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firstknight 2010-11-15 09:59

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Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 873751)
I think the problem here is that you have folder /usr/share/fonts existing while Theme Customizer imports fonts to /usr/share/.fonts

My theory is that the "fonts" folder without dot takes over the "dotted" one and that's why fonts imported by theme customizer aren't showing up. Solution would be to move all your fonts to /usr/share/.fonts and then remove the non-dotted fonts -directory.

hmmm i dont find the .font folder there.. all i see is ~fonts which is where i put my fonts folder in...

d-iivil 2010-11-15 10:19

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Originally Posted by firstknight (Post 873824)
hmmm i dont find the .font folder there.. all i see is ~fonts which is where i put my fonts folder in...

Okay, then that's the reason why importer fails to work. I'll add "check if .fonts exists" into my script and make it create that folder if it doesn't exist.

Strange that you don't have that folder, since I have it and I just made complete reflash (including emmc) and that folder is there by default.

droll 2010-11-15 10:31

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speaking of fonts, the font changing option is very nice and from memory, the most complete one i.e. the font is changed *almost* everywhere (vs other implementtions i have seen. but to be fair, the others are wip). the only hitch now is when a window pops up, the title of the window is still in the default nokia sans font.

to repo, go to settings and click on Theme. the title of the popup window, "Select a theme", is in the default font. is there anyway to change this to make it a complete system-wide font change?

N900@900MHz 2010-11-15 10:49

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i like theme customizer! works very well thank you for that

d-iivil 2010-11-15 11:54

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Originally Posted by droll (Post 873844)
speaking of fonts, the font changing option is very nice and from memory, the most complete one i.e. the font is changed *almost* everywhere (vs other implementtions i have seen. but to be fair, the others are wip). the only hitch now is when a window pops up, the title of the window is still in the default nokia sans font.

to repo, go to settings and click on Theme. the title of the popup window, "Select a theme", is in the default font. is there anyway to change this to make it a complete system-wide font change?

Stupid Nokia has hard coded that value not to follow what theme tells to use. So only option to change that is to overwrite the original Nokia Sans font file with font you want.

Changegames 2010-11-15 12:28

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thanks again for making this app better and better... working great so far.
i like the fast transitions i just wanna know where its located what folder so i can just replace the default transitions.ini file.

droll 2010-11-15 12:43

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Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 873925)
Stupid Nokia has hard coded that value not to follow what theme tells to use. So only option to change that is to overwrite the original Nokia Sans font file with font you want.

what???? they hard coded it? those fools. i don't know why but when i think "open source" i tend to think not-hard-coded. sigh. oh well, when i get bored i may just replace that font.

thanks for the information. keep up the good work!!!

d-iivil 2010-11-15 12:54

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Originally Posted by Changegames (Post 873968)
thanks again for making this app better and better... working great so far.
i like the fast transitions i just wanna know where its located what folder so i can just replace the default transitions.ini file.

You can find it from /opt/theme-customizer/transitions.ini

Theme Customizer places it under your current theme so it's not system-wide by default :-) It also creates backup of your current transitions.ini (if one is available at current theme's folder) and it's restored if you choose not to use my bundled transitions @ Theme Customizer.

d-iivil 2010-11-15 12:56

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Originally Posted by droll (Post 873981)
what???? they hard coded it? those fools. i don't know why but when i think "open source" i tend to think not-hard-coded. sigh. oh well, when i get bored i may just replace that font.

thanks for the information. keep up the good work!!!

Maemo 5 is full of hardcoded font definitions, that's the main reason there's so few light themes. In many applications Nokia has hard coded white or almost white font to be used no matter what theme is telling. But in their endless wisdom they haven't hard coded the background colors, so if you have theme with light background, you'll end up unreadable texts here and there since the font is forced to be white...

firstknight 2010-11-15 14:21

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Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 873835)
Okay, then that's the reason why importer fails to work. I'll add "check if .fonts exists" into my script and make it create that folder if it doesn't exist.

Strange that you don't have that folder, since I have it and I just made complete reflash (including emmc) and that folder is there by default.

ok.. thanks for helping... just strange that it didnt work for me.. nevertheless i just copy into the ~fonts and everything is ok.. just that it doesnt work with ln -s method...

d-iivil 2010-11-15 15:37

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Originally Posted by firstknight (Post 874085)
ok.. thanks for helping... just strange that it didnt work for me.. nevertheless i just copy into the ~fonts and everything is ok.. just that it doesnt work with ln -s method...

