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bbin 2011-10-06 09:50
Re: Meltemi - Lightweight Linux based os from Nokia
 
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Originally Posted by jo21 (Post 1103929)
because the ecosystem its doing miracles for windows phone and it puny 1.5m sales?
I think we'll have to see untill 2Q 2012 if WP7 is a fail or a win. My bet is going day by day towards win. All the major tech blogs gave Mango really good reviews. Mindshare is really soon in the level of good sales push. Christmas sales are going to be crucial for Elop and Ballmer.

I just don't know where Meltemi fits in Nokia's strategy. I think it would be more logical to put in the ultra high-end of phone/something totally new in mobile space. 100-200 € price range just feels somehow so wrong.

smoku 2011-10-06 09:51
Re: Meltemi - Lightweight Linux based os from Nokia
 
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Originally Posted by bbin (Post 1103915)
Rich featurephones? Wonder what that means.
Devices that used to run Symbian.


My guess is that Meltemi will be very similar to Android in how it uses Linux kernel - just as an enablement layer to glue Qt/QML on a hardware. Not a "real" Linux distribution you excite of.

bbin 2011-10-06 09:55
Re: Meltemi - Lightweight Linux based os from Nokia
 
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Originally Posted by smoku (Post 1103937)
Devices that used to run Symbian.


My guess is that Meltemi will be very similar to Android in how it uses Linux kernel - just as an enablement layer to glue Qt/QML on a hardware. Not a "real" Linux distribution you excite of.
I have same kind of hunch but that would mean competing with WP7?

Is it a backup plan which could be pushed to lower range if needed (WP7 succeeds or not)?

smoku 2011-10-06 10:34
Re: Meltemi - Lightweight Linux based os from Nokia
 
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Originally Posted by bbin (Post 1103943)
I have same kind of hunch but that would mean competing with WP7?

Is it a backup plan which could be pushed to lower range if needed (WP7 succeeds or not)?
For Nokia it was always S40 for featurephones and S60 for smartphones.
Now Meltemi for featurephones and WP for smartphones?

Rugoz 2011-10-06 18:26
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For Nokia it was always S40 for featurephones and S60 for smartphones.
Now Meltemi for featurephones and WP for smartphones?
Which is of course a stupid dinstinction. They can't say its for smartphones because that would "conflict" with their wp7 strategy in the eyes of industry analysists. Nokia news today are being filtered by microsofts ministry of truth.

mikecomputing 2011-10-06 19:03
Re: Meltemi - Lightweight Linux based os from Nokia
 
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Originally Posted by bbin (Post 1103928)
True that. They just need to freaking communicate the future of Qt lot better! Developers have no clear idea of the future of Qt.

Idiotic to keep Qt's future in secrecy.
how about the blogs at:

http://labs.qt.nokia.com

and:

http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devel...ping/#!Android

and:

http://www.developer.nokia.com/Develop/Qt/

danramos 2011-10-06 20:16
Re: Meltemi - Lightweight Linux based os from Nokia
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bbin (Post 1103936)
I think we'll have to see untill 2Q 2012 if WP7 is a fail or a win. My bet is going day by day towards win. All the major tech blogs gave Mango really good reviews. Mindshare is really soon in the level of good sales push. Christmas sales are going to be crucial for Elop and Ballmer.

I just don't know where Meltemi fits in Nokia's strategy. I think it would be more logical to put in the ultra high-end of phone/something totally new in mobile space. 100-200 € price range just feels somehow so wrong.
Man, i could SWEAR (and I often do swear! hehe) that we were told as soon as Windows Phone 7 was releases, that we should give it a few months to a year to prove itself before we can truly call it a failure.

It's been months now--and nearly a year. Can we finally just admit it yet?

onethreealpha 2011-10-06 20:44
Re: Meltemi - Lightweight Linux based os from Nokia
 
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Originally Posted by bbin (Post 1103936)
............. All the major tech blogs said mango finally brings a while bunch of stuff that it should have had from the very beginning and still has a long way to go.
There. fixed that for you

xerxes2 2011-10-06 20:49
Re: Meltemi - Lightweight Linux based os from Nokia
 
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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1104341)
Man, i could SWEAR (and I often do swear! hehe) that we were told as soon as Windows Phone 7 was releases, that we should give it a few months to a year to prove itself before we can truly call it a failure.

It's been months now--and nearly a year. Can we finally just admit it yet?
A few more weeks and WP is one year old.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows...aunch_partners

And btw, MS is still losing marketshare in smartphones month after month.

Edit: I meant that devices have been for sale for a year.

Crashdamage 2011-10-06 21:15
Re: Meltemi - Lightweight Linux based os from Nokia
 
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Originally Posted by xerxes2 (Post 1104360)
...MS is still losing marketshare in smartphones month after month.
Doesn't matter, still way too early in the mobile battle. MS has more cards to play, a good long-range strategy and LOTSA money to spend. They are determined, well financed bulldogs. It will be at least 2 years after Windows 8 is released before remotely meaningful conclusions can be made regarding the eventual success or failure of WinPhone. Check back in 4-5 years.


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