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Verythrax 2011-08-15 17:21
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Cool things:
UI
Android KERNEL (just kernel)
overall product/acessories design
phone

Bad things:
proprietary connector
Bing
proprietary connector
price
proprietary connector
Android KERNEL (if that means some of actual Android liabilities)
proprietary connector
no back camera
proprietary connector

Wonder since it's just using the kernel, if it will have that fake multitasking, or real multitasking this time.

s4br0s0 2011-08-15 17:23
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Very interesting OS, too expensive the tablet, good price the phone.

Like to know how much the batery life.

With no back camera, how you take pictures?

Grettings.

mikecomputing 2011-08-15 17:40
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
HP touchpad pissing on tabco and also supåport QT and crappy flash too :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjFHrXacRCQ

arora.rohan 2011-08-15 17:47
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by s4br0s0 (Post 1070487)
Very interesting OS, too expensive the tablet, good price the phone.

Like to know how much the batery life.

With no back camera, how you take pictures?

Grettings.
thats the innovative part..they have grown out of pictures..you only crop them.. Who comes up with such stuff...man..!

reinob 2011-08-15 17:57
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1070442)
$399 Unlocked for the Grid 4 16GB phone?

That's not bad at all. In fact, that puts a dent in other, upcoming phones by other companies, unlocked.
Hey, I paid less than EUR300 for a truly innovative tablet/phone/computer/you-name-it, with 32GB, unlocked and running a real Linux.

And it was made 2 fvcking years ago! :-)

Zoxir 2011-08-15 18:03
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Was it my idea or the UI seemed kind of slow???

gerbick 2011-08-15 18:05
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by reinob (Post 1070514)
Hey, I paid less than EUR300 for a truly innovative tablet/phone/computer/you-name-it, with 32GB, unlocked and running a real Linux.

And it was made 2 fvcking years ago!
First things first... 300 Euro is about $433 USD. Patient folks got it for about $250 USD, or about 207 Euro.

That did happen 2 years ago, nothing released on the shelves since.

Doubtful that the Nokia N9 will sell at that price initially. Perhaps in two years.

erendorn 2011-08-15 18:10
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by s4br0s0 (Post 1070487)
With no back camera, how you take pictures?
Oh, you don't need to. Tablets are for viewing media, not creating them.

:)

arora.rohan 2011-08-15 18:20
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
best part was..when he said.. Android is not popular and Bing Search is the best .. haha made my day!

but what i fail to understand is.. Sign to Unlock..i mean like really???! how..and who came up with this idea!

reinob 2011-08-15 18:21
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
@gerbick,

What I mean is that IMHO the N900 is still today as "modern" and innovative as it gets, and still costs way less than other supposedly-better phones..

reinob 2011-08-15 18:26
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoxir (Post 1070519)
Was it my idea or the UI seemed kind of slow???
I got the same impression..

What annoyed me most though was that a lot of the text was too big (hopefully customizable..), and it appeared to be "cut" at the top and the bottom (e.g. the clock), like the space for it was too small (or not dynamically resized, which is bad enough..)

danramos 2011-08-15 18:27
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by momcilo (Post 1070144)
Whatever is on that drawing(it may be a purely concept drawing), sides are very unlike iPad, or Galaxy Tab, they are rounded - it looks as enlarged N9.

BTW: I respect your wits, but please look carefully, before posting alternative acer images.
Firstly, it appears my humor was lost on you. :) But more importantly, can you explain why it doesn't look like an Acer Iconia A100, like I'd said? Tapered sides and all?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1070116)
Oh now you're just sounding like Apple. Will you also try to sue them off the market in Au and Eu?
This is the way of the world, these days. :P You heard WHY Google bought Motorola's mobile division, right? Not necessarily to make their own portable devices--but for their patents, so they can build up a defense. I think it's pretty brilliant, really, but also really stupid that they should have to do that. Patent system is truly broken.

danramos 2011-08-15 18:29
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1070525)
Oh, you don't need to. Tablets are for viewing media, not creating them.

