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sony123 2012-07-11 00:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Morpog (Post 1235576)
As the Jolla name question comes again and again, I decided to photoshop a little bit :D

http://www.abload.de/img/rescuehauaw.png
How about bubbles for Meltemi, since it already sunk under water...

youmeego 2012-07-11 00:45
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any low end phone from jolla to kill stupid nokia

Rider 2012-07-11 00:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Firminator (Post 1235691)
I hope Jolla teams up with some Japanese manufactuers as they have too suffered in this Smartphone war.
Is it only me who is thinking "Huawei" ?

gerbick 2012-07-11 01:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rider (Post 1235718)
Is it only me who is thinking "Huawei" ?
Huawei is Chinese.

Odd_gunnic 2012-07-11 03:10
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Seems prototypes are floating about

http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1341976086

Texrat 2012-07-11 04:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamqpa (Post 1235000)
According to Wall Street Journal, Jolla is a strong player with a number of employers from Nokia's MeeGo team, including chief engineer Marc Dillon and product manager Jukka Eklund .
Clarification on that: Jukka told me he is only acting in an advisory capacity.

sony123 2012-07-11 04:14
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rider (Post 1235718)
Is it only me who is thinking "Huawei" ?
The name in my head begins with an A.... pure speculation of course.

aironeous 2012-07-11 04:29
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by youmeego (Post 1234948)
no ui can be better than swipe on n9. Jolla, it is time to copy, use or license it. Nokia will not sue you:)

i need a pure touch(no button) os with swipe to go back to homescreen. Ipod nano have this basic feature if i am not wrong.

It will be a waste if we never see swipe again.

Btw maemo6 ui concept revealed in 2009 is not too bad.
I really can't see how the patent office can allow a basic gesture like swiping as a proprietary technology because it is so basic. It seems to my logic that to allow this gesture to be owned by a corporation is like an alternate universe where someone was allowed to patent turning a page in a magazine.
On the other hand Microhard is patent trolling android manufacturers with their old lame patents because they are mobile losers so if Nokia is indeed headed into losersland with windows blows 8 then It seems to me likely that these 2 big players will just snatch all your hard work with patent trolling as soon as you become successful.

I don't want to be pessimistic...wait, that's how I'm coming across... I'm just saying beware of the sharks ok! Remember you're on a dingy.


A 3 hour tour, a 3 hour tour.

Metsämies 2012-07-11 05:39
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CEO of JollaMobile was on Finnish morning tv (Huomenta Suomi) and he told that they thought Android and WP also. WP was too limited/closed and as a small player you can't lead with Android. So they want to lead with Meego. He told anything more special (Phone will be made in China where the OEMs are).

somedude 2012-07-11 05:57
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Just saw a tweet from them about 6 hours ago n they are using qneptunea client for n9. Was nice to see them use n9 not as MeeGo app dev exec using iphone .

larsoy 2012-07-11 06:52
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jpfsn (Post 1235645)
@creip on twitter kindly translated an interview with Jussi Hurmola of Jolla earlier today. It is not a long article (link below), but an extract relating to apps is :
According to Finnish magazine IT-Viikko, CEO of Jolla Mobile Jussi Hurmola promises that Jolla has "an interesting answer" to the challenge.
' It is evident that we must face up to this challenge. Our solution is so interesting, though that it is better left for revealing at the same time with our announcements.' Hurmola says cryptically. The CEO is reluctant to address confusion over whether apps from the MeeGo-Harmattan device N9 will work on Jolla's devices.
This is intriguing. Could it be a freestore, where all apps are free, and most of them open? Users would love it, but Jolla themselves would have to make sure QA is solid and that the most needed apps are available.

maverick788us 2012-07-11 07:09
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by www.rzr.online.fr (Post 1233288)
JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones together with the #N9 core professionals and #MeeGo community alumni.

