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NX500 2017-07-28 20:05
Re: The choice of OS of the new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw (Post 1531526)
That's a good point, but it's quite nice in combination with a gesture based OS.
Indeed.

But Jollas approach, with a flat screen and a curved casing was nice too!

..but I guess, the additional bezel would make a 5,5 inch device too big.

nthn 2017-07-28 20:39
Re: The choice of OS of the new QWERTY device project
 
I really like this thread, it's full of good news and positivity. The slider phone won't be for me, but I wish you the best of luck in all your future endeavours. In less than a year, you've gone from "we might be making a keyboard addon for an existing device" to "we're recreating a lost device" to "we're making the first keyboard phone in a long time, with great specifications and an independent OS", it's incredible. I look forward to seeing everything that's yet to come.

mr_pingu 2017-07-28 21:54
Re: The choice of OS of the new QWERTY device project
 
I wonder if it's possible to install fullfledged distri's on these types of phones... Is it?
That would be really awesome :)

TheKit 2017-07-29 02:40
Re: The choice of OS of the new QWERTY device project
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_pingu (Post 1531544)
I wonder if it's possible to install fullfledged distri's on these types of phones... Is it?
That would be really awesome :)
You can relatively easily install fullfledged distro in chroot (both on Android and SFOS), but running it as main OS is going to be troublesome.
You need to use Android kernel to make it boot, but the distro likely won't have libhybris and all the phone middleware, and unless Freedreno gets ported, there is no 3D acceleration without libhybris, for example.

Metsämies 2017-07-29 04:58
Re: The choice of OS of the new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by TheKit (Post 1531550)
You can relatively easily install fullfledged distro in chroot (both on Android and SFOS), but running it as main OS is going to be troublesome.
You need to use Android kernel to make it boot, but the distro likely won't have libhybris and all the phone middleware, and unless Freedreno gets ported, there is no 3D acceleration without libhybris, for example.
There are many chinese tablets with dualboot between win10/android, so SFOS is the problem without drivers? I'd like to have dualboot between SFOS and android.

Metsämies 2017-07-29 05:19
Re: The choice of OS of the new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1531509)

Display: 5.5" FHD 1080p IPS, Capacitive, 2.5D glass

The reason choose 5.5 over 5.0:
- More "compatible" with Moto Keyboard Mod's slider part, same size, less work
- More space on keypad, means bigger keys and more keys
- Bigger battery
Please add enough keys, for example scandic öä without pressing any other key. Your Moto Z mod have too big tab/shift/enter keys!

User replaceable battery would be good! And is it possible to have some branded battery so it is later easier to find a new one?

Dave999 2017-07-29 07:29
Re: The choice of OS of the new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by NX500 (Post 1531525)
SailingChen
Haha. SailingChen must be the best name so for. Let's go with that until Chen comes up with the official name or approve this.

SailingChen
Display: 5.5" FHD 1080p IPS, Capacitive, 2.5D glass
Storage: 64GB ROM +4GB RAM
OS: Sailfish
$1199 at BestBuy

SlidingChen
Display: 5.5" FHD 1080p IPS, Capacitive, 2.5D glass
Storage: 64GB ROM +4GB RAM
OS: Android
$999 at BestBuy

Yeah the price was made up by me :D

nh1402 2017-07-29 07:33
Re: The choice of OS of the new QWERTY device project
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1531509)

Display: 5.5" FHD 1080p IPS, Capacitive, 2.5D glass

Storage: 64GB ROM +4GB RAM
I understand that this SoC only supports lpddr3 and emmc 5.1 and not the newer faster much more power efficient lpddr4x and ufs 2.1 probably for cost reasons (the Snapdragon 630 does support those, but is newer and probably much more expensive as well as the components)

But does the screen have Panel Self Refresh technology? The screen could still be power efficient, if the other components can't.

Metsämies 2017-07-29 09:10
Re: The choice of OS of the new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1531555)
Haha. SailingChen must be the best name so for. Let's go with that until Chen comes up with the official name or approve this.
"This "Lauta" device will be branded as Livermorium (Or simply L-Device) But Chenphone is also nice, could be our internal code name between Maemians

I don't want to call it a "Phone" - It is meant to be a pocket computer - as the "Internet Tablet" series that we loved."

mr_pingu 2017-07-29 09:21
Re: The choice of OS of the new QWERTY device project
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheKit (Post 1531550)
You can relatively easily install fullfledged distro in chroot (both on Android and SFOS), but running it as main OS is going to be troublesome.
You need to use Android kernel to make it boot, but the distro likely won't have libhybris and all the phone middleware, and unless Freedreno gets ported, there is no 3D acceleration without libhybris, for example.
:( I want just to boot into arch or devuan. I don't need phone capabilities.


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