:)
...and phones... are? :P

gerbick 2011-08-15 18:31
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by reinob (Post 1070539)
@gerbick,

What I mean is that IMHO the N900 is still today as "modern" and innovative as it gets, and still costs way less than other supposedly-better phones..
I fear that according to Nokia's own choices in regards to system requirements, the N900 is a dead end and isn't terribly all that "modern". No multiple touch support, you tend to find resistive screens in ultra-cheap Android tablets from no-name manufacturers in China.

There is no Flash 10.x support, now being blamed to hardware (Adobe shares the blame here), the N900 lacks RAM to run MeeGo 1.3 (Nokia chose the hardware) - the N900 MeeGo 1.2 CE runs a little... well, unoptimized.

Yes. It has the ability to run full-blown Debian. I can run Ubuntu on my Xoom - full-blown Ubuntu. I have Flash 10.3 on my Xoom, Atrix. I have full (or close enough) HTML5 support where sites that use heavy AJAX don't choke my phone (Atrix and Dell Venue Pro w/ Mango) upon trying to view those sites.

The N900 is an awesome piece of kit. But it is showing its age. Small-ish screen, horrific battery life, non-gorilla glass screen, 600mhz (out of the box) processor, lacking RAM, dwindling support, dying community, limited 3G spectrum in my market (N9's Penta-band solves my problem), lack of apps despite being the "most open" - thank Mece for Tweed Suit, before it, Twitter was basically forgotten, Mauku was "closed source" and never released to the community.

So yeah. I agree... the N900 is/was pretty nice. But time has passed it by in price, expectation and development. And it has been undercut in price by other feature phones, some smart phones. And the Grid 4 actually is cheaper than it on release... patience will probably mean it'll be even cheaper later down the road.

gerbick 2011-08-15 18:34
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1070525)
Oh, you don't need to. Tablets are for viewing media, not creating them.
I have a Xoom, with a back camera and a pretty full-fledged movie editing program - which isn't half bad.

Tablets should have the ability to create/edit media.

uvatbc 2011-08-15 18:44
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Can we change the thread title to something else now?
I'd go for "Tabco: meh"

Helmuth 2011-08-15 18:45
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Could someone write me please a PM as soon as MeeGo is running at their phone?

The Hardware is not that superior, too less RAM, only 16GB Memory and a missing Keyboard... but perhaps it's with MeeGo worth a second look.

unfuccwittable 2011-08-15 19:01
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1070554)
I have a Xoom, with a back camera and a pretty full-fledged movie editing program - which isn't half bad.

Tablets should have the ability to create/edit media.
he was making a joke, yo.

danramos 2011-08-15 19:04
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by unfuccwittable (Post 1070582)
he was making a joke, yo.
I didn't hear laugh-track, YO-YO.

gerbick 2011-08-15 19:08
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by unfuccwittable (Post 1070582)
he was making a joke, yo.
No back camera is the same as the HP TouchPad... which just got a 99 cent camera app.

A joke? I'm just dealing with facts ma'am.

Daneel 2011-08-15 19:09
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
He was right about one thing though, there is NO innovation on the tablet and smartphone market atm, just small hardware increments.

There is nothing that i want to spend my money on.

hotnikkelz 2011-08-15 19:35
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
it looks so laggy that UI, but the release date is in like a month, i hope they tighten it up

momcilo 2011-08-15 19:46
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoxir (Post 1070519)
Was it my idea or the UI seemed kind of slow???
Quote:
Originally Posted by hotnikkelz (Post 1070613)
it looks so laggy that UI, but the release date is in like a month, i hope they tighten it up
The UI is anything but laggy.
Proof: look for the shots were camera is directly focused at the tablet, evertything OK there.

The problem is with the refresh rate of adapter/projector.

