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Spudboy 2009-10-29 19:42
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaboxergirl (Post 360907)
If Nokia dispatch on the 9th- when do we estimate that MPD will have got a shiny N900 through our letterbox? (sorry, in the UK, I should have said).
Delivery of Nokia N900 stock into our Nokia stores has unfortunately been delayed by two weeks to w/c 16th November. The delivery when it arrives will be the first N900 stock in the UK and orders will be dispatched on a first ordered, first serve, basis directly from our Nokia stores.

I got the above yesterday (before MPD sent the similar email out today). A day or two after the 16th would be my guess... Who knows though :confused: I'm hoping it's Friday the 13th :D

Spudboy 2009-10-29 19:56
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 360978)
I think it more likely they've disabled the link from the search engine, and will email me in the next day or so that the date is set back - possibly indefinitely.

So what's this HTC Leo thing like?....
I reckon they have just maxed out their preorders and have no clue when they will be able to order anymore for now.

I would email / call them about it though...

rm42 2009-10-29 19:57
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With so many apps and libs still needing to be optified I am not surprised that they pushed the day back. I mean, if that is not ready many other things could be still half baked as well. I am really happy that Nokia had the courage to delay the thing. I just hope that when they do release it it is able to fly and that the experience is a good one, especially for all the people I have steered into getting it.

RevdKathy 2009-10-29 20:04
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudboy (Post 361000)
I reckon they have just maxed out their preorders and have no clue when they will be able to order anymore for now.

I would email / call them about it though...
I called this morning and they swore blue they would dispatch on Monday. As nokia themselvs aren't dispatching till the following week, I don;t really velieve them.

I tried calling this evening and got held in a very long queue (and gave up). I will see if they email over night,, and maybe call again in the morning.

tanekray 2009-10-29 20:12
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Play.com say Due for release on 20/11/2009

attila77 2009-10-29 20:17
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rm42 (Post 361002)
With so many apps and libs still needing to be optified I am not surprised that they pushed the day back. I mean, if that is not ready many other things could be still half baked
Optification of apps in Extras is a community effort with help from select Nokia folks, with minimal impact on Nokia's release schedule, so don't jump to conclusions based on that. The N900 will ship when it ships regardless if next weekend I go to a pub with my buddies or spend that time on the testing (optification check including) marathon :)

jackabite 2009-10-29 20:28
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 361006)
I called this morning and they swore blue they would dispatch on Monday. As nokia themselvs aren't dispatching till the following week, I don;t really velieve them.

I tried calling this evening and got held in a very long queue (and gave up). I will see if they email over night,, and maybe call again in the morning.
I've got a pre-order with Amazon.co.uk (from 17th Oct) and it still shows an estimated delivery time of 2nd November.

Something I found a bit bizzare was that the original Nokia Pre-Order flash advertisement on Amazon's site used to take you to the Amazon pre-order page and not Nokia's.

However the same style advert for the N97 Mini would take you to the Nokia.co.uk website for the pre-order.

I really hope that Nokia and Amazon teamed up on this and Amazon have now reached their pre-order quota.

If not then the Sony Ericsson Rachael (X10) is looking like a mighty alternative, announcing on the 3rd Nov.

RevdKathy 2009-10-29 20:31
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jackabite (Post 361025)
I've got a pre-order with Amazon.co.uk (from 17th Oct) and it still shows an estimated delivery time of 2nd November.

Something I found a bit bizzare was that the original Nokia Pre-Order flash advertisement on Amazon's site used to take you to the Amazon pre-order page and not Nokia's.

However the same style advert for the N97 Mini would take you to the Nokia.co.uk website for the pre-order.

I really hope that Nokia and Amazon teamed up on this and Amazon have now reached their pre-order quota.

If not then the Sony Ericsson Rachael (X10) is looking like a mighty alternative, announcing on the 3rd Nov.
Can you refresh and view your order? My order page has changed - I can no longer specifically view that order: just my general orders list. I have a nasty suspicion Amazon have cancelled all orders.

jackabite 2009-10-29 20:35
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 361030)
Can you refresh and view your order? My order page has changed - I can no longer specifically view that order: just my general orders list. I have a nasty suspicion Amazon have cancelled all orders.
Mine is still there showing Nov 2nd....

sacha 2009-10-29 20:35
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GunnerzMate (Post 360853)
From who did you receive this?
expansys

regards

Sacha

GunnerzMate 2009-10-29 21:13
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Anyone have any info on Amazon UK? Why would they cancel all orders?

in_it_2_win_it 2009-10-29 21:15
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Guys, just came across this when looking at e2save.. (this should fuel some more speculation!!).....

e2save Coming Soon

Nokia N900
Due in: February 2010

RevdKathy 2009-10-29 21:15
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GunnerzMate (Post 361079)
Anyone have any info on Amazon UK? Why would they cancel all orders?
They haven't. But right now, if you do a search for n900, it doesn't show at all. You can access the page if you have the link (as in it's still there). But they are obviously changing something. The just aren't clear what yet. :(

draco.bdn 2009-10-29 21:17
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I just can't find the N900 with the Amazon UK Search...

