Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

What kind of link you are talking about? can you show me a link example in any websites which you know?

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

i want to make a web page to browse in local, with a series of places, and when I click on a place, it shows up on maemo-mapper. The best thing would be through kml/kmz files (a la googleearth) but any trick will do.

Is there a way?

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

That is exactly I want to know, like you want to use kml or some file format.

I guess gnuite may not want to do this because after taking all the pain to develop such feature it got very limited usage after that. ....because not many websites using kml format,

but i guess by editing the MM source code and the browser settings you may able to make your tablet to do that. I have very limited knowledge about editing source code so i am not able to help you.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

I'm looking for a way to force maemo-mapper to go to a arbitrary position (nothing to enter).

I wonder how I can simulate a GPS device to do so?

My plan is to setup maemo-mapper so as it fetches the info to, say, /dev/tty10... then NMEA sentences to the dummy device.

Something like

exec 3<>/dev/tty10
echo "t$GPRMC,040302.663,A,3939.7,N,10506.6,W,0.27,358. 86,200804,,*1A" > /dev/tty20


I tried few things but nothing I can do as a poor linux user works. Can somebody give me some directions pleeaaaaaase?

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

I am interested in trying MM with nautical charts, has anyone done this?

What I have in mind is the following:

NOAA in the US publish free very detailed raster charts of US waters in 'BSB' format. (Many other countries publish in this format too, but they are not free). 'BSB' format uses a .kap image file - which looks like it can be converted to, for example, ( a huge) .tiff which can ultimately be processed by mapcruncher (http://research.microsoft.com/mapcruncher/) into a format that can be used by MM.

I have seen various posts (mostly by kempja) about making your own maps from images. Did these ever come to fruition?

FWIW. Here is a site (http://www.zoomatron.com) that has done something along these lines, only he has overlaid NOAA'a charts on to top Virtual Earth maps.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Hi all,

I'm very new to the N770, and I've got a bit of a problem, which was entirely self inflicted.
I was messing about with the settings and managed to delete the poi DB and mess up the map repositories. I read that the DB file should be recreated when the program starts, but this doesn't appear to happen.

So I thought i'd uninstall the program and reinstall it. But this hasn't fixed the problem. It still retains all my previous settings, despite being uninstalled.

Is there any way for me to completely wipe any retained settings for Maemo Mapper so that I can have a completely fresh install of it?

Thanks.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Run the following command in an xterm:

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Brilliant, that fixed it. Thanks very much!

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

hey fellas

do you have any idea how can i place an overlay on the existing map (for example, like in Google Maps/Earth)? i have a perfect piece of topographic maps for my location and it will be great to put those stuff on, for example, google maps data in Maemo Mapper.


thanx in advance!

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0.5 for N800 & web issue
 

Love Maemo Mapper. When I installed the new release 2.0.5 on my N800 it now crashes as soon as it tries connecting to the internet to download repositories. ANY advice?

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

I have just installed Maemo Mapper 2.05 on my N800. I'm impressed with all the new features. Way to go, gnuite!

I have a question about the way maps are stored. For Google Street maps, all the maps seem to be stored in a single file called GStreet.db. Is there a fuller discussion somewhere about this database file? I would like to know how I can inspect it to see which maps it contains. Is this a sqlite database?

When I installed 2.05, I had to start fresh with downloading all my maps again. No complaint there but I wonder what the best strategy is for doing something like this. I basically want to have the entire US at a fairly zoomed out level and then certain regions at various zoomed in levels. I end up redownloading maps because of the overlap of what is seen on the display. I had the very same issue when I tried to perform this operation when map files were stored in various subdirectories. This is a very hit-and-miss way to do it. Maybe it would be better if we could stage the collection of maps on our desktop and then transfer everthing over to the n800. That's the approach that Garmin Mapsource uses.

Related to the downloading of maps, why is it that when I try to use my desktop (Linux/Firefox) to go
http://mt.google.com/mt?n=404&v=w2.9...d&y=%d&zoom=%d
I get "The requested URL /mt?n=404&v=w2.999&x=%25d&y=%25d&zoom=%25d was not found on this server." What's the trick for downloading maps from google on the desktop?