BTW: I don't think this topic should be closed, it should be renamed and moved to proper place.

arora.rohan 2011-08-15 19:57
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
So we all can say that the inevitable has happened. How these guys targeted apple and android so bluntly with such a device is out of my comprehension..

olighak 2011-08-15 20:32
Re: FusionGarage - Grid 10 (Was: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco)
 
The name of the thread has been changed :)

momcilo 2011-08-15 20:47
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arora.rohan (Post 1070629)
So we all can say that the inevitable has happened. How these guys targeted apple and android so bluntly with such a device is out of my comprehension..
We haven't really seen the device. Their CEO is obviously too focused on software. In order to take on Apple, you have to provide advertise the design of product. He barely let's us see it during the presentation.

arora.rohan 2011-08-15 20:53
Re: FusionGarage - Grid 10 (Was: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco)
 
The device wont be good if the software is not groundbreaking(? too much right?) .. this software has no innovation..they continued to say tweet after tweet..."We are reinventing the wheel" Heck ELSE did a better job at wheel thing.. :-/ ! People want Simpler OS..and thats where iOS kills everything...it just works!.. And Whats the point of making it compatible of running Android apps..If i wanted to run android Apps..why would i buy this!! Should have gone with a Linux kernel..and tried to put Alien dalvik :-/
those are some really bad decision by FG... they should have gone with Meego or something else...Android kernel...shudders..

momcilo 2011-08-15 21:03
Re: FusionGarage - Grid 10 (Was: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arora.rohan (Post 1070679)
The device wont be good if the software is not groundbreaking(? too much right?) .. this software has no innovation..they continued to say tweet after tweet..."We are reinventing the wheel" Heck ELSE did a better job at wheel thing.. :-/ ! People want Simpler OS..and thats where iOS kills everything...it just works!.. And Whats the point of making it compatible of running Android apps..If i wanted to run android Apps..why would i buy this!! Should have gone with a Linux kernel..and tried to put Alien dalvik :-/
those are some really bad decision by FG... they should have gone with Meego or something else...Android kernel...shudders..
Last time they provided linux (web browser), now they went android in order to provide applications. Not too bad decision in my opinion.

Check out the "popular" prices of accessories, so Applish.

Maj3stic 2011-08-15 21:04
Re: FusionGarage - Grid 10 (Was: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco)
 
The phone intrigues me it has similarities to Wp7 and other things like you guys have mentioned but nonetheless it is still different from whats on the market. I like different hence my purchases of the n810 and n900. I think I will purchase it while I'm waiting for my N9 since i have some money to blow :P.

unfuccwittable 2011-08-15 21:07
Re: FusionGarage - Grid 10 (Was: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1070587)
I didn't hear laugh-track, YO-YO.
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1070593)
No back camera is the same as the HP TouchPad... which just got a 99 cent camera app.

A joke? I'm just dealing with facts ma'am.
*SIGH* 10char

arora.rohan 2011-08-15 21:10
Re: FusionGarage - Grid 10 (Was: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco)
 
yea they went android forgetting that there are tons of android tablets out there...they needed a new platform... Meego with Alien Dalvik would have been great for them..

Texrat 2011-08-15 21:15
Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daneel (Post 1070595)
He was right about one thing though, there is NO innovation on the tablet and smartphone market atm, just small hardware increments.

There is nothing that i want to spend my money on.
For me that includes the Grid 10. ;)

But I do like some of the Asus products...

danramos 2011-08-15 21:23
Re: FusionGarage - Grid 10 (Was: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maj3stic (Post 1070691)
The phone intrigues me it has similarities to Wp7 and other things like you guys have mentioned but nonetheless it is still different from whats on the market. I like different hence my purchases of the n810 and n900. I think I will purchase it while I'm waiting for my N9 since i have some money to blow :P.
This is hilarious...
http://www.fusiongarage.com/grid-4/features
There Is Just Nothing Like It.

Nothing else is like it. Innovative. Striking. Unique. The Grid4 stands alone. A new design. Features and functionality not found elsewhere. Powered by the amazing GridOS. You will never think of phones in the same way again. See for yourself.
Is it just me... or doesn't it looks VERY much like the original Motorola Droid from almost two years ago? Even the 5mp camera... and although the screen is slightly larger, it's a lower resolution than the Droid at 854x480. The lack of a slide-out keyboard, faster processor and RAM are about the only real differences, outside the OS... Oh right--same OS, too. :) So basically, it's a lower-res, keyboardless but faster Motorola Droid?

