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Welcome to the world of software engineering :)

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:D

1000 Points :cool:

Is a nice idea, but I don't think Nokia will do that...

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It's more about me being sick and tired of companies promising this and that. (Ofcours especially about release date)

Eikido

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bad news I'm afraid http://n900blog.wordpress.com/2009/1...ially-delayed/

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You aren't really ready the thread, are you?

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Thanks, but we heard it here first. Read the thread.

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Well, here are my last words. Thanks 4 giving us hope that Nokia does not fail. Damn that they do .... To be true, i dont think that the N900 will be that bug free as they think. Come on.. 300 People find many problems ?
Maby 300 Users, but not 300 devs. I think there will come more bugs, when people start to do things (push wrong buttons) because they are new to the device and dont really know whats going on. But thats only my opinion. Im getting sick to read every day a new release date. A big thanks goes to Peter. Nice for showing up here. And this is where i started to think about being here. I wait now till i get a email that my phone is shipped, and then i come back. I like the comunity a lot and i think there will be lots of fun when everybody is still here when the divice is in everboys hands.
Soooo c u soon.

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well im going back to running/fencing/martial arts till my phone comes out :D:p

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OptX:

Please forgive me for this...
But are you trying to teach/tell nokia how to develop phones and finding bugs?:)

Eikido

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well, Czech Nokia Shop has it finally online:
http://www.obchod.nokia.cz/nokia-n900-barva-black

I'll try to find out the shipping date for Czech Rep.

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wuts special about this shop?

nm they seem to be selling qwerty :p

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It's the official Shop of Nokia Czech Republic. Nokia in the Czech Republic will be the only official retailer selling this device. Carriers won't be selling it, atleast not the first month. About the keyboard - There hasn't been any official word on this from Nokia Czech. For example, on their main Nokia site, they list the N900 having a qwertz. We will have to wait for a reply.

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http://www.sears.com/shc/s/ProductDi...0070921x00003a

hmm monitor with bluetooth

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Peter's note of "during November" ended up on Engadget -> http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/22/n...e-in-november/

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bah ... @##%#$ Engadget. I submit the video of multi-player Quake 3 on N900, they did not accept it but chose this news.

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"Oooh, get you James Bond" (to be said in a derisory camp voice for best effect)

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I get the vibe that the guys at Engadget don't like the N900 or Nokia. Just watch their first Engadget show, It's painful.

Anything bad or negative about Nokia gets posted on their blog.

Maybe it is jealousy or just lack of accepting the fact that there are other markets than the US.

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You didnt know engadget writers are bunch of appl fan boys?

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Now its true, that "during november" means "end of november":

"Bei Vorbestellung ist eine Anlieferung voraussichtlich ab dem 25. November 2009 möglich."
"At preorder delivery will be from 25. november 2009"

( http://shop.nokia.de/nokia-de/product.aspx?sku=6958534 )

Maybe i will cancel my preorder, and wait for the N900+1 device. Cant be so long after the N900 is finally released :(

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Anyone for an N900 Mini? Preorder now http://talk.maemo.org/images/smilies/wink.gif

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To make my statement clear: I dont mind that the N900 will (maybe) come on 25. November. I am a bit disappointed, that the timeline changed day by day:
end september
12. october
30. october
"during november"
25. november
...
2012 ...

I dont know. Thats bad communication. Saying "during november" when knowing it will released end of november is no good behaviour. Its just a "marketing" statement to clam down the crowd (me), but its not good.
Why not stating "End of the year" (ok, "End of 2009" should be better, to not wait longer than maybe 2011). Or why not saying "Sorry, we cannot keep our timeline because of *insert_any_true_reason_like_hardware/software_problems_here*.
I am really bad disappointed by this kind of communication to us.

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Where have you been getting these times *from*? On all of the official Nokia sites I've looked at, it's *always* just been along the lines of "late X", "tentative november", etcetera.

Other places have obviously been giving all sorts of funny dates, but that's because they want your preorder (and then hope and pray that the date becomes fact) - not because they have insider information on when it's going to be, and obviously, it doesn't work to give a date that is in the past.

Obviously my view of this is somewhat tainted, as I've primarily been checking Nokia UK, but I've also wandered around Nokia Finland, and a few of the other local stores, and I've never seen *any* officially released hard date.

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The october dates are taken from shop.nokia.de (as is the 25th of november date). N97 mini also has been pushed to 3rd november now (and it was at 9th of october) :)

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Yes the hard dates were all placed on shop.nokia.de
And the official Nokia site should know when the thing is done.

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That's it. I'm out. Just called Nokia and cancelled my preorder.

