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aironeous 2013-05-14 01:26
Re: Jolla Sailfish Is stunning! Now on video!
 
According to wikipedia

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On December 10, 2012, ST-Ericsson announced that STMicroelectronics will leave the joint venture after a transition period making Ericsson the full owner of the Company.[5]

On December 20, 2012, Ericsson announced that they will not buy the remaining 50% stake that STMicroelectronics held. The future for the company therefore remains uncertain.[6]
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Also
Nova A9540 cancelled
NovaThor L9540 cancelled
NovaThor L8540 cancelled
NovaThor L8580 cancelled

So what is the Jolla phone going to use?

Also here is jolla weibo http://www.weibo.com/jollaofficial

Also alternative for previous posted GMIC video of Marc
http://v.qq.com/page/v/a/8/v0012qi03a8.html
or
http://www.jollausers.com/2013/05/wa...ith-new-icons/

Also is this some pics snapped at GMIC of Chinese Sailfish? They seem to be indicating something about the icons.
http://android.pandaapp.com/news/051...l#.UZGWOkmsqk0

m4r0v3r 2013-05-14 01:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1343406)
Many devs were unwilling to commit (any) dev time to porting existing Qt based applications for the N9 for a number of reasons, the N9 Stillbirth being one of them. Issues with the Nokia SDK build machine, the absolute SHITE state of the nokia app store and hopeless distribution system, not to mention the wait for payments.....
Add to that, a complete lack of advertising for the platform and absolutely NO incentives by Nokia, and there's why.

It's not a matter of hate for ACL (a few purists excluded) but genuine interest and concern for the means of integration with the core OS and UX, which are all valid.

ACL (like Android Player for BB10) is another tool and provides a little bit of leverage for any fence sitters who may be holding back on purchasing because they can't publicly distribute a photo of some stirfry they bought from a street vendor in Bangkok.....
That last bit you say like hardly any real applications will be missing, when I saw real I mean actual useful applications. But we'll see, sure it'll more likely then not encourage lazy devs but everything comes with a pro and con, the end user shouldn't care so much because as long as the app works they can't complain and devs get to write in whatever they please

onethreealpha 2013-05-14 01:51
Re: Jolla Sailfish Is stunning! Now on video!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1343410)
That last bit you say like hardly any real applications will be missing, when I saw real I mean actual useful applications. But we'll see, sure it'll more likely then not encourage lazy devs but everything comes with a pro and con, the end user shouldn't care so much because as long as the app works they can't complain and devs get to write in whatever they please
Mate, I'm not saying anything. I don't represent Jolla and can only speculate on what Jolla's Sailfish OS based hardware will ship with.
I emphasise Jolla's device and not any other OEM or vendor device that may or may not ship with Sailfish OS.
As for missing applications. define "real" applications.
your concept and mine may be entirely different.
From demonstration builds, it would appear that SNS (FB, twitter et al) are already baked in, along with a browser, media player and email client of some sort. I have glimpsed a terminal app and a number of games as well.
as for other applications, you need to remember that Mer is based on Meego. Meego OBS is still seeing a lot of action, primarily by Mer and Sailfish contributors as well as apps and revisions from the the broader community (including Maemo and Meego Devs).
it's safe to say that the broader community and even most who are already building and developing on the SDK don't have any clear direction yet as to how apps will be distributed, but i have no doubt that will come in due course.
perhaps you could start a thread detailing which apps you would like to see come to Sailfish?
On that alone, one could then start contacting the devs to encourage them to port/build accordingly

aironeous 2013-05-14 02:09
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Some Chinese GMIC coverage. Plug this url
http://www.pingwest.com/selfish-os-j...new-ecosystem/

into google translate http://translate.google.com/

Also don't know if this was posted yet
Wayland utilizing Android GPU drivers on glibc based systems, Part 2 <---- lots of technical terms

Jordi 2013-05-14 03:51
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We do not know which chipset they are using but they stated in March:

jalyst 2013-05-14 03:54
Re: Jolla Sailfish Is stunning! Now on video!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1343406)
It's not a matter of hate for ACL (a few purists excluded) but genuine interest and concern for the means of integration with the core OS and UX, which are all valid.
Perhaps you've missed some of the earlier posts in this thread...
There's disdain for a ACL being part of the equation from quite a few users, some of them high-profile/respected members.
I can see their point, but I still don't 100% agree with their logic...

Quote:
Originally Posted by aironeous (Post 1343413)
Also don't know if this was posted yet
Wayland utilizing Android GPU drivers on glibc based systems, Part 2 <---- lots of technical terms
I was going to post that but figured it'd be incomprehensible for most users here, I know it was largely for me :)

Dave999 2013-05-14 04:17
Re: Jolla Sailfish Is stunning! Now on video!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1343401)
Marc Dillon answers: Why Jolla?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXqS8MbMFVU


Jolla's Marc Dillon on QWERTY smartphones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ0btrtQ5Fc





This is great news!


Edit:
The whole interview will be online tomorrow (Tuesday)
This sounds great but I doubt kolla have the guts to do it :(

jalyst 2013-05-14 04:30
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I hope they don't, unless it's some kind modular qwerty keyb tech, better than what Surface does ideally.

onethreealpha 2013-05-14 04:44
Re: Jolla Sailfish Is stunning! Now on video!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1343421)
Perhaps you've missed some of the earlier posts in this thread...
There's disdain for a ACL being part of the equation from quite a few users, some of them high-profile/respected members.
I can see their point, but I still don't 100% agree with their logic...



I was going to post that but figured it'd be incomprehensible for most users here, I know it was largely for me :)
purists :rolleyes:

this is a part of Carsten Munk's amazing work around libhybris. great potential for utilisation of existing android stuff in a non android environment (& vice verse)

jalyst 2013-05-14 05:17
Re: Jolla Sailfish Is stunning! Now on video!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1343424)
purists :rolleyes:
They do have some good points, for me though, their total argument just doesn't add up.

Quote:
this is a part of Carsten Munk's amazing work around libhybris. great potential for utilisation of existing android stuff in a non android environment
That much I know... :)


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