RevdKathy 2009-10-29 21:20
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by draco.bdn (Post 361088)
I just can't find the N900 with the Amazon UK Search...
Which is what I just said: they have apparently withdrawn it from sale but their current orders presently remain unchanged.

Either there's some big mix up reason why they withdrew it, and they will inform the customers who preordered in due time. Or they really did sell out their pre-orders.

draco.bdn 2009-10-29 21:21
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 361089)
Which is what I just said: they have apparently withdrawn it from sale but their current orders presently remain unchanged.

Either there's some big mix up reason why they withdrew it, and they will inform the customers who preordered in due time. Or they really did sell out their pre-orders.
But why must they delete it complete off the page?

Sorry didn't see that you post it before.

sharper 2009-10-29 21:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 361087)
They haven't. But right now, if you do a search for n900, it doesn't show at all. You can access the page if you have the link (as in it's still there). But they are obviously changing something. The just aren't clear what yet. :(
If I were to guess I think they're in the process of moving it to November 9th. There's probably a period before the new values propagate to all servers so it's in a "you can't preorder it" state.

GunnerzMate 2009-10-29 21:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 361089)
Which is what I just said: they have apparently withdrawn it from sale but their current orders presently remain unchanged.

Either there's some big mix up reason why they withdrew it, and they will inform the customers who preordered in due time. Or they really did sell out their pre-orders.
So there is nothing to worry about?

draco.bdn 2009-10-29 21:32
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I must think on this phone right now...
What a bad omen :(

http://techdigestuk.typepad.com/tech...nokia_7700.JPG

RevdKathy 2009-10-29 21:34
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GunnerzMate (Post 361095)
So there is nothing to worry about?
Oh there's plenty to worry about: global warming, death of the rain forests, demise of the dolphins in the Yangtse river, Tony Blair becoming EU president, England being thrashed at cricket in South Africa, will Silverstone get formula one, will the world end in 2012, will that save us paying for the olypics, Tony of Corrie has had a heart attack...

But your n900? It's utterly zen. It will happen, but you cannot speed it up. You cannot push the river upstream. Amazon resounds to the sound of one hand clapping... I'm sure they'll tell us in the morning.

JD2010 2009-10-29 21:43
Re: N900 price dropped & release really soon?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hypnotik (Post 360979)
Yeah, that was basically the same reason I used when I cancelled mine as well.... shame that they can't just either a) release it or b) have a firm release date - not some vague "we expect to ship in november" rubbish.
I double check with nokia us shipping date is schedule 2nd week of november

Guffaw 2009-10-29 21:46
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This is the link to the N900 @ Amazon.co.uk

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002QEBX5E
"Sign up to be notified when this item becomes available."

JD2010 2009-10-29 21:50
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 361102)
Oh there's plenty to worry about: global warming, death of the rain forests, demise of the dolphins in the Yangtse river, Tony Blair becoming EU president, England being thrashed at cricket in South Africa, will Silverstone get formula one, will the world end in 2012, will that save us paying for the olypics, Tony of Corrie has had a heart attack...

But your n900? It's utterly zen. It will happen, but you cannot speed it up. You cannot push the river upstream. Amazon resounds to the sound of one hand clapping... I'm sure they'll tell us in the morning.
The N900 search work for amazon US have you notice?

pwannell 2009-10-29 22:17
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Rumour has it that many Nokia handsets were dispatched with beta debug software on it that in the background sent text after text to Nokia to report and faults with the original 300 prototypes that went out at the Maemo Summit. I think that this was accidently left into a few batches being shipped round the world which would have ment users without knowing it sending multiple sms messages on an international number. I can only assume they are taking the stock back to the countries such as sweden etc and making sure they are flashed with correct firmware.

hypnotik 2009-10-29 22:28
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pwannell (Post 361141)
Rumour has it that many Nokia handsets were dispatched with beta debug software on it that in the background sent text after text to Nokia to report and faults with the original 300 prototypes that went out at the Maemo Summit. I think that this was accidently left into a few batches being shipped round the world which would have ment users without knowing it sending multiple sms messages on an international number. I can only assume they are taking the stock back to the countries such as sweden etc and making sure they are flashed with correct firmware.
Seems kind of dubious. 160 chars seems highly inefficient to send debug info as.

OptX 2009-10-29 22:29
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Shipping started or just a bad joke ?

N900 in Sock ???

hypnotik 2009-10-29 22:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OptX (Post 361148)
Shipping started or just a bad joke ?

N900 in Sock ???
probably just has in stock so you'll place an order... highly dubious.

qole 2009-10-29 22:33
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Rumour has it that Dell ships keyloggers in their laptops and the AIM service harvests all of your IMs and uses them as they see fit.

