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hqh	2010-10-28 15:39

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by netfortius (Post 855265)

It is 1. (ssu apps), 2. (ssu 002) and , & 3. (which I will disable - as expected and commented originally - OVI - unsupported in FAppMan, right?) which seem to be broken - are you suggesting the change in description field on1. & 2. , from ./ to fremantle-1.3?

Quote:

Originally Posted by netfortius (Post 855203)

1. fremantle ssu apps
https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/
./
2. fremantle ssu 002
https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/002/
./

I am using those settings myself and they work fine. The only difference being that I have "mr0" in place of "002", but that's due to a different regional variant I think.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndi (Post 855269)

How about a button or menu to re-import settings from HAM? Like it does on first install?

Yeah, might be a good idea.

Changegames

2010-10-29 12:52

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

can anybody share the deb file from fapman version 6.5-1 please... tnx

DrWilken

2010-10-29 22:23

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Changegames (Post 856543)

can anybody share the deb file from fapman version 6.5-1 please... tnx

Use Package Search:
http://maemo.org/packages/

Changegames

2010-10-30 02:36

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

all the 6.5-1 version is deleted and it redirects me to an error site can anybody share there deb? tnx so much...

zerocool2k

2010-10-31 13:08

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Does anyone experience slow catalog update since yesterday? Usually it takes 1-2 mins (I have all extra, testing, devel...). But it has taken 9-10 mins since yesterday.

DrWilken

2010-10-31 13:20

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerocool2k (Post 858440)

Does anyone experience slow catalog update since yesterday? Usually it takes 1-2 mins (I have all extra, testing, devel...). But it has taken 9-10 mins since yesterday.

Yes, same here. guess the repos are a bit overloaded...

Pavol

2010-10-31 14:13

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

yes 9 - 13 min

E.D.U.

2010-10-31 19:34

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Yea, it's been taking me a while as well to update my catalogs. I guess all we can do is give it some time to see if it speeds back up.

Xemaniac

2010-11-01 16:11

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

I am having problems updating the Extras-devel repo, all others work fine.
Devel repo works fine in native appman but not in Fapman.
I tried to update them one at a time and devel was the weak link. Any ideas as to why?

Fixed.
Changed "Fremantle" to "fremantle". Odd how a capital letter can screw things up. I wonder why they say that a " mobile computer with telephone functionality " is smarter than a human.

Bingley Joe

2010-11-02 17:03

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

As of today, Fapman is spontaneously quitting on me when trying to fetch date information on packages (either while attempting to access Install/Upgrade, or when querying Changelogs)..

Anyone else having this trouble?

handaxe

2010-11-02 19:52

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

no trouble for me at the mo'; slowdowns of days past gone....

Bingley Joe

2010-11-03 02:20

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by handaxe (Post 861324)

no trouble for me at the mo'; slowdowns of days past gone....

It's working for me again :) Must've been some server-side goblins

hqh	2010-11-09 22:01

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Version 0.6.7

* fix: blacklist can get unintentionally cleared
* fix: show free space correctly for large filesystems
* connect to default network access point if there is no connection
* scale package icons to proper size in the package details dialog
* menu item to re-import repository settings from HAM
* automatically disable the ovi repository on import
* minor UI tweaks

cincibluer6

2010-11-09 22:27

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Question- I deleted and then added the extras (+dev, etc.) repos to try and fix a conflicting repo problem. I guess it still isn't fixed but now fappman refuses to recognize the new repos. Anything I can plug in the terminal to make it "see" them?

shazosbourne

2010-11-10 02:55

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Where do I find the log file? I keep getting unknown error.
Can't install or upgrade applications. HAM works fine.

cincibluer6

2010-11-10 03:38

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

@shazosbourne
Click on the title bar- log is in there.

shazosbourne

2010-11-10 04:20

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cincibluer6 (Post 868728)

@shazosbourne
Click on the title bar- log is in there.

Doh!

Thanks.

Log gave these results. Any ideas on fixing this?

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
libtpsession libqtm-serviceframework libqt4-declarative libqtm-multimedia
libqtm-publishsubscribe libconninet0 libqtm-messaging qtm-modest-plugin
libpoppler2 dsme-thermalobject-surface libqtm-versit libconnsettings0
libqtm-bearer libqt4-translations libtelepathy-qt4-0 libqtm-systeminfo
Hmm, seems like the AutoRemover destroyed something which really
shouldn't happen. Please file a bug report against apt.

The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
qtm-maemo-metapackage: Depends: libqtm-bearer (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-messaging (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-multimedia (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-publishsubscribe (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-serviceframework (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-systeminfo (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqtm-versit (>= 1:1.0.2-maemo1) but it is not going to be installed
E: Internal Error, AutoRemover broke stuff

x-lette

2010-11-10 12:57

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Hi, would it be possible to add an option to the app to reinstall already installed packages? Like on commandline when using apt-get install --reinstall <package>. It's sometimes needed to fix things (like going back from u-boot to power-kernel) but apt-get on commandline uses HAM's sources.list where I have less repos installed as in fapman, therefore reinstall on commandline doesn't work out of the box.
Would be very nice if that could be implemented! :)
Thanks in advance!

hawaii

2010-11-10 13:19

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Why have you disabled the Ovi repository?

x-lette

2010-11-10 13:36

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

I didn't. If you mean power-kernel: it's in extras-devel and not in ovi.

hawaii

2010-11-10 13:47

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

The above is not directed to you.

