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Yes, some people are having problems with the range they can get using their N900's IR port. Sometimes this is just with specific brands of device (Sony in particular appears to be a problem), sometimes it is with devices in general. I have not yet been able to pin down the exact cause of the range problems, and I don't yet have a solution for them. :(

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It's a good thing I have 2 N900's. :D I tested it out on my older one and seems to work a lot better on my sony wega. I can confirm that it can sometimes be the device too I guess :)

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I have also tested on two devices and I get a good 1 metre or so extra on my newer one.

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actually i wanted to say the tuner could be the problem.
remote on n900 is working well on a samsung lcd 2-3 years old, from about 2.5 - 3 metters, so i could say it is not the phone.
i'm looking at the tv-tuner receiver calbe ( 1-1.5 m), older technology, and probably a part of the signal is lost there.
my question is if someone is able to use remote programs on another pc tv-tuner.

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

When you say Thomson, would this be the with the problem with sky+ boxes or is it sky+ specific?

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How cool would be to control your sky+ box from pierogi and remotely from the newly fixed showtime? I've just discovered Smileys.
:)

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Sky is using the Philips RC6 protocol. At least, everything I'm reading says that they are using it, but there must be something subtly odd about how they are using it. I believe that they may not be using the "toggle" feature of the protocol, but it is also possible that they are using it in a way I don't currently understand... The fact that some commands can sometimes work is odd. (And I have one report from a Tata Sky user that the protocol is working fine for them...)

So I'm still trying to put together more information on exactly what is going on with these receivers. It'll just take some time -- I'm sure other universal remotes are working just fine with Sky, I just need to figure out what they are doing. :)

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Another update is now making its way up to extras-devel. In this one, I have finally put together some code to support the XMP protocol. This lets me define keysets for Dreambox, Telenet, and one Thomson device. I'm not 100% certain that I have the protocol right yet, so don't be surprised if these don't work perfectly (or at all!).

The Telenet data I was able to come up with was very sketchy, so I don't know if those buttons ended up mapped correctly. I'll have to work on them a little more.

I found more than a half-dozen Dreambox config files, and no two files matched each other. :) It looks like Dream Multimedia likes to redefine the codes for at least a few of their remote buttons every time they come out with a new receiver. If you do find that one of the keysets works for a particular Dreambox, please make a note of it here or on the Device Compatibility List. Thanks!

Along with Dreambox, Telenet, and Thomson, keysets for a Magnum TV and a Genius speaker system were added.

I'm currently looking in to selecting items in the various list widgets using the keyboard, but it's looking a bit more complicated than I had assumed... :)

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Great, going to update and test Magnum and Telenet, will report back.

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btw, the panasonic air conditioning controls don't work at all. all the buttons don't seem to do anything....

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That is quite possible, there just aren't a lot of config files available for air conditioners. I've only found one for Panasonic so far. I'm not sure where to find more A/C codes...

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Very nice app, thank you Copernicus;)

An idea: would it be possible to make software to "record" keyset from an existing remote controller?

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I think this has been mentioned earlier in the thread.
The N900 camera isn't good enough to record the pulses from the remote.
It my be possible to use a IR Receiver and H-E-N

They can be recorded with a IR Receiver on a Desktop like LIRC do.

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Plz how does someone changes to AV channels with this remote. There is no button labelled SOURCE or AV.

Thx for reply in advance.

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Try Input?

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Yes, Pierogi is definitely behind the curve right now in supporting source controls in detail. There is the "Input" button on the Utility panel, which is useful if your target device has a single button that can cycle through all the available input sources. There is also an "Input Panel" you can activate, that has a handful more source control choices.

But yeah, I do want to set up a more comprehensive input control system in Pierogi. The big problem I have right now is that different manufacturers have made very different choices in how to manage source control, and I haven't been able to come up with a good "universal" mechanism to support them all. :)

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Just an update: neither the Magnum or the Telenet keysets are working for me... I'll need to write down exact model numbers and dig a bit...

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Problems with Telenet aren't a surprise, given that it's my first attempt at the protocol being used and that I'm really not certain I even had the right codes. :) But I thought sure I had the Magnum right... I'll take another look. Thanks!

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Update to 1.0.0.

Directv standart model L12 (that say the manual) kinda works (with Directv sat keyset 1).

I mean, you have to press until change and doesn't change quikly or always, so works but not like should be.

It doesn't matter if your'e close to the device.

I'll try it on HD model (not sure if i can do it today) and report later.

Greetings.

Edit: Tried on HD model an works much better.

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Ah, I bet I know the problem, too. DirecTV seems to be using a standard set of codes across all their devices, but they have two different inter-code pause timings and three different carrier frequencies. I don't have all six permutations covered yet; so the L12 is probably using a compatible carrier frequency (since it does sometimes recognize the codes), but doesn't have the right timing. I've probably got the right choices down for the HD model.

Good to hear that some DirecTV receivers are working, though! I'll try to put in coverage for the other varieties in the next update. It looks like Pierogi might finally have some ability to deal with satellite receivers after all... :)

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By the way, version 1.0.0 of Pierogi has just made its way into the Extras repository! :)

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I'm using latest extras-devel version, yet, I can't find any thomson keysets. Thomson *do* appear on the list, but without any device to choose from. It's also the case for few other manufacturers from latest update.

t's only me, or something went wrong?