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

No, it's a GDBM database. There is information about GDBM scattered around the internet.

As with v1.4.x, Maemo Mapper does not download maps that you already have, unless you explicitly enable the "Overwrite" option on the "Manage Maps" dialog. So, it's not really hit-and-miss. In fact, this is the way I cache maps onto my memory card.

The "%d" strings are substituted by Maemo Mapper depending on the particular tile that you want to download (which depends on your latitude and longitude).
Substitude real integer values to get maps. Not all integer combinations are valid, though. For example, substituting x=4, y=2, and zoom=14 will give you a very high-level map this displays much of Europe.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Thanks for the info. I'll look into GDBM. Is there a client for Maemo?

When I used the following url:
http://mt.google.com/mt?n=404&v=w2.9&x=4&y=2&zoom=14
I got the same error:

The requested URL /mt?n=404&v=w2.9&x=4&y=2&zoom=14 was not found on this server.

The problem doesn't seem like it's just with the numbers but it doesn't use the http;/ That's the problem I have been having all along. Is there url correct?

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Ah, I see the problem. The original URL that you posted was the "abbreviated" version that Internet Tablet Talk displays when you try to paste a long URL. If you go to the Maemo Mapper Repositories thread, you'll see URLs with ellipses ("...") in them, but if you right-click (or tap-and-hold on your Nokia device) and select "Copy Link Location", then the entire URL will be copied to the clipboard. That is the URL with the %d's that you need to replace.

FYI, the only problem with the URL in your latest post was the "version number" ("v=w2.9"). w2.9 is a very old version number that Google Maps deprecated long ago. The current version is up to w2.61, but since it's always changing (and since this hack seems to work), I recommend using w2.999. Specifying a greater-than-the-current-maximum version forces Google to use the latest version, and it means you won't have to worry about updating the version number every time it's deprecated.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

I actually put in the url without the v=w2.9 and it got me a map. The v-w2.9 was the thing that was killing it. I then put in the following url as you suggested:
http://mt.google.com/mt?v=w2.999&x=4&y=2&zoom=14
and it worked fine. Maybe we don't even have to use the version parameter. Here it is without the version:
http://mt.google.com/mt?x=4&y=2&zoom=14

Thank you for taking the time to help with this. This whole issue with downloading these maps is somewhat mysterious and now I think I understand it. I wonder what other parameters can be used. I now can write some Perl code that will do my own bulk downloads to my desktop. I will try to write up a wiki on this. Not sure how to post it to the maemo wiki but I may post it to may own website. I may include the Perl code as well.

Thanks for all the help.

rhackenb

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

To find a destination you need to be on the internet to get the route?

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Yes. Maemo Mapper doesn't have access to road information, because it is free and that data is generally expensive. It can be retrieved from an internet-based web service, however, which does have access to road information.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Have you seen new Google Terrain map? It would be cool to add it into repository.

Thanks, BTW. I love the app.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

I figured this out yesterday. I spent quite a bit of time messing with it, but ultimately, it's quite simple. As you said, you start with mapcruncher and the tiff of the chart. You recalibrate it and let map cruncher do its rendering into tiles. And then what you're left with are tile files in the same format/naming convention that Virtual Earth uses internally. So what's left to do is roll your own Virtual Earth style map repository, which can be done simply by dumping the tile files into a directory of a handy web server and creating a repository in Maemo Mapper. I have a web server running locally on a computer on my home network with an address of 192.168.0.9, and the tiles are in a web server directory called tiles, so the url looks like:

http://192.168.0.9/tiles

and the Maemo mapper repository url looks like:

http://192.158.0.9/tiles/%0s.png

Then I used the maemo mapper auto downloading to pull in the chart. Using another repository, I navigated to the chart area, then switched to my chart repository and scrolled around to bring in the chart.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

MarkW,
192.168.0.9 is an address within your home network and is not visible to the outside world. You may have that server visible from the outside but it will probably be an address assigned to you by your provide.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Right, that's just an example. You wouldn't want access to my server anyway, because it'd only have the tiles on it from whatever chart I was working on. So if you want to use this method, you'd want to run Mapcruncher on the map or chart you want to use in Maemo Mapper and them copy the resulting tile files to a local web server directory on a computer on your home network (or your ISP may be providing you with space for web hosting -- you could upload your tile files to that as an alternative).

