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Dark_Angel85 2011-01-30 04:29

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 
also, when there is no ctrl+shift+r on the conversations app active, the portrait keyboard that appears is half the screen full only.

But when the ctrl+shift+r is activated, the vkb goes all the way up until the status menu...

so far, both are tolerable but maybe i'd prefer the fuller one... good thing is, we can have a bigger text layout to see what we typed but the other half-screened one is good to see the previous chat messages.

:)

dannycamps 2011-01-30 05:33

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 
Regarding landscape QWERTY and portrait T9...

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Originally Posted by realsportcars (Post 931313)
Yes...it will be done in future...

Only as a selectable option right? I can't stand T9-style input

realsportcars 2011-01-30 10:34

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 
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Originally Posted by dannycamps (Post 931674)
Regarding landscape QWERTY and portrait T9...



Only as a selectable option right? I can't stand T9-style input

Sure! only as option :) In particular I think that I will save the last used kb in portrait and in landscape

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also, when there is no ctrl+shift+r on the conversations app active, the portrait keyboard that appears is half the screen full only.

But when the ctrl+shift+r is activated, the vkb goes all the way up until the status menu...
This is due to hildon, I don't know if I can manage this

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so far, both are tolerable but maybe i'd prefer the fuller one... good thing is, we can have a bigger text layout to see what we typed but the other half-screened one is good to see the previous chat messages.
I really don't want do this: I have to discriminate between "chats app" (not only "conversation win" but all custom app), a way to retrive the last message and a lot of other problem.

Mentalist Traceur 2011-01-31 02:32

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 
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Originally Posted by realsportcars (Post 931784)
Sure! only as option :) In particular I think that I will save the last used kb in portrait and in landscape

If possible, I recommend you save these values in gconf (this is how Hildon remembers what desktop you were last on when you reboot, too, for instance), and quite a lot of apps store their settings through gconf.

Alternatively, a simple file in the same folder as the rest of the vkb's data would work too.

Also, what you could do is use three fields/variables/gconf-entries/lines-in-a-.conf-file etc:
1. Lock
2. Landscape
3. Portrait

If you make it use integers or a name string instead of a boolean for 2 and 3, it'll be more scalable to other 'types' of keyboard layouts - IE, if someone writes that swirling/circle input method as an add-on to your vkb and submits it to you as a patch or something, those variables no longer have to be reworked.

And then the lock variable can be a boolean, and it would be settable in the settings somewhere (toggle/radio button), that prevents rewrites of 2 and 3. That way, you can set the default so that even if you normally like the qwerty, but for some situation chose to use alphanum one day, and close out of the keyboard without switching back, it'll first check if you have the lock variable set to true, and if you do, it'll leave your 2 and 3 variables alone, but it'll edit them of lock is set to false. And in the settings, it can simply be called "Lock Default Keyboard" or something.

But it's up to you. Ultimately, most people will be just fine without this extra locking (myself included) - it just gives an extra layer of soft cushy convenience for people.

realsportcars 2011-01-31 13:44

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 
Perhaps I solved the problem about losed commit, both in "windows" and in microB. I did several attempts without lose a single word and I hope that this is not only a case...

This afternoon I will do other test and if all works fine I will publish a new version

@Mentalist: due to fastsms is Qt based I can't use gconf, but Qt implements other usefull things for this kind of work...but I agree with you in all the rest of your post

realsportcars 2011-01-31 22:08

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 
I've just uploaded a new version for both fastsmsevo (0.1-7) and fastsms (0.5-4). They will be available soon in devel

This new version should not lose text and works fine also in microB.
PS I can't test twitter apps because I haven't an account...Please let me know if now they are ok

EDIT: Remember reboot after install

Mentalist Traceur 2011-01-31 23:08

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 
WORKS.

The very first opening of the keyboard after boot-up wouldn't let me click on the input box itself to change cursor position, but rotating fixed that. :D

Yet another major hurdle to usability bites the dust.

- Edit -

Also just tested in X-Term. Works no matter where you click. No voodoo necessary.

P.S. This edit posted from N900's MicroB in portrait mode.

realsportcars 2011-01-31 23:22

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 
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Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur (Post 932950)
WORKS.

The very first opening of the keyboard after boot-up wouldn't let me click on the input box itself to change cursor position, but rotating fixed that. :D

Yet another major hurdle to usability bites the dust.

- Edit -

Also just tested in X-Term. Works no matter where you click. No voodoo necessary.

P.S. This edit posted from N900's MicroB in portrait mode.

So Good :D

This was really hard to fix because I can't use debug...but I really hope that it is ok.
I used vkb all the day without a single lose commit...If nobody will post errors about this I will move to other bugs in next days...

kylepsp 2011-01-31 23:25

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 
Been using it quite a lot now especially t9.

Just a few bugs

fastsmsevo doesnt register new words ive put into fast sms

would the t9 dictonary be able to change the order in which words are displayed depending on frequency used similar to usual t9?

a send button in the vkb would be good because aftr writing a message in t9 portrait you have to press off, vkb disappears, screen flips. vkb reappears then dissappears n then you can press send.

or another way to improve speed would be for the portrait vkb to not flip hildon, so it stayed portrait.

Hope this helps

realsportcars 2011-01-31 23:39

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 
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Originally Posted by kylepsp (Post 932961)
Been using it quite a lot now especially t9.

Just a few bugs

fastsmsevo doesnt register new words ive put into fast sms

I think you are right...now that the "main" problem is fixed I will investigate also on this.

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would the t9 dictonary be able to change the order in which words are displayed depending on frequency used similar to usual t9?
No, in future perhaps I can add something to change order, but atm not. Which languages are you using?

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a send button in the vkb would be good because after writing a message in t9 portrait you have to press off, vkb disappears, screen flips. vkb reappears then disappears n then you can press send.
I agree with you but vkb is not used only in "conversation" so a "send" button had no sense in other window.

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or another way to improve speed would be for the portrait vkb to not flip hildon, so it stayed portrait.
Sorry, but this is impossible. I have to flip all hildon to flip vkb. This is a workaround to have portrait vkb also where portrait is not supported. By the way I will look for something to speed up the process

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Hope this helps
Absolutely yes! Thank you!!!


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