Heh, no problem with helping :)
Version 0.9-51 is @ devel and it includes checking if the import target directory exists so it should be more failproof :)

Please test it out and report if you can now import (and use) fonts with the tool.

firstknight 2010-11-16 10:35

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err..... you mean i delete my folder then do the import?

d-iivil 2010-11-16 12:01

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Originally Posted by firstknight (Post 874864)
err..... you mean i delete my folder then do the import?

No, you don't have to do anything. Version 0.9-51 automaticly creates the .fonts -folder if it doesn't exist and it seems to co-operate with fonts -folder nicely (fonts from both folders are found).

droll 2010-11-16 15:46

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d-iivil - do u know if this talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65709 is a result of using theme customizer?

AlMehdi 2010-11-17 15:56

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I am almost done with the AwOken Icon Theme now. Have been sitting with it the last week. I have also spoken with the original author and he is okay with it (a really nice guy actually).

Could you pack it to a deb and put it up in the repo D-livil? If possible it would be nice if it could give alecive87 credit in the pkg-info linking to his deviantart page. Awoken_icons-0.9

Also.. if someone know i would like to know how to change the date part of the Calender Home Widget.

d-iivil 2010-11-17 16:34

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Originally Posted by AlMehdi (Post 876173)
I am almost done with the AwOken Icon Theme now. Have been sitting with it the last week. I have also spoken with the original author and he is okay with it (a really nice guy actually).

Could you pack it to a deb and put it up in the repo D-livil? If possible it would be nice if it could give alecive87 credit in the pkg-info linking to his deviantart page. Awoken_icons-0.9

Also.. if someone know i would like to know how to change the date part of the Calender Home Widget.

Looks nice! Sure I can send it to repos :) Just mail me the pack: ricky@hevikaraoke.fi

gabby131 2010-11-17 16:37

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Originally Posted by AlMehdi (Post 876173)
I am almost done with the AwOken Icon Theme now. Have been sitting with it the last week. I have also spoken with the original author and he is okay with it (a really nice guy actually).

Could you pack it to a deb and put it up in the repo D-livil? If possible it would be nice if it could give alecive87 credit in the pkg-info linking to his deviantart page. Awoken_icons-0.9

Also.. if someone know i would like to know how to change the date part of the Calender Home Widget.

Simplicity is beauty! that's what i call this.........if this becomes available, im gonna grab it.

Thanks

d-iivil 2010-11-17 16:38

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Originally Posted by droll (Post 875144)
d-iivil - do u know if this talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65709 is a result of using theme customizer?

As I answered on that thread: yes and no :D
No in the matter that it's a bug in clock app that makes it go grazy if it doesn't like your secondary font color. Yes in the matter if you changed the color with Theme Customizer and spotted one of these "not wanted" colors.

So far I haven't found any logic of which colors causes this bug and since the clock app seems to be closed source, I can't look into it's source and maybe even provide patch for it :(

AlMehdi 2010-11-17 18:41

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Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 876207)
Looks nice! Sure I can send it to repos :) Just mail me the pack: ricky@hevikaraoke.fi

Great! Thanks! I mail it to you at once.. For those who cant wait.. just download the 7zip file i linked to in my previous post and unpack it to /usr/share/icons/

AlMehdi 2010-11-17 21:04

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Looks awesome D-livil.. found it in the repos now. The description was exactly as i wanted it ;)

Big Ash 2010-11-17 21:54

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was wondering if someone could help me, not a power user so please bear with me.

i have downloaded a font and saved it in a fonts folder in mydocs, when trying to import font from theme customiser, i open the folder and it is empty, what am i doing wrong?

d-iivil 2010-11-17 22:39

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Originally Posted by Big Ash (Post 876466)
was wondering if someone could help me, not a power user so please bear with me.

i have downloaded a font and saved it in a fonts folder in mydocs, when trying to import font from theme customiser, i open the folder and it is empty, what am i doing wrong?

Just tap the folder name one more time once you've navigated into that folder and the import process will start.

Example:
- tap top menu => import fonts
- tap "N900"
- tap folder called "fonts" (this is just an example)
- tap the folder name again to start import

That's how Qt folder chooser works. You want to choose folder, not single file. You can place multiple fonts into that folder and the importer will import all of them at once.

Big Ash 2010-11-17 22:45

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Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 876518)
Just tap the folder name one more time once you've navigated into that folder and the import process will start.

