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mrt 2010-06-24 08:05

Re: how to download maps for mappero n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gm_w (Post 726730)
The manage map dialog download whats on your screen basically. And it is really slow. If I want to download the entire US, I zoom all the way out until I can see the entire US 50 states, If I hit download everything for zoom level 6 there, it will simply crash my n900 because there will be 123,456,789 maps to be downloaded.

So basically, there is no way to predownload the maps for mappero. You must have an internet connection on the road, or you take very short trips and pre-browse the path you want to take and let mappero download it for you then.

I agree, I'm also not happy with the performance and required storage for downloading maps. It takes a lot of time to load maps and also takes a lot of storage. This is one issue, when you are using mappero.

But I like the idea of this app very much and handling and using of this app is great and there are some very nice options and opportunities that you wont get by other map-applications. For riding with my motorcycle it's one of my favorites although it's not perfect. Do you really need the entire US in level 6? I loaded the area around my hometown (about 200 km in each direction) in levels 10, 8 and 6. When I'm planning a route, I'm loading the maps around the route in 6. That works.

zimon 2010-06-24 08:34

Re: how to download maps for mappero n900?
 
I was going to make an official feature request of this also, but here goes:
When loading maps, Mappero should make an educated guess how much space and how much data transfer is needed after a user selects what area and zoom levels he is going to get transfered. Then also guess how long it will take if Mappero has some sense about the speed of the connectivity. The user should have some way of cancelling the ongoing map transfer and see how much (megabytes) has already been transfered that far and how much to go.

And, something really has to be done to a fact, that Mappero can currecntly still (with PR1.2 also) bring whole Maemo Linux N900 down so it won't respond to any buttons or touch screen; one has to reboot by removing the battery in a worst case - as I was forced to do 3 - 4 times during last week. Of course, with decent OS this should not happen, but it does. It wasn't necessary downloading maps then, because I used Mappero in offline mode always when not in the WLAN-zone. Just using Mappero, MicroB and 5MP camera at the same time occasianally made the whole system dead to an any user input (waited several minutes to get a control back with no luck)

(Oh well, I wrote so many other notes during the week how Mappero could be more userfriendly and found some clear bugs also.)

mrt 2010-06-24 09:52

Re: how to download maps for mappero n900?
 
Yes, this feature request may help to handle this problem, but it will not really solve it.

After using Maemomapper on my N810 and now using mappero on my N900 I got the impression that it takes more time and more storage in your device on the N900. I'm a novice, so I do not really understand this, but maybe there is another way or technologie to load maps?

Can someone confirm this?

dchky 2010-06-24 10:16

Re: how to download maps for mappero n900?
 
@mrt - currently there is no way to do what you are asking. : (

You can only download the maps through the application itself.

mrt 2010-06-24 10:31

Re: how to download maps for mappero n900?
 
When you connect the N900 to a windows computer in massstorage mode you can see the problem. Look at the properties of one of your subfolders in ".map". In my case the size of the folder "Virtualearth" is 410MB but it really takes 5.30GB on the disk. That's because of there are a lot of small image-files (with the maps) and each file needs one cluster on the disk (that is bigger than the file). So it blocks a lot of storage space on the N900. Am I wrong?

Pigro 2010-06-25 08:46

Re: [Maemo 5] Maemo Mapper - Where are the N900 threads?
 
did another local test route yesterday. same thing - went fine until I diverged & mappero didn't update guidance. Then cleared/reset and entered a new route. got "generic error" no matter what origin/destination I entered thereafter. changing map provider, routing engine and toggling GPS state all made no difference. I closed and restarted Mappero, it didn't help. I ran Ovi maps and closed it after it got a fix - then ran Mappero again - it then allowed me to enter a new route.

I repeated the above (diverge from route; reset; enter new route; get generic error; close Mappero; run Ovi maps; run Mappero). On two out of 4 attempts it got me past the "generic error".

Are others getting this error at all or is it just me?

fixfox 2010-06-25 09:02

Re: [Maemo 5] Maemo Mapper - Where are the N900 threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pigro (Post 728642)
did another local test route yesterday. same thing - went fine until I diverged & mappero didn't update guidance. Then cleared/reset and entered a new route. got "generic error" no matter what origin/destination I entered thereafter. changing map provider, routing engine and toggling GPS state all made no difference. I closed and restarted Mappero, it didn't help. I ran Ovi maps and closed it after it got a fix - then ran Mappero again - it then allowed me to enter a new route.

I repeated the above (diverge from route; reset; enter new route; get generic error; close Mappero; run Ovi maps; run Mappero). On two out of 4 attempts it got me past the "generic error".

Are others getting this error at all or is it just me?

I get the very same errors as you. Unfortunately, the current maintainer Alberto Mardegan once posted on his blog that he does not use the routing engine much.. so I guess it's relatively low on his priority list.

Pigro 2010-06-25 09:22

Re: [Maemo 5] Maemo Mapper - Where are the N900 threads?
 
thanks for the feedback. A shame - hopefully Mappero's performance & stability will improve over time to match it's clearly superior functionality. Until then. Ovi maps will get me there, in it's own clunky way :-)

Cobra 2010-06-26 13:32

Re: [Maemo 5] Maemo Mapper - Where are the N900 threads?
 
every time I try to calculate route mappero closes back to desktop. I new to mappero am I missing something or does everybody have this problem. version 3.o+beta9

cfh11 2010-06-29 14:41

Re: [Maemo 5] Maemo Mapper - Where are the N900 threads?
 
+1 to that ^^^

Makes the program kind of useless IMO


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