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Texrat 2010-06-12 19:52
Re: Sick of all the closing threads
 
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Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 712403)
Please, consider PradaBrada too, please!
PradaBrada is one very sharp cookie. He knows how to game the system. Troll outright until addressed by a moderator and then chill for a bit. Very clever.

benny1967 2010-06-12 20:04
Re: Sick of all the closing threads
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 712408)
PradaBrada is one very sharp cookie. He knows how to game the system. Troll outright until addressed by a moderator and then chill for a bit. Very clever.
and what's that good for? except that he's getting on everyone's nerves while he's "gaming the system"?

Texrat 2010-06-12 20:04
Re: Sick of all the closing threads
 
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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 712416)
and what's that good for? except that he's getting on everyone's nerves while he's "gaming the system"?
I'm not defending him.

Venemo 2010-06-12 20:08
Re: Sick of all the closing threads
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 712408)
PradaBrada is one very sharp cookie. He knows how to game the system. Troll outright until addressed by a moderator and then chill for a bit. Very clever.
True.
I've been thinking about him lately, and I was trying to get him real a few times. He has never EVER accepted any other opinions that are not the same as his. Also, ALL his posts are just whining and endless whining. Once I looked through all his posts, and there was no single post that would actually help someone with anything.

My guess is that he is paid for doing this.

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Originally Posted by Joorin (Post 712406)
There has even been serious research done in this field on post graduate level.

I have my own years spent as an admin to draw from. To actually trust the community is one of the most effective ways to engage people in it. When you know that what you think counts, you tend to use your, albeit limited, power with care but not hesitate to actually act when you think you should.

Assuming that the people on the other side of the keyboards are mostly intelligent and constructive people goes a long way.
Yes, good thoughts.
I would point you here: http://stackoverflow.com/faq

The key is this:
At the high end of this reputation spectrum there is little difference between users with high reputation and ♦ moderators. That is very much intentional. We don't run Stack Overflow. The community does.

maacruz 2010-06-12 20:09
Re: Sick of all the closing threads
 
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Originally Posted by w00t (Post 712388)
I have been doing my best to stay on topic, but this complaint IMO is not well thought out or in good faith.

Yes, the thread may not have broken the rules specifically, but keeping in mind the below, I think it was the right decision.

The request there was made, in good faith, by prolific contributors, not only to this project, but to the very work you mention. In addition, MeeGo is not Maemo, regardless of the devices on which it is being put on.

This in mind, would you really be happy for the thread to be reopened, despite the people doing the actual work not participating? Seems a bit stubborn and pointless, IMHO.

(i am on my n900, responses might be slow)
Let me explain.
Yes, the thread was requested to be closed by tho OP, who had the desire to follow somewhere else.
But the thread also was requested not to be closed, by other long time contributing members, who desired a place inside TMO (still ITT in the mind of many) to further discuss their following and experiecies with Meego in N810.
The thread doesn't only belong to the OP, but to everyone posting there. If the OP desired not to post anything more there, he easyly could have done so. No point in closing the thread.
So, yes, I disagree with closing that particular thread, and I'm among those who have no desire to open an account on yet another forum to follow a particular aspect of the ITTs.
May be I'm just pointless or stubborn, but this is what I think.

Joorin 2010-06-12 20:16
Re: Sick of all the closing threads
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 712408)
PradaBrada is one very sharp cookie. He knows how to game the system. Troll outright until addressed by a moderator and then chill for a bit. Very clever.
Had I not known the context, your comment might as well have been made about a rat in the basement that hides when you turn on the light and then comes sneaking out when you leave.

You're talking about a person. An intelligent person with a gripe, sure, but still a person. As far as I know, PradaBrada is more than a troll but uses his(?) verbal ability to taunt and get in the way of others.

I do understand why a user like PradaBrada might not be very popular but if you're wondering why this community is starting to slant towards the abyss, have a look at your own comment.

And no, this is not an attempt to justify what he(?) does, this is an attempt to actually look at how things are done here. I can respect the opinions of PradaBrada but not the way they are presented and where. And I do respect your effort to moderate things. I've been in your shoes, really, and I'm not envious.

w00t 2010-06-12 20:17
Re: Sick of all the closing threads
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maacruz (Post 712422)
Let me explain.
Yes, the thread was requested to be closed by tho OP, who had the desire to follow somewhere else.
But the thread also was requested not to be closed, by other long time contributing members, who desired a place inside TMO (still ITT in the mind of many) to further discuss their following and experiecies with Meego in N810.
The thread doesn't only belong to the OP, but to everyone posting there. If the OP desired not to post anything more there, he easyly could have done so. No point in closing the thread.
So, yes, I disagree with closing that particular thread, and I'm among those who have no desire to open an account on yet another forum to follow a particular aspect of the ITTs.
May be I'm just pointless or stubborn, but this is what I think.
But there is a point, to remove the confusion of a previously official thread - quite sure this is the entire rrason it was requested and done.

I'm sure that if you wanted to start a new thread discussing developments, nobody would mind. But at the same time... when the work is happening elsewhere, and (as I pointed out) is not Maemo, I'm not sure how you expect to have real relevance there.

Your choices are your own though. Let us not sidetrack further from the much more real and tangible problems presented in this thread.

Texrat 2010-06-12 20:18
Re: Sick of all the closing threads
 
Joorin, I didn't call PradaBrada a troll-- I mentioned a behavior (troll in this case was a verb).

Please consider full context if you're going to criticize, thanks.

Texrat 2010-06-12 20:22
Re: Sick of all the closing threads
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 712421)
The key is this:
At the high end of this reputation spectrum there is little difference between users with high reputation and ♦ moderators. That is very much intentional. We don't run Stack Overflow. The community does.
Exactly my thoughts on how this community should run. We just lack some of the necessary critical functionality.

maacruz 2010-06-12 20:23
Re: Sick of all the closing threads
 
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Originally Posted by w00t (Post 712435)
But there is a point, to remove the confusion of a previously official thread - quite sure this is the entire rrason it was requested and done.
Ok, that's a reason, though I still doubt is was enough to close the thread after being requested not to.
Quote:
Your choices are your own though. Let us not sidetrack further from the much more real and tangible problems presented in this thread.
I agree with that.


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