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Just bought a GPS and have been playing with MaemoMapper. Seems to work beautifully! I've found the GPS Info page but can't find more advanced functions like "minutes until arriving at waypoint" or "estimated time of arrival" that my Garmin GPS has. Are such functions out of the scope of this program?

Either way, just wanted to say thanks for an awesome program and keep up the good work.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

I would like to have a feature where, when you have a route loaded, you can have a display of distance to the end of the route or to a waypoint that stays on the screen. Currently that information only stays up on the screen for a second or two.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

I used MM on a road trip for the first time today, and found one annoyance. At highway speeds, the "Processing maps..." dialog is displayed constantly - it never goes away, and it covers stuff I want to see now and then, such as battery status. It covers the entire status tray in the upper right-hand corner. I know it's processing maps, and I don't need to see that at all times. Is it possible to not display this?

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

if i understand correctly this is when Auto-download feature is on, if you're not downloading, turn it off. but i'm not exactly sure.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

No, it has nothing to do with downloading. It's on when I'm driving down the highway with no internet connection. It's reading the maps previously downloaded, and processing them for display, AFAIK. The dialog stays up full time, because at 65 mph the processor has to work hard to keep up.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

will mapper work on the N810 ?

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

As has been indicated by posts in this thread, and its presence in Chinook Extras, yes.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

What would be the best way to go about installing Maemo Mapper on my N800 with OS2008? I've been trying several ways but either the installation file is currupt, or some other small files are missing.

I've come across the file maemo-mapper 2.2-os2008 armel.deb

I think thats the correct one, but once it downloads and installs, it tells me: "Application packages missing: libgdbm3"

Where can I get this libgdbm3 from and how do I go about installing it? I've heard of something called a reposetory, but im not exactly sure what that is, but is that what the libgdbm3 file is?

Thanks for your time in advance.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Its been sorted, for anyone else having same/similair problems, look here: http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...279#post117279

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

HongKong maps works great. I am still having problem using the above URL for china. When zoom in 18-19, I see most of china but not all, it somehow mixes up with India map. And everytime I zoom, the India map showed up. I can scroll around China only under zoom level 7, very strange. To go from Beijing at Zoom level 7 to Canton (South of China) will take hours. Any thoughts?
I tried to use view>go to "Hongkong" (which is next to Canton), but the india map showed up again, very buzzare.

Bottom line, I can see northern china city down to street level, but not southern/western china, Canton. Using Google Street, as other poster posted, only see the name of the city.


I am running N800/2008/int flash boot/MM 2.2

EDIT: I kind of figure out. The Indian map is like a "screen saver", it popped up whenever it waits for map to download. Why the indian map is a "screen saver" I have no earthly idea. Anyhow, I download the China maps first by dl map by area and Zoom set to a comfortable level, it works.


bun

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Well, google does provide a detailed version of Chinese map, only in Chinese:
http://ditu.google.cn/maps?hl=zh-CN&tab=wl

It gives the zoom level from 0 to 17 as well, the url is like
http://servicetile.mapabc.com/google...=&y=%d&zoom=%d

In Canton, level 0 Guazhou city map block looks like
http://servicetile.mapabc.com/google...oom=0&s=Galile

It works exactly same as the English version google map, just with some url address changes. The coordination numbersing uses the same system.

The only thing you need is knowing Chinese to use it. If you don't know, a detailed version English map is useless anyway, since in China they don't label street in English and most guys don't know how to name street in English.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Thanks.

