network & Communications category.

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1261687)

Your application has fallen into a bit of a grey area. We have no idea when anyone truly starts work on an application, only when the first release comes around. That's why you'll have seen us talking about the 'first release' a lot in earlier posts. Personally, I don't consider sharing a bit of code as the first release but when you have something functionally complete and built and are sharing that then really you pretty much have released software. I don't know a lot about your application, but from my own software development experience an alpha release is something I feel is complete and is going through testing in the view of releasing. In that case, there probably wouldn't be significant enough work done during the competition time frame.

Without knowing further details, I would suggest "Updates.." if there are some new functionality or features added since that alpha release. That's what we'd ask the forum users to judge on.

Originally Posted by caco3 (Post 1261697)

Hmm, that surprises me a bit.
Because for me I understood that the submission time is 3 months, and you can enter any application as new which did not exist before the last competition. I am basing this mainly because it is called "this years competition".

If I understood this wrong, I am sorry and will change my submitted apps to updates, even they did not exist yet at the time of the 2011 competition.

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1261687)

It feels a little unfair but, as you had an alpha version of Grrok on your website before the competition started, I'm afraid that sounds like already released software.

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1261700)

Thanks caco3, you have saved me from sending you an embarrassing email at a later time (I'm making my way through each of the entries to verify details but it's taking time :o )

But I'm glad we can address this now though :) I'm afraid it is for applications released during the time frame of the competition, not for any released since last year's competition - sorry for any surprise and confusion :o

I'm lucky everyone is so honest :)

Originally Posted by jonquark (Post 1261705)

D'oh - thanks for the speedy clarification Kojacker! I'll know for the next Jolla Coding competition :)

Originally Posted by caco3 (Post 1261713)

How ever because I spent a lot of time on them in the last 10 months, I thought they still would be allowed.

Good software development doesn’t just fit into 3 months but is a process.

Originally Posted by caco3 (Post 1261713)

Well, actually I think it is a bit sad, because it means that 2 of my 3 submissions actually are not allowed in the competition because I did not do any work on them in the last 3 months.
How ever because I spent a lot of time on them in the last 10 months, I thought they still would be allowed.

Good software development doesn’t just fit into 3 months but is a process.

Originally Posted by ajalkane (Post 1261730)

I do agree here pretty much personally. In case of those of us who have a family, creating software is quite slow process. An hour or two once in a while. It doesn't fit well into these 3 month "sprints".

Maybe something to consider for next years competition, dunno.

Originally Posted by helex (Post 1261729)

Jonquark, my feelings are with you. I missed the Beginners section at the first coding competition only by a single week. This will always happen, there must be at some point a line.

Originally Posted by caco3 (Post 1261757)

Thank you for your clarifications.
I absolutely have no problems with it.
Thank you in any way for investing so much time into this competition.
Please remove my app BatteryGraph from the competition.
As for my other 2 apps; CacheMe for sure got a major update in the last 3 months.
And I also just checked, the 3th app, MiniBible, also got a not so minor update in mid of July, so it should still fit into the updated category :)


I will update the wiki

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1254576)

Hey jukra, BioPower sounds pretty interesting :) Well, I don't see any reason why it can't take part assuming that it's not Babyphone with a name change or something like that :p You are expected to have done a certain amount of work on your application. But one of the advantages of open source software is that you can build upon libraries and code already out there to develop new and wonderful things. If you're happy enough to outline and be judged on the work you've completed I don't see why it can't be added as a new application.

Originally Posted by jukra (Post 1261789)

Ok, thank you very much! That all is really what I was thinking, too. So I have now completed my entry into the competition by email. Please find the announce thread here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86608 and the BioPower web site here: http://biopower.garage.maemo.org/

Thanks for organizing this great competition! At least I have had much fun while implementing, testing and publishing my very first open source release including setting up the web site, too! :)

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1261746)

You're absolutely right about software development being a process, nobody will disagree with you there caco3. I feel sorry that 2 of your 3 submission will be removed, but I hope I can explain to you a little more about the competition because I think there may have been a misunderstanding.

