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Laughing Man 2009-11-08 00:36

Re: N900 Thickness
 
Actually Step 5. =P

bugelrex 2009-11-08 00:53

Re: N900 Thickness
 
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Originally Posted by Ovek (Post 368478)
I don't think Nokia expects the n900 sales to be earth shattering brilliant, remember its "only" step 4... ;)

Its painfully obvious that Symbian cannot compete in 2009, especially after that POS N97. I see Maemo as their last chance before Nokia meet the same fate Palm did with the Palm OS (competitors eating their lunch. Eg Manufacturers going with Android, iphone, Pre)

Maemo success will be measured by it sales, not by the number of fanboys jerking off.

Anyway, now that I only paid $408 + tax (from the Dell sale, Bing CB + 2% creditcard CB) and not $650 + tax, I'm willing to overlook the flaws of thickness and possible battery life. Those who pay $650 have every right to nitpick.

Bratag 2009-11-08 01:07

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Originally Posted by bugelrex (Post 368496)
Its painfully obvious that Symbian cannot compete in 2009, especially after that POS N97. I see Maemo as their last chance before Nokia meet the same fate Palm did with the Palm OS (competitors eating their lunch. Eg Manufacturers going with Android, iphone, Pre)

Maemo success will be measured by it sales, not by the number of fanboys jerking off.

Anyway, now that I only paid $408 + tax (from the Dell sale, Bing CB + 2% creditcard CB) and not $650 + tax, I'm willing to overlook the flaws of thickness and possible battery life. Those who pay $650 have every right to nitpick.

No they don't see we have this thing called free will. Unless someone is standing behind you with a gun forcing you to purchase the device, you make the decision all by yourself, like a big boy. You choose to take the risk it might not be the device you are looking for and you choose to pay for the device, be it $650 or $6.50. That's called being an adult, you get to wear the big boy pants and occasionally you crap in them.

texaslabrat 2009-11-08 01:07

Re: N900 Thickness
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 368479)
Actually Step 5. =P

No, actually step 4.

somedude 2009-11-08 01:11

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yep step 4 of 5.

Fargus 2009-11-08 01:18

Re: N900 Thickness
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by God (Post 363819)
Well excuse me if I'm rude, but anyone who doesn't use headphones is being rather dumb.

1: it's not healthy to have that radiation next to your ear all the time(especially people who use it A LOT).

2: That's what headphones are there for, so you don't have to hold the damn phone all the time & end up with a "sore arm".

sigh.

Regarding the first point: majority of radiation on most phones transmits away from the face of the phone. Putting a wired earpiece in your ear is actually the same as sticking an aerial directly into your ear (bypassing a large portion of the skull that might shield a bit) so the point of safety is debatable.

How many people end up with a sore ear though when they catch the cord on something?

Finally, if you leave a cell phone on and stand in a contained space with no coverage (elevator or metro) then the phone effectively turns the place into a microwave hunting for a cell mast: bit academic then.

Fargus 2009-11-08 01:29

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Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 364644)
That might be because you kep your cellphone down there.

Imagine the disappointment of the lady fooled by your codpiece? You'd better have some good games installed on those phones!

That's it: N900 is the male version of the wonderbra!

Now, how long before Twitter starts up about that? lol

texaslabrat 2009-11-08 01:31

Re: N900 Thickness
 
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Originally Posted by Fargus (Post 368511)
Regarding the first point: majority of radiation on most phones transmits away from the face of the phone. Putting a wired earpiece in your ear is actually the same as sticking an aerial directly into your ear (bypassing a large portion of the skull that might shield a bit) so the point of safety is debatable.

How many people end up with a sore ear though when they catch the cord on something?

Finally, if you leave a cell phone on and stand in a contained space with no coverage (elevator or metro) then the phone effectively turns the place into a microwave hunting for a cell mast: bit academic then.

Well as long as we are being pedantic and all..how many people do you see using wired headphones/headsets these days for voice communication? Maybe it's different where you live, but I can't even remember the last time I did. Bluetooth ftw: eliminates both the "caught wire" and the "aerial in your ear canal issues".

"But wait!" you might say "bluetooth still emits radiation!" Yes, it does..but it is orders of magnitude less than the cell radio (power efficiency is one of it's main reasons for existence, after all) and is not much higher than the environmental background levels you would experience in a conference room where everyone has a crackberry in their hand (a typical bluetooth headset SAR is on the order of 0.001 watts/kg at the ear vs 1.19 watts/kg for the iphone 3G when held to the ear).

Fargus 2009-11-08 01:40

Re: N900 Thickness
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by texaslabrat (Post 368517)
Well as long as we are being pedantic and all..how many people do you see using wired headphones/headsets these days for voice communication? Maybe it's different where you live, but I can't even remember the last time I did. Bluetooth ftw: eliminates both the "caught wire" and the "aerial in your ear canal issues".

"But wait!" you might say "bluetooth still emits radiation!" Yes, it does..but it is orders of magnitude less than the cell radio (power efficiency is one of it's main reasons for existence, after all) and is not much higher than the environmental background levels you would experience in a conference room where everyone has a crackberry in their hand (a typical bluetooth headset SAR is on the order of 0.001 watts/kg at the ear vs 1.19 watts/kg for the iphone 3G when held to the ear).

As we are talk pedant issues: the original post mentioned wired in the first point and moved onto bluetooth later. As for the number of people: on trains into and around London there are huge numbers, mainly those with music on their phones. This tends to include large numbers of iPhone users so some here might argue that proves the point about dumb though!

The whole issue is really daft though as there is so much electromagnetic radiation in european cities at least that a passive radar system has been proven to work feeding off it. Anyone that seriously thinks sticking their phoone in a jacket is going to save them seriously needs a dose of cynasism. Admittedly it might lower the chance of localised issues.

cb474 2009-11-08 01:56

Re: N900 Thickness
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fargus (Post 368522)
As we are talk pedant issues: the original post mentioned wired in the first point and moved onto bluetooth later.

The whole issue is really daft though as there is so much electromagnetic radiation in european cities at least that a passive radar system has been proven to work feeding off it. Anyone that seriously thinks sticking their phoone in a jacket is going to save them seriously needs a dose of cynasism. Admittedly it might lower the chance of localised issues.

I agree about the point that putting a phone in a jacket probably doesn't help.

But the first point, I don't think is right. My understanding is that the electromagnetic radition is most powerful (and harmful) within a very small space near it's source. In the case of a cell phone, this is a sphere about six inches in radius. So the eletromagnetic radition emitted from other further away sources (and beaming all over us from space for that matter) is not of the same nature, nor bears with it the same safety concerns.


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