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yerga 2009-03-06 22:51
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 269506)
is there i way to organize applications systematically (like the well-established menu/submenu-structure) so you don't have to scroll planlessly through an unsorted list? having 50+ items in the menu and no way to group them would be quite a challenge. are the blue "example"-entries folders?
I think so, though I haven't tested it.

I know two things that could be referent to this:

* A new property in the .desktop files: X-Maemo-Category (for example in the control-panel this property is Main).
* maemo-select-menu-location is deprecated now, and it does nothing.

benny1967 2009-03-07 11:26
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
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Originally Posted by yerga (Post 269522)
I know two things that could be referent to this:

* A new property in the .desktop files: X-Maemo-Category (for example in the control-panel this property is Main).
* maemo-select-menu-location is deprecated now, and it does nothing.
X-Maemo-Category sounds promising. it'd interesting to know, though, why the regular "Categories" wasn't used. there's probably something that X-Maemo-Category does differently.

yerga 2009-03-07 12:05
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 269578)
X-Maemo-Category sounds promising. it'd interesting to know, though, why the regular "Categories" wasn't used. there's probably something that X-Maemo-Category does differently.
I think with the new property in the .desktop files it's more freedesktop compliant than with the old system. If there is other technical reasons to use it, I don't know (yet).

benny1967 2009-03-07 12:19
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
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Originally Posted by yerga (Post 269582)
I think with the new property in the .desktop files it's more freedesktop compliant than with the old system. If there is other technical reasons to use it, I don't know (yet).
thats what i meant: it's cool because it looks a lot like the freedesktop-standard. but: there has to be a reason why they didn't use the real freedesktop-property in the first place. maybe you can only use one X-Maemo-Category (which would make sense in the context of such a device) whereas the regular freedesktop-property "categories" is designed to accept a list of items. is that it? is X-Maemo-Category restricted to one value?

qgil 2009-03-10 08:43
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
Autobuilder for Fremantle now available. If you have packages uploaded in Diablo extras-devel please follow the discussion in maemo-developers since they might be uploaded automatically to the Fremantle extras-devel repo (and see how many of them build).

Also, I have started a list of Fremantle early ports, trying to offer the most relevant/illustrative link for each of them. Many point to posts to this very same thread. :)

Also good to see that Fremantle app news and screenshots are starting to spread: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/n...to-maemo-5.ars

pelago 2009-03-10 12:11
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
Does anyone know how portrait/landscape mode will work (see http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_roadmap/Fremantle which links to https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=644)? Will there be a 'default' or 'preferred' mode? With other mobile devices, portrait is the default mode.

How will dialogs work in portrait? The big OK button on the right-hand side will take up even more room in portrait, so do they automatically move to the bottom of the dialog or similar?

ragnar 2009-03-10 14:12
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
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Originally Posted by pelago (Post 270420)
Does anyone know how portrait/landscape mode will work (see http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_roadmap/Fremantle which links to https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=644)? Will there be a 'default' or 'preferred' mode? With other mobile devices, portrait is the default mode.

How will dialogs work in portrait? The big OK button on the right-hand side will take up even more room in portrait, so do they automatically move to the bottom of the dialog or similar?
Like Quim says, "Portrait mode will be supported at a platform level in Fremantle, in addition to the usual and default landscape mode. Note that this doesn't mean that all applications will have portrait mode automatically."

Landscape is the default mode, as previously. Applications can provide portrait mode, if it is necessary. Dialogs do look different in portrait, as far as I remember.

pelago 2009-03-10 14:21
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
Thanks, I should have read the bug more closely to see that landscape was the default. It would be good if developers were encouraged to support portrait, at least, e.g. with a style guide giving help about how to lay out apps in the different orientations.

Does anyone have any portrait screenshots, esp. with dialogs?

mikkov 2009-03-14 20:17
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
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Maybe not so interesting, but here's some screenshots of Leafpad running in Fremantle

qole 2009-03-14 20:53
Re: Maemo 5 Alpha SDK released
 
mikkov: Interesting how the drop-down menu looks mis-aligned, and "Find and Replace" goes outside the button. I wonder why?


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