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volt 2012-05-11 23:07

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
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Originally Posted by PMaff (Post 1205177)
Care to provide the source for that?

Kinda a pain to find on a tab but here you go:

http://www.slashgear.com/ipads-less-...28SlashGear%29

Lumiaman 2012-05-12 00:04

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Time to buy Nokia stock

rm42 2012-05-12 00:05

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
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Originally Posted by volt (Post 1205509)
Kinda a pain to find on a tab but here you go:

http://www.slashgear.com/ipads-less-...28SlashGear%29

Volt,

I followed your signature by mistake. Very cool!

daperl 2012-05-12 06:28

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1205522)
Time to buy Nokia stock

Out of toilet paper?

Cue 2012-05-12 08:06

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
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Originally Posted by volt (Post 1205509)
Kinda a pain to find on a tab but here you go:

http://www.slashgear.com/ipads-less-...28SlashGear%29

I'm going to predict this will not convert to the same marketshare as the survey (that's my prediction which you can come back to), I think once they find out their x86 programs won't run on them most will change their minds. Most the people I know who haven't bought an iPad or Android tablet already say it's because it's not really a productive tool like a laptop so they see no need to.

The general populace is very confused about what a Windows 8 tablet means. To them they envisage an iPad but running their favourite x86 program and few people realise that WoA is going to be different, essentially the same as an iPad. When I tell them that WoA is different they seem puzzled, I then tell them about UMPCs and that these exist already but have poor battery life, they seem intrigued, when I show them my Q1 and tell them I got it in 2006 they look at me in shock and ask me what it is. The poor battery life brings them back down though. What the general public expects is different to what they are going to get. The general public expects it to be an x86 iPad with the same battery performance as an iPad. They expect a work productive iPad with all the apps they are used to seeing on their laptop. They essentially expect something for nothing; a breakthrough with no compromise. They are going to be disappointed.

PMaff 2012-05-12 10:30

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
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Originally Posted by volt (Post 1205509)
Kinda a pain to find on a tab but here you go:

http://www.slashgear.com/ipads-less-...28SlashGear%29

Thanks.
That's what I suspected:
"The method in which the survey was conducted as well as the survey size were not detailed" :rolleyes:

There seem to be some strange "connections":
"In der Zeit vor Microsoft war Daniel Moschin 8 Jahre im Marketing von Procter & Gamble tätig, sowohl in der Schweiz als auch im europäischen Ausland, gefolgt von 3 Jahren bei der Boston Consulting Group in der Strategieberatung sowie 2 Jahren als General Manager von jobpilot/monster.ch in der Schweiz."
http://www.microsoft.com/switzerland...elMoschin.aspx

Lumiaman 2012-05-12 11:44

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1205564)
Out of toilet paper?

Out of impartial judgment?

danramos 2012-05-12 12:31

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1205635)
Out of impartial judgment?

http://pleco.org/heh/irony.jpg
Nokia stock has been performing so spectacularly over the long term (hell, even short-term) enough for you to criticize that he's lacking impartiality for that comment? heh

jotoco 2012-05-12 12:52

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On the topic of iPads and Windows 8 tablets and productivity.

I bought an Android Galaxy Tab thinking it would be a productive tool. I though wrong and it is a mere toy. My old symbian phones are more akin to a productive tool than any Android tablet out there.

It lacks TOO MUCH. Multitask, outlook integration a decent office tool, a lack of a decent Cad app (it has to convert through AutoDesk website, I don't have high speed internet in the middle of a construction site), lack of decent word editing software.

It is but a toy. for games and videos and webbrowsing.


iPad is no different. The lack of multi-tasking just kill it for me.

For example, on Android, If I load a video on Youtube and then decide I need to adjust brightness, I have to go back to home to pull down the notification bar and when I return to browser it just lost my pre-loaded video...... this killed it for me and I got hid of the tablet in 2 weeks.

Now, x86 windows 8 tablets interests me. If the battery life is more than 4 hours, It should be enough for me to be a productive tool. I can use it for the morning, then swap the battery during lunch and use it the rest of the day.

The thing is, it needs grown up software, not kid's apps.

Things like Office, AutoCAD, true Multi-task, true and good file explorer, keyboard support, mouse support, file transfer freedom (it's absurd I need to list this... both Android and iOS need third-party apps to do it....), more than SD memory support (real Hard Drive with multiple tens of gigs) and stuff.



If Nokia launches a x86 win8 tablet I will probably buy it over other makers. If it is just another ARM toy, then I won't bother.

zimon 2012-05-12 13:03

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
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Originally Posted by jotoco (Post 1205654)
The lack of multi-tasking just kill it for me.

For example, on Android, If I load a video on Youtube and then decide I need to adjust brightness, I have to go back to home to pull down the notification bar and when I return to browser it just lost my pre-loaded video...... this killed it for me and I got hid of the tablet in 2 weeks.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...rbrowser&hl=en


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