Compare:
Motorola Droid A855: http://developer.motorola.com/products/droid/
Fusion Garage Grid 4: http://www.fusiongarage.com/grid-4/tech-specs

How is the Grid 4 "NOTHING LIKE IT?"

Edit: Although, I didn't see that before--a front-facing camera. That's kinda cool--but what apps will work with it? For that matter... what Android version is their OS compatible with? Android 2.2? 2.3? 3.x? 4?

unfuccwittable 2011-08-15 22:15
Re: FusionGarage - Grid 10 (Was: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1070705)

Edit: Although, I didn't see that before--a front-facing camera. That's kinda cool--but what apps will work with it? For that matter... what Android version is their OS compatible with? Android 2.2? 2.3? 3.x? 4?
One thing's for sure, they better start working to get Ice Cream to both of these devices if they wanna stay alive for more than 10 minutes this time.

H3llb0und 2011-08-16 00:39
Re: FusionGarage - Grid 10 (Was: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco)
 
Grid 10 vs Asus Transformer

Grid 10 - $499 - 16GB
CPU - Nvidia Tegra II 1.2Ghz Dual Core

RAM - 512MB

Display Type
10.1" TFT LCD (1366 x 768)
4 points Capacitive Touch Panel


Transformer - $399 - 16GB
CPU - Nvidia Tegra II 1Ghz Dual Core - My Transformer is running @ 1.4GHz rock stable

RAM - 1GB

Display Type
10.1" IPS LED Backlight WXGA (1280x800)
10 finger multi-touch support
Scratch resistant glass - Gorilla Glass


As far as I'm concerned, the Transformer beats it on EVERYTHING including price.

The only thing the Grid 10 has that the Transformer doesn't is 3G. I don't need it.

Battery life is not mentioned, but I don't believe it comes close to the 10h+ I am getting on the Tablet alone.

Just a long list of FAIL!

keflex 2011-08-16 00:53
Re: FusionGarage - Grid 10 (Was: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco)
 
saw a few gridos screenshots, it looks really unattractive. what the hell is that font? nokia sans is looking pretty good right now.

danramos 2011-08-16 01:50
Re: FusionGarage - Grid 10 (Was: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by keflex (Post 1070837)
saw a few gridos screenshots, it looks really unattractive. what the hell is that font? nokia sans is looking pretty good right now.
I guess they figure that cutting off the bottoms of the characters somehow makes them look "futuristic"? I find it obnoxious to look at and immediately made me think something wrong with the font rendering until I realized they were doing it intentionally.

cesman 2011-08-16 02:09
Re: FusionGarage - Grid 10 (Was: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco)
 
Since this has nothing to do w/ MeeGo or Harmattan, can this thread please be moved?

gerbick 2011-08-16 02:15
Re: FusionGarage - Grid 10 (Was: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cesman (Post 1070866)
Since this has nothing to do w/ MeeGo or Harmattan, can this thread please be moved?
Already requested. Name change happened; so be patient... like waiting for the release of Harmattan.

ysss 2011-08-16 02:33
Re: FusionGarage - Grid 10 (Was: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco)
 
Quote:
There Is Just Nothing Like It.

Nothing else is like it. Innovative. Striking. Unique. The Grid4 stands alone. A new design. Features and functionality not found elsewhere. Powered by the amazing GridOS. You will never think of phones in the same way again. See for yourself.
Quote:
Nothing Will Ever Look The Same Again.

Grid4 is just one big display. 4 inches of apps, high-resolution photos, movies, web pages, and more
Quote:
Amazingly Sexy. Amazingly Sleek.

It will be hard to look away from a Grid4. It’s amazingly sexy. It’s amazingly sleek. There are no buttons. There are no curves. Its just 4 inches of all screen. The straight edges scream simplicity. It’s a triumph of honest design. The all-aluminum back is a nice touch. It’s shaped around the function with no artificial design. You will turn heads with a Grid4 in your hands
Sounds like bad apple.


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