Originally the competition was set up 3 years ago as i was fed up hearing people complaining there was no apps for the N900. I got sick of hearing it, so I decided to try and do something about it. So the spirit behind the competition was to encourage people to create some new applications and get started with developing for the Maemo platforms. Which is why we brought the rule in about apps released during the competition time frame. It's been that way now for each of the last 3 years. I'm very sorry this wasn't clear to you, but I hope you will understand the reasoning behind the rule a little more now :o


Certainly there is scope to move the competition into one which will take into account applications created throughout the year. At the start of every competition, when we're working things out, we're always fairly open to ideas I think. And if enough people push for something then we do try to accomodate it. So absolutely, please raise it at the start of the next coding competition and let's see what we can do. But obviously there's very little we can do about it 4 days before the close :o

If you think back to when we were discussing the eligibility of submissions and categories, that was really the time to bring this up. For example, we could probably have had a separate category for year round entries if someone wanted to discuss that and I would have backed that as a pretty good idea.

As another example, in previous years we kept the new applications and updates together in the same categories. Because of feedback this year, we have separated the updates into it's own single category. At the same time we also had feedback that only new applications within the time frame should be eligible. So it can be tricky to get the balance right that suits everyone, but we try to get something together that most people will be happy with. :o


lol I still remember that, we try to be a friendly competition but yes sometimes it can be a bit mean :) But just think how that brutal experience helped turn you into the man you are today :p

Truthfully it always feels bad when you can't accommodate a developer or an application. We really want everyone to take part and share in the competition as much as possible. But as helex says, sometimes there's a line. And sometimes that line is fuzzy, we'll do our best to find ways to accept most things, but dates are hard to work around.

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1261793)

Speaking of unique and interesting applications, I notice swinkels is reading the thread.. i wonder how that nyan cat game is coming along! ;)

Originally Posted by draxcp6 (Post 1261242)

I have another problem now.

I have downloaded: Putty, PuttyGen and PageAnt, then created private and public key, private set in putty (and pageant) and sent to garage account public key.

But I am still receiving message "Server refused our key".

Here is how my key looks like:
I have tried to remove new lines, comment, BEGIN-END and I don't know what else I tried, but no matter what, I still receive that message.

Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1261746)

If you think back to when we were discussing the eligibility of submissions and categories, that was really the time to bring this up. For example, we could probably have had a separate category for year round entries if someone wanted to discuss that and I would have backed that as a pretty good idea.

Originally Posted by rfeese (Post 1261948)

Finally did a scratchbox port and now my game seems to be crashing in SDL_Init on the device only. How frustrating! Don't know if I'll have time and energy to figure out what is wrong.

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1261793)

Thanks jukra, yep I can confirm I've already received it - will update the wiki in a second :)

Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 1260738)

kojacker, zehjotkah

This Friday, at 15:00 UTC, we will have a meeting with X-Fade. Please send the details for CC voting to council@maemo.org so we can comment it with him and try to assist if you want to comment about it.

Originally Posted by norayr (Post 1262687)

Any chance that deadline will be deferred?
I noticed the competition event too late (of course my fault) and currently code as much time as I can, but afraid won't do it in time.

Originally Posted by aStrike (Post 1262787)

Hi,
Could you please add my entry for the Coding Competition to the participants table, I am not sure how to, so I really don't want to mess the wiki page up.

Developer: aStrike (Oren B)
Application: Alpha Strike (Fast-paced 3D action shooting game)
Category: Games, Graphics & Multimedia
Current Progress: stable release 100%
Beginner Entry: Y
Platform (MeeGo/Maemo/etc): fremantle (N900), MeeGo planned

Thanks In Advance!

Originally Posted by rfeese (Post 1262205)

Still haven't figured out why my code is exiting while SDL is initializing. Running it inside GDB I get "program exited normally", even when I try disabling the SDL parachute, which seems strange. I have another project using SDL and GLES which is working, so I SHOULD be able to figure it out, in theory.

I will resist the temptation to smash my phone and see if I can get some vacation time tomorrow or something to work on it. I'm busy this weekend so I will have to be finished by tomorrow night.