http://identi.ca/tag/jolla

https://twitter.com/jollamobile


{
MeeGo Smartphones and Operating System Find a New Life in Jolla Ltd.
Jolla Ltd. is an independent Finland based smartphone product company which
continues the excellent work that Nokia started with MeeGo. The Jolla team is
formed by directors and core professionals from Nokia’s MeeGo N9 organisation,
together with some of the best minds working on MeeGo in the communities.
Jussi Hurmola, CEO Jolla Ltd.: “Nokia created something wonderful – the world’s
best smartphone product. It deserves to be continued, and we will do that together
with all the bright and gifted people contributing to the MeeGo success story.”
Jolla Ltd. will design, develop and sell new MeeGo based smartphones. Together
with international private investors and partners, a new smartphone using this
MeeGo based OS will be revealed later this year.
Jolla Ltd. has been developing a new smartphone product and the OS since the end
of 2011. The OS has evolved from MeeGo OS using Mer Core and Qt with Jolla
technology including its own brand new UI.
}

Suspense Suspense Suspense

What do you expect ? Any predictions ?

Some ramdom unofficial facts :

* It will be based on upstream projects : merproject core, qt and hopefully GNU/Linux floss meego (the distro is rpm based) ...

* target devices will be upcoming hardware (nokia ones are unsupported officially at least) ...

* We are focusing on smartphones first.

what about creating a wiki page on this project ?
Looks like Nokia might their decision and might think of reacquiring or buying MeeGo team. Which is not possible

dietyyli 2012-07-11 07:19
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by larsoy (Post 1235834)
This is intriguing. Could it be a freestore, where all apps are free, and most of them open? Users would love it, but Jolla themselves would have to make sure QA is solid and that the most needed apps are available.
I think the current rumour is this http://openmobileww.com/blog/2012/06...-meego-update/

danramos 2012-07-11 07:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maverick788us (Post 1235840)
Looks like Nokia might their decision and might think of reacquiring or buying MeeGo team. Which is not possible
Wouldn't it be satisfying and ironic if the new company's MeeGo team does well enough to buy Nokia? :)

maverick788us 2012-07-11 07:24
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by www.rzr.online.fr (Post 1233335)
what makes you think nokia is not involved into the project ? i am sure they have a spinoff program that could benefit to both side ?

I'd be suprised that nokia is not anymore implied technically and financially related projects such as qt or linux ...

btw if nokia becomes an ODM (this is what ms wants them to be right?) then they can provide any devices for any platform integrators ... this is making sense ... else who will produce those items ? probaly an asian company such as htc ? or other vendors from china ?

So far I am just speculating ...
Nokia made a stupid decision by ditching its own platform MeeGo and QT. Understandable its a past, things cannot be reverted back. In fact Windows 8 is a good OS platform.

But Nokia doesn't realize that it is dependent on Microsoft. Windows 7.X has limited hardware support, because of which Nokia could'nt develop high end devices supporting Multi Core and HD resolution (untill windows showed up). Microsoft even ditched nokia by not letting its existing high end device enjoy the flovor of Windows 8. All history.

1) Nokia keep Windows as its mobile OS.

2) But just like Sansung is into multiple OS (Bada a failure, Android and Windows a hit), why doesn't Nokia bring back its MeeGo and QT back into a team and launch Devices with multiple OS in order to bring varieties? (for instance they can use some Lumia Windows handset, create one vairation in which they have same hardware configuration but MeeGo and for low end devices use Symbian) that way it will be much benificial / profitable for Nokia. When the Nokia created a tie up with Microsoft, I don't think Microsoft came up with any term in which Nokia is not supposed to use any other OS,

3) Nokia can use Lumia to compete with Samsung Omin series in windows race (and Nokia will turn out to be a clear winner). They can use MeeGo devices to compete with Samsung Android devices and Symbion to compete with Bada devices.

mariusmssj 2012-07-11 08:16
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Interview with Jussi Hurmola, CEO of JollaMobile [In English]

jamqpa 2012-07-11 08:20
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Next day, next translation :)

This one is from M&M (Markkinointi & Mainonta) translated to english Marketing & Advertising

http://www.marmai.fi/uutiset/jolla+r...pankin/a821760

Jolla exploded the mediabank

Jolla, which is continuing to develop MeeGo phones, has received a great deal of international media attention. Company consists of former Nokia employers and their goal is to bring two new smartphones to the market within current year.