Seriously, all of us have ponied up $550-$650 for a phone sight unseen. We've practically volunteered to be the first round of real-life testers of a new product (how many of us ordering a new half-a-G linux phone aren't technically aware) and we've been rewarded for that with

- being kept in the dark
- when any information *is* offered, it's vague or incorrect
- first "official" announcement is, three days before they've been saying it will ship, that it will be delayed another month.

For god's sake, rumors about the *next* Maemo are out before they release this one. What a crappy job they did with a group of people who were sold on the phone as soon as it was announced.

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Strange. I'd not checked Germany, but if that's the case, it smacks of (internal) miscommunication to me.

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And now in finish http://www.puhelinvertailu.com/uutis...raskuun_aikana

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sounds like the N900 comes with Duke Nukem Forever and GNU Hurd preinstalled !! ;)

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The poster you're referring to ignored the German word "voraussichtlich" -- what he quoted above (and read as a precise date) has to be translated as "shipping will probably be possible by November 25", which isn't in contradiction to Peter's earlier statement at all. No miscommunication, in my opinion.

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Hey, I didn't ***** until I was ready to do something about it. What's your point? Do you think Nokia has handled it well? Or do you think everyone should only have happy, warm feelings and not say bad things?

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I am annoyed it has been delayed, but I really think people are seriously overreacting.

Considering there is NOTHING comparable to the N900, anyone who is cancelling because of the delay that are NOT doing it because "I something urgently for work before then", were clearly not very sold the device to begin with.

In fact I wonder if those people cancelling is actually a blessing, less pissing and moaning about "no MMS" or other features we already knew it would not have. I really cannot see any logic to cancelling because its been "delayed a month". I am stuck on an old ancient Samsung with 128x128 pixel screen but I wont be wasting my money getting something else, I will wait for the N900 because its the ONLY device which does what I want.

I already put up with Windows Mobile because it nearly did what I wanted and Android or Symbian were just not designed all that well. Maemo is trying to do something that is well overdue in the mobile market, make an efficient OS that isn't slow as sludge and things like IM integrate into the whole experience instead of being icky addons. Anyone who thinks that is not worth waiting for I question why you wanted the N900 in the first place.

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My reaction is so angry because it's again ESTIMATED, as ALL other dates were. Its October 22nd, and its expected PROBABLY to be released on November 25th, PROBABLY, or probably NOT. One week before 25th It will be moved again, as id did the 3rd time now!

One other thing that annoys me very much, is that nokia didn't notify me by email about ANY of these delays, ... No explain, no sorry, nothing, ... Again: I preorderd 29th August.

I must be an idiot to ever preorder anything so early. I was confident and thought it was a good descision.

I won't cancell my preorder nevertheless...

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No im not. Sorry maby not so good translated because im from germany :D

All i want to say is something like "Come on, there is no need for 300 people to pre-test"
Look at the N97, in my eyes a total disaster @ release, but when new fw. is out, many many people are happy with their phone then. Many sayed that this update is the fw, that should had been on the N97 for release.
What i want to say: Do they think when they give 300 devs a N900 the bugs will go down to 0 ? I dont want to say that in a bad way. Devs know a lot more where to find bugs then we do. Its just bugs are everywhere, in every piece of elektronic. Give us our phone. :p We coud have lived with that bugs, because we know that there are updates. Look it that way: I see more and more people say that they quit with Nokia. I understand them 100%. What was the Problem ? I think they would have found te same, maby more bugs, when they did let go the N900 much earlyer to us. Thats my Point. Nokia can do whatever they want. They should know what they are doing. All i know, this is absolutly no good promo 4 Nokia.
And all i sayed here sould not be understand as in a bad way.
Over and out :D

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Actually it is considering he asked if a US N900 will work in France. Like I said before it all depends on the frequencies. Frequencies for a US model are still going to be the same if you took it from the US and brought it to France. So it's just a matter if the US frequencies are the same as the French ones. Again, he could of just looked and see the compatibility.

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Then their you go, it should work. Like the other guy said last night who also answered you. He also stated it'll work on French frequencies.

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I think Nokia should have done a little bit more planning. They should have held off until the summit to announce the n900 and then start the pre-order. Then give the pre-release hardware and software about a month to work out the major bugs that would keep anyone else from developing. Then we would have been waiting from end of October until late November when the device will be released. Which would be a typical pre-order wait. Anyone that keeps up with new technology are always waiting. But that kind of wait is not as bad as completing an order form and looking for the actual release of the device you have been waiting for a year or more to start using. Regardless I am keeping my nokiaUSA pre-order, and cant wait to see the ship notification, because I have been following the n900 for a while now.

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seriously guys, i thought it was pushed back to mid-November, thats 15 nov. Now im reading 25 nov? is this for real?

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yes, sure nokia.de changed to 25th. but nokia.se still have week.44.

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Peter said "Sometime during November", so technically that could be any day during Nov...