maemo.org - Talk - Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I know why... I couldn't roll back pulseaudio to the needed version without losing half of the apps, so I hacked the libpulse0 files as you saw. Installing something new seems to undo my hack. I'll look into this and see if I can keep that from happening...

As for those having "device in use" problems: make sure you run the "close Debian" icon (sudo closechroot from the terminal) before connecting the N900 via USB.

I'll look also look into getting aptitude to leave the symlinks alone and let you know if I find something.

shanti

2010-02-13 17:59

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Ok, solved by commenting all lenny packages in sources.list :)

qole	2010-02-13 18:01

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

hstende:

Thanks, it seems that you still have Debian apps running! I see "debbie" and "qchroot" and "loop0" in your ps list.

This is obviously a problem with Fremantle's broken fuser command.

Those having problems, do the following:

Code:

sudo debian echo

sudo cp /.debian/bin/fuser /bin

sudo closechroot

aechelon

2010-02-13 18:30

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by RafaLL92 (Post 524929)

The extraction in terminal fails after 25min with a message:
"lzma: Decoder error
Command exited with non-zero status 1"

Whats that? Im sorry Im a total noob when it comes to linux :(

Install OpenSSH server on your N900. Make sure the phone is on your wireless network, install an SSH client on your PC (e.g. PuTTY) and connect via IP address.

Another option would be to install the pc-connectivity-manager which will also allow you to connect via bluetooth and USB, but I would stick to ssh and wifi as a starting point.

andyph666

2010-02-13 20:12

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I'm getting an error after installing gnumeric. it finished with an error and now i cant get rid of this error and cant install any other apps like kazehakase. what else should i try?

Code:

The following extra packages will be installed:

  libkrb53

Suggested packages:

  krb5-doc krb5-user

The following NEW packages will be installed:

  libkrb53

0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 20 not upgraded.

16 not fully installed or removed.

Need to get 0B/449kB of archives.

After this operation, 1.085kB of additional disk space will be used.

Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y

(Reading database ... 58212 files and directories currently installed.)

Unpacking libkrb53 (from .../libkrb53_1.6.dfsg.4~beta1-5lenny2_armel.deb) ...

dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libkrb53_1.6.dfsg.4~beta1-5lenny2_armel.deb (--unpack):

 trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libgssapi_krb5.so.2.2', which is also in package libgssapi-krb5-2 0:1.7+dfsg-4

dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)

Errors were encountered while processing:

 /var/cache/apt/archives/libkrb53_1.6.dfsg.4~beta1-5lenny2_armel.deb

E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

shanti

2010-02-13 20:52

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

andyph666
comment out all lenny entries in /etc/apt/sources.list, uncomment all squeeze
apt-get update

But I think it will cause problems with something else. However I made this.

qole	2010-02-14 00:51

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

shanti's partly right. You don't have to comment the lenny lines, just uncomment the squeeze lines.

If you uncomment the squeeze line and apt-get update, you'll install the new version of things. The risk you take is that you'll break something that works.

andyph666

2010-02-14 02:05

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Is it possible to run a different window manager? Is there a music player with equalizer that works on easy debian? The uncommenting of the squeeze repo worked fine thanks. Audacious gave me a segfault when I tried to run it.

aechelon

2010-02-14 07:41

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyph666 (Post 525467)

I run blackbox as my default window manager. It's lightweight and flexible.

Audacious has a built-in eq. The boot log indicates that the segfault occurs while loading /usr/lib/audacious/Input/adplug.so. Moving adplug.so out of the way worked for me with no obvious side-effects.

titan

2010-02-14 10:32

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

lzma decoding consistently takes about 8mins on my N900, both on eMMC and SD card (class 6).
I believe the 5x longer decoding times some people observe are due to simulatenous flash access of other applications and/or swapping due to low memory.
You may see a similar effect on your desktop PC if you copy two very large file one after another vs. simulatenously.
I recommend to close all applications or better reboot before decompression.
ssh access might help but I don't think it is necessary.

I would be nice if you could vote for the promotion of lzma to extras
if you did not have any problems with the package
http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...4.43-14maemo4/

titan

2010-02-14 10:37

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by RafaLL92 (Post 524929)

The extraction in terminal fails after 25min with a message:
"lzma: Decoder error
Command exited with non-zero status 1"

your downloaded image might be corrupted.
the output "md5sum debian-m5-v3a.img.ext2.lzma"
should be 8d8772c3ef9a943b12ab52e4ddcafb6d

andyph666

2010-02-14 12:03

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

aechelon: Thanks got audacious working. Could you please tell me how to get blackbox to work? tried to make a .xinitrc file in my home directory but its not working. How do I add a shortcut to the lxde menu? Some things don't show up like evince. Thanks.