GunnerzMate 2009-10-29 22:36
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by God (Post 361150)
I'm actually starting to dream that I'm buying it at a store!

Nokia, hurry the !$%&! up releasing this phone, before I turn psycho.

@ OptX, could be true. I doubt they would put it otherwise :S
Actually, they would put it so more people would order from them thinking they would get the device earlier than said by Nokia, though there is probably a 3% chance they're telling the truth since we've seen this happen several times now, but don't keep your hopes up...

GunnerzMate 2009-10-29 22:38
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by God (Post 361156)
Umm those rumours are from 2005?...

A bit later, nor?
He was making fun of this:

Rumour has it that many Nokia handsets were dispatched with beta debug software on it that in the background sent text after text to Nokia to report and faults with the original 300 prototypes that went out at the Maemo Summit. I think that this was accidently left into a few batches being shipped round the world which would have ment users without knowing it sending multiple sms messages on an international number. I can only assume they are taking the stock back to the countries such as sweden etc and making sure they are flashed with correct firmware.

pwannell 2009-10-29 22:41
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Quote:
Michal Jerz wrote:


Testing this device already costed me quite a lot as it turned out that it had some bug reporting function working in the background and reporting each and every error via International SMS, without even informing about it or asking for permission. etc.)
http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopi...=asc&start=375

qole 2009-10-29 23:07
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Interesting.

First, Jerz did not get his device as part of the 300 Summit devices. I'm not sure how he got his device; I don't remember him saying, actually. Perhaps Eldar gave him his one. That would explain the covert SMS messages!

Secondly, his story makes no sense. The crash reporter activated in most of the N900's earlier firmware builds sends data via the Internet, not SMS. The data being sent can easily be a megabyte or more, so SMS doesn't make any sense as a method to send reports.

Thirdly, covert SMS messages that leave no trace on the device is not a very Maemo Devices thing to do.

So I think there are three choices here, listed in order of likelihood: (1) The N900 didn't send any secret SMS messages at all, and Jerz is getting scammed by an identity thief or his carrier, (2) Jerz got an illegal device which had a "bug" or "tracer" put in it to track its location, or (3) Jerz' N900 was the first Maemo 5 device "in the wild" to get infected with a trojan!

sharper 2009-10-29 23:24
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 361185)
So I think there are three choices here, listed in order of likelihood: (1) The N900 didn't send any secret SMS messages at all, and Jerz is getting scammed by an identity thief or his carrier, (2) Jerz got an illegal device which had a "bug" or "tracer" put in it to track its location, or (3) Jerz' N900 was the first Maemo 5 device "in the wild" to get infected with a trojan!
Or the device had a random build of software with some developer debug code in it. The code might simply have been sending status reports for test purposes and not be related to the crash reporter or any other feature.

qole 2009-10-29 23:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sharper (Post 361201)
Or the device had a random build of software with some developer debug code in it. The code might simply have been sending status reports for test purposes and not be related to the crash reporter or any other feature.
That is also a possibility; it is a variant of (2) in my list, that he got an illegal / illicit device with firmware never intended to go outside the walls of Nokia. Reading through that entire thread, several comments Jerz makes suggests that this is probably what happened.

NvyUs 2009-10-29 23:56
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this thread states he never got is n900 from nokia,
is followers started a petition b/c nokia recently turned him down for a production unit, maybe b/c they dont like that he got a proto unit leaked to him early so now they making him pay.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...=petition+n900

hypnotik 2009-10-30 01:59
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Interesting post:

http://bit.ly/8iJv9

zico 2009-10-30 02:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hypnotik (Post 361283)
Interesting post:

http://bit.ly/8iJv9
The website it self looks as a 12 years old kids blog. i wouldn't trust sites like that if i where you.

john12 2009-10-30 04:34
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
http://www.kokeytechnology.com/gadge...y-anticipated/

In the above link, the release date in US says Nov 2nd.
Also thats the latest news as on October 29th 2009. I dont know how true is this...

toratoko 2009-10-30 05:24
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I love how with the creation of the internet came the wave of lacking to cite your sources. All respects to the owners and creators of sites like those but now I've realized that half of these places with "phone news" are just trash sites trying to rake in users for their google advertisements.

DOWN WITH THE INTERNET!



Quote:
Originally Posted by john12 (Post 361349)
http://www.kokeytechnology.com/gadge...y-anticipated/

In the above link, the release date in US says Nov 2nd.
Also thats the latest news as on October 29th 2009. I dont know how true is this...

les_garten 2009-10-30 05:28
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by toratoko (Post 361355)
I love how with the creation of the internet came the wave of lacking to cite your sources. All respects to the owners and creators of sites like those but now I've realized that half of these places with "phone news" are just trash sites trying to rake in users for their google advertisements.

DOWN WITH THE INTERNET!
Betcha a dollar, we're his source!


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