Jolla came to public last saturday on Twitter and after that companys plans have been posted widely in domestic media and in addition widely in international media, including Reuters, The Wall Street Journal and TechCrunch, and also in other major international technology publications.

"I didn't sleep for 30 hours after the announcement we made on Twitter, as phone has been ringing all the time", President and CEO Jussi Hurmola said on Tuesday to M & M.

The company has tried to nurture suppliers and consumers desire for knowledge diligently giving interviews and communicating with Twitter.

Jolla Twitter followers exceeded the 8000 limit on Wednesday morning. The company did not wish to reveal the details yet, but plans to pledge so far, including information about the phone manufacturers and application ecosystem. Twitter-people wants to be among the first, when the company says more about the context, latest at the launch of their product .

The company has harnessed people interested in MeeGo to come along with product development by collecting suggestions on Twitter under hashtag #jollaspec.

bergie 2012-07-11 08:57
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Tomi Ahonen on Jolla:

Quote:
If you are an investor looking for Tomi's particular insights into what is below the radar and can become mightly big soon, like say my stories here of Flirtomatic or Layar or BookIt or Qustodian in the past, here is another very strong early stage startup in mobile, someone whose pedigree is platinum and whose management team is titanium. This is one handset maker, smartphone maker, who seems like a very promising investment. Please consider them and contact them if you have an interest in joining their growth adventure.

Jolla is so fresh, they don't even have a website yet. You can follow their tweets as @jollamobile and they have a Linked In page as Jolla. I hereby openly pledge my support for the full team of Jolla, this is a beautiful flower growing from the bigger economic distress that happened at Nokia. Now grab the oars, start rowing. Raise the little sail, Lets have Jolla lead us onto the new digital sea of Mer and bring us magnificent smartphones soon. Tsemppia Jollalaiset! I am with you!

Dave999 2012-07-11 09:03
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Tomi Ahonen is a one man-anti-nokia-troll-army.

Who doesent support jolla?

qwazix 2012-07-11 09:20
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one-man-anti-elop troll army, read his blog entry when elop took over. Hardly anti-nokia

http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...for-nokia.html

stickymick 2012-07-11 09:23
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Hope these guys pull it off. Strange that Nokia have pledged to support them in such a big way, (giving them a bagful of MeeGo patents + financial backing). Could they be hoping Jolla to be a life-line if everything goes mammaries skyward?
If they can get a device or two on the shelves this year, then that'll be my preferred upgrade path.

Slightly off topic- Couldn't Jolla Mobile be the new host for Maemo.org?- Just a wild suggestion.

Dave999 2012-07-11 09:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1235888)
one-man-anti-elop troll army, read his blog entry when elop took over. Hardly anti-nokia

http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...for-nokia.html
done that...elop is a part of nokia.

OVK 2012-07-11 09:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1235888)
one-man-anti-elop troll army, read his blog entry when elop took over. Hardly anti-nokia

http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...for-nokia.html
Yes. I think he loved the old Nokia.

Back to Jolla. If they are really aiming for two separate phones: excellent news! One size does not fit for all.

lma 2012-07-11 10:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1235845)
Wouldn't it be satisfying and ironic if the new company's MeeGo team does well enough to buy Nokia? :)
It would be, but why would they want to? What assets does Nokia still possess that are desirable if you are not a patent troll?

att 2012-07-11 10:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lma (Post 1235905)
It would be, but why would they want to? What assets does Nokia still possess that are desirable if you are not a patent troll?
Maybe some or all of Nokia's patents to protect against Microsoft, Apple and Co.