Ardour and hydrogen doesn't work. It needs alsa to work. VLC sound works but video does not show properly. Colors are messed up and only shows the video in a tiny part of the screen.

alex-000

2010-02-14 12:23

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

@ qole

First of all, congratulations for the application that I installed about two months ago. Today I installed Audacity and I can edit my mp3 llistening the audio. I decided to install VLC but I can not hear the audio. you have any solution? thank you in advance

shanti

2010-02-14 13:34

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

you'll install the new version of things
Yes, I updated fully. Seems all I need works fine :)
However I dont need audio and video on Easy Debian, so cannot say would this fuctions works.

fred123

2010-02-14 22:02

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I have just started installing Easy debian

Uncompressing in putty window, phone was totaly unressponsive could not wakeup screen, watched progress with winscp.

Nokia-N900-51-1:/home/user/MyDocs# time /usr/bin/lzma -d debian-m5-v3a.img.ext2.lzma
real 1h 0m 22s
user 3m 45.28s
sys 0m 42.41s

fred123

2010-02-14 22:32

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

OK silly question, using easy debian I have got iceweasle in fullscreen how do I get back to normal view?

alex-000

2010-02-15 09:15

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex-000 (Post 525876)

has anyone tried to use vlc with debian and N900?

andyph666

2010-02-15 09:22

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Yes I tried it with an episode of accidentally on purpose 350 mb .avi file. It loaded up and the sound was working fine but the video only showed in one part of the window. It was really small and the color wasn't right at all and it was grainy.

alex-000

2010-02-15 10:23

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyph666 (Post 527025)

Strange! I can't hear audio with Vlc but the audio is ok with other audio software for example Audacity.......

hstende

2010-02-15 19:48

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

@qole Where is the config for mounting of home?
I want to try mounting /home/user/debian instead of /home/user so that I don't mess up with config in .mozilla and others.

qole	2010-02-15 20:29

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by hstende (Post 528040)

@qole Where is the config for mounting of home?
I want to try mounting /home/user/debian instead of /home/user so that I don't mess up with config in .mozilla and others.

It can be found in the /sbin/qchroot script.

Another option for you is to just not mount /home/user at all. /home/user/MyDocs will still get mounted, but you can keep a Debian home directory separately, in the chroot.

andyph666

2010-02-15 21:15

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

For anyone that does not know how to make an entry in the lxde menu. Ur supposed to make a .desktop file like the files in /usr/share/applications. Put it in there with thr right settings and they should appear in the menu. I just copied one of the .desktop files that was already in the folder and changed the values.

Qole: do you know how i would change the window manager to for example openbox. Also if a window is too big like settings for amarok how do we press the Ok button to proceed as i cannot see it. Ive tried fullscreen in chroot as well as trying to resize the window but its not helping.

qole	2010-02-15 22:52

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

andyph666:

- The window manager already is openbox.

- Use Ctrl-. (Ctrl and "period") to activiate the "move window" cursor, then drag the window up to expose the OK button.

andyph666

2010-02-16 00:12

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

i meant blackbox. is there a way to change defaulw window managers? ctrl - . isnt working for me tried moving up and down but it is still not exposing the ok button. Thanks.

qole	2010-02-16 00:29

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

andyph666: make sure you've got the latest Easy Debian, it should have the Ctrl-. key combination. Make sure the keyboard is working in the LXDE window, you might need to hit the power key and then clear the menu to make the keyboard work. Your cursor should change to the "arrow cross" when you press Ctrl-. and you can then drag the window up.

As for switching window managers, search the thread, there's some discussion above. I don't know how to do it myself.