@hqh;

Why are you disabling the Ovi repository?

WhiteWolf

2010-11-10 14:04

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Improvements Stupendous!

OVI disabling, why?

Rob1n

2010-11-10 15:50

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWolf (Post 869193)

OVI disabling, why?

Presumably because the apps don't show up by default (because they're all in the hidden section) and the standard apt-get package doesn't allow installation from the Ovi repository.

hqh	2010-11-10 15:57

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawaii (Post 869178)

Why are you disabling the Ovi repository?

You can't install packages from there with fapman/apt-get anyway, and it might conflict with other repositories witch have packages with same names (for example firefox installation might fail if Ovi repository is enabled)

shallimus

2010-11-10 17:14

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

hqh: have been using fapman for around 30 days now. Funny name (as others have noted :rolleyes:), but...

Fantastic work!
Your work has brought a new lease of life to my N900! Without a doubt this is my favourite N900 app.

I love fapman more than Angry Birds :D

I no longer dread installing/updating/removing packages/software. The built-in App Manager isn't hard to use (although it won't win any interface design prizes), it's just hard to stay awake long enough to achieve your goals with it. apt-get is great for specific surgery, but we need a GUI to get everyday stuff done.

Faster Application Manager is a massive improvement on the stock App Manager in every way I can think of. As a result I actually do maintain/prune now and my user experience is sleeker, smoother and generally more productive and more fun.

I have no bugs to report yet, and the recent interface update means I now have no interface suggestions either. Please keep developing this (probably Meego will need something similar in the future...?) I have sent you a [very small] token of my appreciation.

BluesLee

2010-11-10 17:19

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

@hqh: is there a "hidden" command which can be triggered
from the command line and updates the catalogs (fapman
cache)? i want to use it with alarmed in order to browse offline
new packages from extras-devel etc

Blues

Rob1n

2010-11-10 18:11

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluesLee (Post 869411)

I've set up a couple of scripts to allow working with the fapman catalogs:

/usr/local/bin/fapt-get

Code:

#!/bin/sh



apt-get -o=Dir::Etc::sourcelist=/opt/fapman-cache/sources.list -o=Dir::State::lists=/opt/fapman-cache/lists $*

/usr/local/bin/fapt-cache

Code:

#!/bin/sh



apt-cache -o=Dir::Etc::sourcelist=/opt/fapman-cache/sources.list -o=Dir::State::lists=/opt/fapman-cache/lists $*

DrWilken

2010-11-10 18:16

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 869469)

I've set up a couple of scripts to allow working with the fapman catalogs:

/usr/local/bin/fapt-get

Code:

#!/usr/bin/sh



apt-get -o=Dir::Etc::sourcelist=/opt/fapman-cache/sources.list -o=Dir::State::lists=/opt/fapman-cache/lists $*

/usr/local/bin/fapt-cache

Code:

apt-cache -o=Dir::Etc::sourcelist=/opt/fapman-cache/sources.list -o=Dir::State::lists=/opt/fapman-cache/lists $*

Maybe they should be included in next version of fapman... ;)

Nice names btw... :)

I'm using bash so I removed the #! from fapt-get though... ;)

Rob1n

2010-11-10 18:42

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrWilken (Post 869472)

Maybe they should be included in next version of fapman... ;)

Nice names btw... :)

I'm using bash so I removed the #! from fapt-get though... ;)

Bah, that should have been '#!/bin/sh' for both scripts, and it doesn't matter what shell you're using.

DrWilken

2010-11-10 18:45

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 869496)

Bah, that should have been '#!/bin/sh' for both scripts, and it doesn't matter what shell you're using.

Well, /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/busybox so if I want to use bash I can either leave it out or put #!/bin/bash in there instead... :)

hqh	2010-11-10 19:23

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by shazosbourne (Post 868750)

Log gave these results. Any ideas on fixing this?

You might try disabling "autoremove unneeded (automatically installed) packages" in options. It does not fix the actual problem with your packages but might help getting around it. Maybe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shallimus (Post 869407)

I have no bugs to report yet, and the recent interface update means I now have no interface suggestions either. Please keep developing this (probably Meego will need something similar in the future...?) I have sent you a [very small] token of my appreciation.