Example:
- tap top menu => import fonts
- tap "N900"
- tap folder called "fonts" (this is just an example)
- tap the folder name again to start import

That's how Qt folder chooser works. You want to choose folder, not single file. You can place multiple fonts into that folder and the importer will import all of them at once.

worked a treat. i dont know y i didnt try that myself, so straight forward

thanks very much

gabby131 2010-11-18 00:54

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im thinking what kind of mix is superb with awoken theme.

what i have in mind is the android theme or blue sky theme with carbon/array/humanity wallpapers.

GaRy delaMEr 2010-11-18 11:26

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Hi

French translation version 0.9-51.

hermes040 2010-11-18 19:08

Re: [Announce / WIP] Theme Customizer - customize your N900
 
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Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 870025)
There's no need for overwriting, it "overwrites" the current theme all the time (and creates backups) when you use Theme Customizer. So please explain to me why do you want to be able to overwrite you existing theme.

Hi d-iivil, first of all congratulations for your newborn.
Let me explain my reason for overwrite: suppose I want to create a new theme, based on Theme A, I make changes and save as MyTheme. Later if I change my mind and make it different, let's say based on Theme B, I change to Theme B first, make mods and now it's time to save as MyTheme, which is impossible as Theme Customizer say it exist.
If you change the "save as new" to just "save as" and ask "overwrite y/n?" if already exist, I think will be nice. Not a big issue but just my 2 c.

d-iivil 2010-11-18 19:11

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Originally Posted by hermes040 (Post 877306)
Hi d-iivil, first of all congratulations for your newborn.
Let me explain my reason for overwrite: suppose I want to create a new theme, based on Theme A, I make changes and save as MyTheme. Later if I change my mind and make it different, let's say based on Theme B, I change to Theme B first, make mods and now it's time to save as MyTheme, which is impossible as Theme Customizer say it exist.
If you change the "save as new" to just "save as" and ask "overwrite y/n?" if already exist, I think will be nice. Not a big issue but just my 2 c.

Your explanation makes sense, I'll add the overwrite option in next release :) I guess I need to make it so that it's only possible to overwrite themes that are created with theme customizer so users can't accidently (or on purpose) overwrite system themes etc...

fasza2 2010-11-18 22:51

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Hi d-iivil, I had problem changing iconsets from one to another and I would get the stock icons instead of the custom ones. Uninstalling some of the custom themes (the ones not using theme-customizer) seemed to solve the problem, so my best guess that they aren't compatible. I'll give you a list of them if you're interested.

The save and reboot function didn't/doesn't? work for me either. Well up to the shutdown part it did... Didn't test them since though and can't remember if it worked before.

More of a feature request: What do you think about making the app more of a theme manager. I mean adding features like downloading themes and icon sets and maybe fonts via apt-get/wget, preview them before download. Possibility to change everything indipendently without having to mess about with the files...
It would be the best (in my opinion) if themes and such wouldn't even show up in the default app manager, although thats probably not up to you or me.

Nevertheless, thanks for the app, I think it already is a good-to-have, but I think it easily could be a must-have, just keep it up mate.

D4rKlar 2010-11-18 23:03

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Voted.

Kind Regards,
D4rK

mrexcess 2010-11-18 23:58

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Not sure if this belongs here or in the icon teme post but ill try here.

Im trying to customise the HydroCarbon theme with theme Customiser to use the AwOken Icon theme, pretty sure im doing it right but when i save and reboot im getting the same icons back, anyone had similar issues with this or another icon theme set?

(using latest version of theme customiser via -dev repo, installed it and it instantly had an update wich i ran so im on 0.9-52)

Link to the icon theme im using: Aw0ken

Link to the theme im trying to customise: hydrocarbon-theme

Is it perhaps that the HydoCarbon theme type has compatability issues with customiser?

thanks for the work done on the customiser btw :D

droll 2010-11-18 23:58

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Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 876213)
As I answered on that thread: yes and no :D
No in the matter that it's a bug in clock app that makes it go grazy if it doesn't like your secondary font color. Yes in the matter if you changed the color with Theme Customizer and spotted one of these "not wanted" colors.

So far I haven't found any logic of which colors causes this bug and since the clock app seems to be closed source, I can't look into it's source and maybe even provide patch for it :(

thank you. i decided i like my secondary font colour more than the alarm app so i'll have to live with the bug. :)

i still think it's a very silly bug from Nokia!

thanks again.

fasza2 2010-11-19 01:34

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Originally Posted by mrexcess (Post 877519)
Is it perhaps that the HydoCarbon theme type has compatability issues with customiser?