F2thaK

2010-02-16 03:01

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

i cannot install easy-deb-chroot as im missing bzip2, i need help!

cannot apt-get bzip2 either

qole	2010-02-16 04:02

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

f2thak: bzip2 is in the "Nokia Applications" repo.

gnasgame3

2010-02-16 07:23

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

can someone tell me how to assign more cpu power and virtual memory to the easy debian. dont seem to be able to find control panel to adjust

thank you

qole	2010-02-16 07:29

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnasgame3 (Post 528816)

can someone tell me how to assign more cpu power and virtual memory to the easy debian. dont seem to be able to find control panel to adjust

thank you

That would be nice, if there were such a thing.

hstende

2010-02-16 07:48

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I removed the # from the squeeze in /etc/apt/sources.list
and did an apt-get dist-upgrade -f
Then I did the pulseaudiohack to get sound
and the sudo synchroot to get the keyboard working in lxde
I installed vlc witch is in version 1.04 and it worked.
So now I run squeeze and have sound and lxde.
openoffice working
qtnx working (no sound)
rdesktop working
vlc working
iceweasel working

qole	2010-02-17 04:33

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by aechelon (Post 525672)

Audacious has a built-in eq. The boot log indicates that the segfault occurs while loading /usr/lib/audacious/Input/adplug.so. Moving adplug.so out of the way worked for me with no obvious side-effects.

I tried to use the EQ in audacious, but the audo starts skipping horribly as soon as I turn it on! What's your experience?

awwaiid

2010-02-17 05:13

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

For the pulseaudio hack -- maybe there is a way to use debian pinning to keep the old version?

aechelon

2010-02-17 05:45

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 531401)

I tried to use the EQ in audacious, but the audo starts skipping horribly as soon as I turn it on! What's your experience?

I noticed the same thing. Top says Audacious is chewing up ~50% of the CPU and pulseaudio is eating another ~30%. Between the two my CPU is pegged, so I'm guessing any additional load (like pre-filtering the audio through the EQ) causes the audio to skip.

I see the same skipping effect by starting a couple of other desktop apps (Gkrellm, vncviewer).

By comparison, CPU usage for lxmusic is in the 15% range with PulseAudio still eating roughly 30%. The native N900 media player uses <10% and pulseaudio doesn't spike at all.

Using that much CPU to play music in the background leaves little room for running other apps, which defeats the whole purpose of running a full desktop on the N900...

I'm going to download sources for pulseaudio and profile what's going on (money says there's a busy wait in there).

rebhana

2010-02-17 08:10

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 377445)

Update 22-Jan-2010:

The two essential Easy Debian packages (easy-chroot and easy-deb-chroot) are now in the Fremantle Extras repository!

Now that I've got Easy Debian into Extras, I have pushed the next versions of the two packages to Extras-testing. Please install, test, and vote.

The new version
easy-deb-chroot_0.9.39-1fremantle1_armel.deb
is now in Extras, I noticed. Does this also install a new Debian image? @qole: Perhaps an update to the first posting of this thread would be useful to give a hint what upgrading implies - this thread is so long by now that it's quite difficult to remain up-to-date! :) Some time ago, I've inserted a bit of what I've learnt from here into http://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian, perhaps more competent users could do so, too?

megaexer

2010-02-17 14:39

Re: Easy Debian Diablo Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotTheMessiah (Post 492653)

oh and one more thing... this definatelt executes at least some stuff faster than maemo. dosbox for instance, had win3.1 installed as a proof of concept thing. ran verrrrry slow under maemo but when i fired it up in lxde it was so much faster perhaps even 3 or 4 times more responsive!

I tried to install Dosbox from Synaptic package manager, however it failed to download the 6th and 7th package (404 error). is there another way to install Dosbox in lxde? Thanks.

qole	2010-02-17 17:43

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

aechelon & awwaiid: I can't seem to hold back the pulseaudio packages, too many Squeeze apps depend on the .21 libraries. I wouldn't be surprised if my hack (swapping in some of the .15 client libraries) is causing the problem.

megaexer: If you are getting 404 errors, it means you need to download the package list again. You can do this from Synaptic by choosing Edit -> Reload Package Information.

I'm going to start adding these things to the wiki when I can. I just added the above advice to "Installing Applications".

arono

2010-02-17 17:43

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Just installed, took 40 minutes to extract and install with debian-m5-v2.img.ext2.bz2. No complaint, just want to tell you.

However isnt it possible to some of that on the pc?

edit.

A good tip, if you are searching for a package you know the name of in synaptic make sure you select 'search name only' much much faster :)

megaexer

2010-02-17 18:44

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

It worked, a simple one. Thanks qole.

n3vin

2010-02-17 20:05

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

installed dosbox 0.73 in easy-debian but i am having trouble getting any sound. :(

All times are GMT. The time now is 16:39.

Page 13 of 84

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

vBulletin® Version 3.8.8