Dave999 2012-07-11 10:10
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Hey wait a second. what planet are yo from? Jolla buy nokia?

they are a start up! announced a few days ago. why not speculare they will buy. apple, micrsoft and google why you are at it. this tread get better and better. LOL

tulsidaskhan99 2012-07-11 10:12
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Interview of the ceo of Jolla Mobile
http://mobilesguruji.in/2012/07/11/i...-jolla-mobile/

mikecomputing 2012-07-11 10:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1235845)
Wouldn't it be satisfying and ironic if the new company's MeeGo team does well enough to buy Nokia? :)
LOL Well I think they strongness may be the fact they are small. To me it is more and more obvious that Nokia was to big/bloated to come up with new cool stuff.

same goes for Mcrosoft and probadly also google in longer run..

but yes it would atleast be cool if they sold better than MicroNokia smartphone division :D

helihyv 2012-07-11 10:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1235862)
From the above interview: The separate geek device was a misinterpretation by an earlier interview. What they had actually said was that there will be a consumer device with developer mode in it.

att 2012-07-11 10:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1233908)
However, I'd like to ask one question: How would you guys like the community to look around this?
I think that it would be nice if Jolla could continue to offer devices to the developers before the official street date for normal customers. It could be improved by offering the devices to the larger pool of developers than Nokia did. Special pricing can be applied like before or only for part of the people but more important is that devices are more broadly available than before.

Jolla could also appoint a liaison that would work to develop and activate community relations. It should be his/her full time job.

ste-phan 2012-07-11 10:55
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Keeping money aside is easy these days.

-Nokia laying off people along with Pureview 808 introduction
-Jolla hope colouring the far horizon

If there was some kind of kickstarter.com page for Jolla MeeGo , the hardware project or both I would be hapilly dumping cash on it.

Any idea to boost this w/o undermining openness?

mikecomputing 2012-07-11 11:37
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I think we have to clarify some rumors regulary to get rid of stupid rumors on the net:

1. Jolla is not Nokia company
2. Jukka Eklund is not working at Jolla(But he should have all damn crediting for he started the twitter success for jollamobile :)
3. There will NOT be two devices. ONE is in the pipeline so far. (See interview below)
4. There is not any Nokia patent moved to Jolla LTD
5. Nokia does not pay this company more than everyone else. However Nokia give some upstart money to people theyr fired if they starts new companys.
6. There is NO sign that Jolla is Nokias "planB"

http://www.intomobile.com/2012/07/11...ext-available/

mikecomputing 2012-07-11 11:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dietyyli (Post 1235844)
Probadly not. It would hurt more than give... Again if you want 1000000 apps go get an Android.

This is different and IMHO they SHOULD be different not followers...

dietyyli 2012-07-11 11:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by helihyv (Post 1235923)
From the above interview: The separate geek device was a misinterpretation by an earlier interview. What they had actually said was that there will be a consumer device with developer mode in it.
Jolla needs to set up a website with faq ASAP to stop these misinterpretations.

Dave999 2012-07-11 11:51
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You are trolling on a level I didnt thought was possible. Simply no facts... Or reason from none of you ;)

Crowd trolls... I salut you.

Croufsourcing is old. The latest is crowd trolling. :)

The whole crowd sinks dealer and dealer and become more stupid for every post.

When shall the madness end?

Zoxir 2012-07-11 12:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dietyyli (Post 1235959)
Jolla needs to set up a website with faq ASAP to stop these misinterpretations.
I'm gonna laugh really hard if this Jolla thing turns out to be someone trolling on an epic level.

mikecomputing 2012-07-11 12:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoxir (Post 1235969)
I'm gonna laugh really hard if this Jolla thing turns out to be someone trolling on an epic level.
Maybe theyr contracted by Elop too fool us all....

Dave999 2012-07-11 12:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoxir (Post 1235969)
I'm gonna laugh really hard if this Jolla thing turns out to be someone trolling on an epic level.
LOL... Nice idea :D

That would surly be a lesson for a few trolls here.

But at the same time. Jolla is needed. Just not the crowd trolling.

Naranek 2012-07-11 12:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1233937)
Just repeating .. I'd like to ask one question: How would you guys like the community to look around Jolla SW/HW etc?
You remember the old Internet Tablet Talk? That's how :) And this is great news!

Zoxir 2012-07-11 13:36
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1235970)
Maybe theyr contracted by Elop too fool us all....
In a few months when Jolla will be more valuable than Nokia I can see Elop moving there as a CEO and starting all over with his burning platforms BS


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