I think that's what it is. I had the same problem.

mrexcess 2010-11-19 01:45

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Originally Posted by fasza2 (Post 877566)
I think that's what it is. I had the same problem.

hmm weird, tried it with the default theme (Nokia Nseries) that didn't like it either, concerned I'm just 'doing it wrong' ill keep playing about and report back.

d-iivil 2010-11-19 02:08

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Originally Posted by mrexcess (Post 877570)
hmm weird, tried it with the default theme (Nokia Nseries) that didn't like it either, concerned I'm just 'doing it wrong' ill keep playing about and report back.

I suppose you're using the auto-reboot option since you said the icons are reverting to default after boot?

Will it work if you choose not to reboot automaticly?

d-iivil 2010-11-19 02:45

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HydroCarbon + Awoken icons are working fine on my device :/

d-iivil 2010-11-19 07:29

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Originally Posted by fasza2 (Post 877469)
The save and reboot function didn't/doesn't? work for me either. Well up to the shutdown part it did... Didn't test them since though and can't remember if it worked before.

Can you provide some more detail on how it didn't work? I want to fix all these kinds of issues :)

I have had some issues with dealing the "save as new" thing while applying changes and I'm about to remove that option for good. User's could still save the theme as new by tapping the top menu and choosing "save as new".

Quote:

Originally Posted by fasza2 (Post 877469)
More of a feature request: What do you think about making the app more of a theme manager. I mean adding features like downloading themes and icon sets and maybe fonts via apt-get/wget, preview them before download. Possibility to change everything indipendently without having to mess about with the files...
It would be the best (in my opinion) if themes and such wouldn't even show up in the default app manager, although thats probably not up to you or me.

Whoa.. sounds like a shitload of work :D Don't know if I'm gonna add massive features like these in the near future.

Allthough I have had more time coding at nights since the newborn has kept me awake anyway (2 hours of sleep last night, four hours one before that and so on...).

x-lette 2010-11-19 08:35

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Hi d-iivil, just want to mention that applying changes without reboot doesnt' work at all with me. Theme customizer says it would restart services but then I'm left with a broken GUI. Looks like desktop doesn't get started again. Fortunately the top menu still works and I can select shutdown or reboot.
Don't know whether it's related to special theme customizer settings/changes only or to some other installed apps. Do you know of similar issues?

d-iivil 2010-11-19 08:56

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Originally Posted by x-lette (Post 877744)
Hi d-iivil, just want to mention that applying changes without reboot doesnt' work at all with me. Theme customizer says it would restart services but then I'm left with a broken GUI. Looks like desktop doesn't get started again. Fortunately the top menu still works and I can select shutdown or reboot.
Don't know whether it's related to special theme customizer settings/changes only or to some other installed apps. Do you know of similar issues?

The desktop will start, just wait for minute or so.

x-lette 2010-11-19 09:26

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That long? OK. I just did some test with changing font only (once font size and once font shape) and desktop started correctly. It took about half a minute, but most important, I did see some progress. When doing some other changes (like color, transitions, icon set or even reapplying changes after theme change) I can see no progress at all for a long time. As even the system bar is not being loaded (instead there is a black rectangle on top of the screen) I can't even see whether the cpu is working. I also cannot change to some running app (I have always conky running, so I could see what system is doing if I could bring it to foreground).
Will try again and let it do whatever it does for some minutes. If desktop is coming back after some time it's OK, if not, I will try to figure out what system is doing instead.

d-iivil 2010-11-19 09:30

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Originally Posted by x-lette (Post 877761)
That long? OK. I just did some test with changing font only (once font size and once font shape) and desktop started correctly. It took about half a minute, but most important, I did see some progress. When doing some other changes (like color, transitions, icon set or even reapplying changes after theme change) I can see no progress at all for a long time. As even the system bar is not being loaded (instead there is a black rectangle on top of the screen) I can't even see whether the cpu is working. I also cannot change to some running app (I have always conky running, so I could see what system is doing if I could bring it to foreground).
Will try again and let it do whatever it does for some minutes. If desktop is coming back after some time it's OK, if not, I will try to figure out what system is doing instead.

Technically it doesn't matter if you adjust only font, or one color or what ever, the customizer will run ALL customizations with parameters given even they are same as before.

Desktop takes some time to start, but that's how it is also when you boot up the phone.


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