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sherifnix 2008-03-10 19:43
Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 152981)
Give that man a prize!!! :D
What do most people do with their tablet? Browse, Email, Play Games, Remote Login, Podcasts, Videos and Music?

Isn't that what these devices do, in one form or another? iPhone stays connected, iPod hops on Wifi. N810 Wifi/Tether and Nxx0 WiMax stays connected.

They are fighting for the same dollars, with the SDK now released. Easy distribution is definitely the way to go with mobile devices. As long as Apple actually moves with the market this time, I think they have a winner on their hands.

Its just two different means to the same end. One is a mess, and one is with polish and focus.

johnkzin 2008-03-11 02:03
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Meh. I'll get an iPhone or iTouch when it has a physical keyboard. No sooner.

sondjata 2008-03-11 02:19
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Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 153283)
Meh. I'll get an iPhone or iTouch when it has a physical keyboard. No sooner.
Soooo that would be never....

;-)

sherifnix 2008-03-11 02:30
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Originally Posted by sondjata (Post 153291)
Soooo that would be never....

;-)
Hehe :) The N810 is a sweet design. Once they stuff new hardware in it, I imagine I will have a better opinion of it. The tearing and craziness in the current models just drives me batty. So much potential...

They can improve the keyboard a little, give us better media playback (read: Arm Cortex) and it will be a real contender.

asqwasqw 2008-03-11 03:26
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that and all the drivers that one might want...

Moby 2008-03-11 09:26
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I have no mac hardware to install the iphone SDK on, so its of no use to me.

anidel 2008-03-11 09:39
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Originally Posted by tabletrat (Post 152072)
Just a clarification. Cocoa stems from NextStep/OpenStep, which comes from next. Carbon comes from the old Macintosh toolkit.
There is almost no relationship between cocoa and carbon, in fact it is actually hard to bridge between them - they are two completely disimilar frameworks, programmed with different languages purely there to maintain compatibility with older software.
The iPod cannot use carbon, it only has cocoa.
You're right.
Cocoa stems from NeXT directly and Carbon was just used to help migration from OS 9 to OS X.

anidel 2008-03-11 09:44
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Originally Posted by sherifnix (Post 152033)
Nokia likely worked on the 770 for a year or 2 before it was released as well, in addition to taking everything from linux and GTK. So we're 3 to 5 years into Tablet OS development too. Its still a mess!
But I still don't think you can fairly compare Maemo team agains the iPhone team based on how many years they worked on their products.

anidel 2008-03-11 09:57
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Originally Posted by stjuste (Post 152832)
We really shouldn't be comparing these two devices.
Well the thread creator did want to compare the two devices.
Anyway you're right, two totally different devices that do not compete, in my opinion, at all.
The iPhone is a phone, the IT is not.
The iPod touch is a media player, the IT is not.
This should be enough.

The iPhone is for Mac users, the IT is for the rest of us.

I am both a Mac user and non-Mac user.

So, now, I don't know which one I should love :)

EDIT: oh, texrat already prized you :)

sherifnix 2008-03-11 15:01
Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by anidel (Post 153404)
Well the thread creator did want to compare the two devices.
Anyway you're right, two totally different devices that do not compete, in my opinion, at all.
The iPhone is a phone, the IT is not.
The iPod touch is a media player, the IT is not.
This should be enough.

The iPhone is for Mac users, the IT is for the rest of us.

I am both a Mac user and non-Mac user.

So, now, I don't know which one I should love :)

EDIT: oh, texrat already prized you :)
Actually, the OP didn't mention the tablets at all in the first post :) I focused on the SDK for many posts but I got baited into defending the iPhone again!


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