I will try those URL links, again, see how it turn out. I do know some Chinese. I have fiqure out a way to navigate around, I use satellite and see whether I can match up with local buildings. And then pair with open street hybrid, which has satellite and street name in english, some of them. Regarding English street name, you are correct, there is none. However, the highway and overhead directions are both Chinese and English (I just returned 5 days ago from China), but the exit signs are ONLY Chinese! Or at east the highway segments between Canton, Pearl Sea, HongKong are like that. Yes, the overhead hiway info are bilingual, but the exit info are ONLY Chinese. Either they are in the process of upgrading, or the process of upgrading have been abort, or those top administrators think 50% English is good enough :p



bun

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

I bought a N800 before Xmas, and has been playing with it since then. Currently I have MM 1.4.7 installed, it works pretty well.

Some issues I found:

It crashes my SD card from time to time, I have to pull the card to fix the file system on PC. Browsing the map to download is slow, esp for the detailed maps, due to the small screen of the tablet.

I use the winmapper in PC to download map tiles, but it's not convenient as browsing download capability. So two days ago I decided to write a utility to do the same in Windows, and now it's basically done. You browse google map with IE, after that the tool will pull all map tiles from IE cache and organize them in z/x/y.jpg directory structure, just like MM does - so you do that in PC and it's much faster to download, since PC has a big screen.

The issue with z/x/y.jpg structure is that it takes too much space, I found 40m map tiles take >200m space, 80% space wasted. I am considering now to upgrade to MM 2.2. The question is MM 2.2 will use much less space since it uses DBM, how about its speed efficency? Anybody has comment on it?

I will upgrade my tool to support the new DBM map data, let it convert the map tiles from z/x/y.jpg structure into DBM database, so map downloading for MM 2.2 will be done in PC as well. I am not very good at Linux programming and have a question for John: in reading the MM source code, I found both sqlite3 and GDBM are used for map data storage. My question is which is better? Anybody having experience in both systems?

I need some comments about those.

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Two simple questions:

1) Can one drag the statement box away from the upper right corner? Sometime it is block views and can't be turn off, then drag away will be helpful.

2) Is there a way to find out the exact naming of the address location? For example, under google map, view>go to> hongkong, that will take me to hongkong. But under googlechina map, go to china result in "invalid address", thus we can only use it like a map, nothing more. Cannot search, cannot go to....I know it is no fair to ask you for a language you dont know. It boils down to, is there anyway to tell what does the map name that location, other than the familiar name?


TIA,

bun

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

I really like Maemo Mapper... Now I can finally see maps for my country (Chile)... Nokia's app doesn't include South America.

I'd like to know if you guys could help me... Google Maps and VEarth have chilean maps but they are very limited (doesn't show streets/shows streets where there are none) so I'm trying to use maps found on this address: http://www.mapas.emol.com/ (spanish)... the question is... How do you get the url for maemo mapper?

Thanks in advance:)!

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

With Firefox's Firebug, I could Inspect a tile (in Santiago) and the url looks like this:

http://www.mapas.emol.com/tile.php?m...__base__&i=png

"t=xxx" seems to correspond to x
"l=xxx" seems to correspond to y
"s=xxx" seems to correspond to zoom

But it doesn't correspond (approximatively compared with google map):
t=37632 != x=310
l=-79616 != y=-613
s=280000 != z=12

Entering this :
http://www.mapas.emol.com/tile.php?m...10&l=-613&s=12
result in an interresting error :
Warning: fopen(D:/kacache/RM/12/def/def/t0/l-1536/t310l-613.png) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: ...

Now we need an expert in coordinates ^^

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

Thanks a lot for your answer, Murphy...

I didn't know how to get the links (I'll try firebug as soon as I come back home)...
Well, if anyone is able to get the link for maemo mapper, I'll be very grateful. I'll try to play with it later in the afternoon.

Cheers

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

I have a few questions about maemo mapper

I just installed Maemo Mapper 2.3.1 and it looks like a typical map program. Does it have something like a car GPS system where it tells you when to turn and give directions? if not, which program can?

Also, I am still waiting for my SD card to come in and i heard the maps for USA were big. is there anyway i can start downloading them now on my desktop and transfer it onto my N800? Where do I go to download them?

Re: Maemo Mapper v1.4 for 770/N800
 

I suggest the forum search feature, your asking some very basic questions that have been answered numerous times before.