Thanks! :)
It's likely that FAM will be available for the future MeeGo-Harmattan which still uses debian package management. Actual MeeGo uses rpm so it would require a lot more work... I hope that the default package manager UIs of the future OSs are better than Maemo 5's, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 869469)

Code:

#!/bin/sh

apt-get -o=Dir::Etc::sourcelist=/opt/fapman-cache/sources.list -o=Dir::State::lists=/opt/fapman-cache/lists $*

You might want to add -o Dir::Etc::sourceparts=\"\" to ensure that sourceparts from the default location won't get used.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrWilken (Post 869472)

Maybe they should be included in next version of fapman... ;)

That's a very good idea.

ndi	2010-11-11 10:49

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Could we please get "kept back" support for apt? I spent time digging conflicts again only to realize latest recaller has been kept back.

fadimck

2010-11-11 13:09

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

seriously, thank you for this faster App Manager, i 'm using it now as a the key program instead of the stock one..

DrWilken

2010-11-13 10:45

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by hqh (Post 869548)

You might want to add -o Dir::Etc::sourceparts=\"\" to ensure that sourceparts from the default location won't get used.

That explains why I got these errors when running fapt-get update:

Code:

...

W: Duplicate sources.list entry https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages (/opt/fapman-cache/lists/downloads.maemo.nokia.com_fremantle_ssu_apps_._Packages)

W: Duplicate sources.list entry https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages (/opt/fapman-cache/lists/downloads.maemo.nokia.com_fremantle_ssu_mr0_._Packages)

W: Duplicate sources.list entry https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages (/opt/fapman-cache/lists/downloads.maemo.nokia.com_fremantle1.2_ovi_._Packages)

W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Packages (/opt/fapman-cache/lists/repository.maemo.org_extras_dists_fremantle-1.3_free_binary-armel_Packages)

W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/non-free Packages (/opt/fapman-cache/lists/repository.maemo.org_extras_dists_fremantle-1.3_non-free_binary-armel_Packages)

W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages (/opt/fapman-cache/lists/repository.maemo.org_extras-devel_dists_fremantle_free_binary-armel_Packages)

W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/non-free Packages (/opt/fapman-cache/lists/repository.maemo.org_extras-devel_dists_fremantle_non-free_binary-armel_Packages)

W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages (/opt/fapman-cache/lists/repository.maemo.org_extras-testing_dists_fremantle_free_binary-armel_Packages)

W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/non-free Packages (/opt/fapman-cache/lists/repository.maemo.org_extras-testing_dists_fremantle_non-free_binary-armel_Packages)

W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

Thanks ;)

James_Littler

2010-11-15 15:46

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Hi, cheers for fapman.

I noticed you updated fapman recently so that it opens a connection (if not open already) but I've found a bug.

If I have autodisconnect installed (as I imaging alot of people do) It closes the wifi/data connection after x amounts of minutes.

So say I do the following

1. Open fapman, it connects for me and I find what I want to install
2. Someone asks me to do something, I put the phone down and leave it for 10 mins, in which time auto-disconnect disconnects my inactive connection.
3. I come back to the phone, click X, then > to continue.
4. I am given an error about the lack of connection.

I hope this helps

N900MAN

2010-11-15 22:42

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

great improvement from the default appman!

i just wanted to mention small details that i didnt see in fapman that was in the original appman and that is the information of how much memory the selected application for download uses when installed and its install size(not just its download size). I have only used this app today so maybe i overlooked those, but at the details page for any application selected for download this information wasnt present.

Another suggestion that i would love to see in this app manager is to incorporate the rating/feedback information of all applications available for download. So then evaluating and downloading apps can be done in one place rather than opening the webpage for the app in question too look at rating and feedback.

thanks again for this program!

extendedping

2010-11-18 14:29

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

question...what exactly does update catelogues do? when I open the app am I to always hit that first if I want to get the latest apps? or just hit upgrade applications?

thanks.

debernardis

2010-11-18 15:11

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Since today, fapman stalls at "Operation in progress - reading package list - creating package view" and never shows the packages. I have purged and reinstalled fapman some times, also erasing the /opt/fapman-cache directory, but it always hangs there.

HAM and apt-get work.

How can I debug the problem? Thanks

x-lette

2010-11-18 15:24

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by extendedping (Post 877116)

question...what exactly does update catelogues do? when I open the app am I to always hit that first if I want to get the latest apps? or just hit upgrade applications?

apt (and all programs on top of apt like HAM and fapman) works like this: referenced by a sources.list it grabs some informational catalogues form specified repositories and builds some kind of lokal database out of them. This lokal database you can use as long as you want to but it is only as actual as your last update. Therefore it is usable for offline searching in the database but you will not see newer updates until you re-download the catalogues again (e.g. run the update).
Upgrading instead means bringing an installed application to a newer version. This requires in first place to have an updated database of available applications (e.g. having run the update). Of course, for updating as well as upgrading you need a connection to the internet.

x-lette

2010-11-18 15:29

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)

Quote:

Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 877141)

After erasing the cache directory you updated the catalogues and after reinstalling you verified there are repos activated?
Did you have a look at fapamns log (in the menu)?
Did you try the commandline tools like in http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=508 ? If so, what do these commands tell you?

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