In any case, thanks for this great program - even if reading about it makes me hungry every time ;)

/Estel

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Ah, I would guess you are using the "Select Keyset by Device" list. That list uses the information I've currently got on devices that are known to work with Pierogi (or, at least, the ones I believe to work correctly). You can see this list in its entirety on the Compatibility List wiki page. Unfortunately, this list is relatively small for the moment.

For now, the better way to choose keysets is via the "Select Keyset by Name" list, which gives you access to all the keysets in Pierogi. :)

Eventually, I hope to make the Select by Device list just as useful as the Select by Name list, but that's probably going to take a long, long time. :)

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As many users I do also have problems with SONY device and pierogi :).

SONY Compact Disc Player CDP-XE370
(thank you for so fast keyset addition)

So range here is not a problem. It is working even from 3-4m .
The problem I do have is that many keys only work when I tap very fast a button (very very often I had to tap it very fast like 3-6 times to get reaction).
When I do push constatnly a button or tap it with normal typical speed the there are like 30-50% chance that there will be no reaction.
With vloume buttons 100% ( only very fast tapping works).

I'm not sure how good it worked in qtirreco (few updates ago it stoped working for me) since its interface was crap and you had to tap fast buttons to not move them by mistake :) but I think that it was a bit better.

I did check it from very close range and far range.

Power, mute buttons dont work.
Rewind buttons dont work when taped constantly only do rewind few sec forward, back when single taped
Missing fade button.

Tested on 1.1.2, all SONY CD keysets

update: I did test it a bit more and rewrote a bit my observation.
update2: I am using also my n900 as remote for Philips, Lg, Panasonic TVs, JVC DVD and it works nice so it shouldnt be my device problem

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Some info for Philips TV keysets

Same keysets worked for me with series 6000 TV and some CRT models from year 1989 (They are working 23 years without any brakedown). :D
I did found also that my parrents CRT LG TV works on Philips keysets.

When I will be able to check models I will post them.

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Request.

Mediasat Satelite Decoder (many times rebranded, is it Philips?).

Remote Control Philips rc8244

Had no succes with current Philips SAT keysets but this piece of crap is hard to use even with oryginal remote controls.
And my Philips series 6000 TV was detecting (diode blinking, no other action) signals from qtirreco that I was using to control this crap decoder.

Thank you.

Update
After some search I think it is PIONEER 1430 or 1530 but I am 100% sure that Philips rc8244 is used with it ( I am confused).

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There are probably multiple Magnum and Telenet devices, and I may have passed on codes for a model I don't own :confused:

On the Magnum TV, it says:
TV 7090 VT
RS 20449

On the Telenet digicorder, it says:
Model Q81-TLN

I'll hunt a bit myself when time permits

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Ah, this sounds like I've got the protocol's repeat frames wrong. (By tapping very fast you are pretty much doing the repeat function yourself...) But that really should be causing the same trouble on all Sonys... Hmm...

Drat, I just am not finding anything unique about that CD player. I have a Sony DVD player here, and holding a button down is working correctly for it. Sony goes to great lengths to ensure that all of its remote controls work in a consistent fashion.

There must be something about Sony devices that I am missing... :)

That's actually my fault. The current Pierogi UI is still mostly oriented towards video devices, so I haven't put buttons like "fade" into the UI yet. :) Still need to work on that...

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Yes, the "LG TV Keyset 2" is using the Philips RC5 protocol, so I wouldn't find that to be a surprise. :)

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we need more devs like you bro. please make more apps for maemo5. keep up the good work :)

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Yes, it is very likely that the remote is using a Philips protocol (probably RC5), which is why the TV recognizes the signal. The big question is where to find the codes; in fact, if they follow the standard Philips numbering system (not everybody does), all you'd really need is the device code for the receiver... I'm not seeing much support for Mediasat in my usual sources, but I'll do some googling. :)

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Well, the config file I had was for a 5520 VT. A "7090 VT" doesn't sound all that different. :) Oh well, shoot.

I'm not finding any more "Magnum" config files. I'm not sure where to look next...

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Thanks! You know, though, I've never really considered myself a "developer" for the N900. :) Pierogi is pretty much just a toy I wrote for my own use, I'm still kinda surprised how popular it seems to be...

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btw, i got myself an external USB IR reader and hooked it up to my laptop. i can use it to read some codes from ir remote controls in lirc format. that would be a way to create more codes but only if you own the remote in the first place.

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

well the thing is, you captured what the users need/want. and your being welcome and responsive is keeping it up to its phase!

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Just to let everyone know I have updated the Requests section of the Compatibility Wiki ...

http://wiki.maemo.org/Pierogi_Device..._List#Requests

This is to make it easier to find/request keysets on the wiki page and to easily locate the uncompleted keysets.
Please continue to add your requests to the "New Request" section.

Also if you find a device that works correctly with a Keyset, feel free to add it to the Compatible Devices section.

http://wiki.maemo.org/Pierogi_Device...atible_Devices

Copernicus has also updated the links on the first post of this thread.

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After looking around a bit, I've just realized that I've already got an LIRC config file for the RC8244. It is an RC5 protocol remote, and I've got its codes entered into Philips Sat Keyset 3. I double-checked the values, and I think I entered everything correctly. I'm not sure why it isn't able to drive the receiver... :(

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Another update is on its way up to extras-devel. I'm still kind of in the middle of a set of infrastructure changes I'd like to make to Pierogi, but I've reached a fairly convenient spot to pause and take stock. The only fairly obvious change this time is the addition of a new Preferences menu option; so far, the only preference available is the ability to swap the volume and channel buttons on the main panel.

I'm trying to make sure that Pierogi remembers all your settings between sessions (such as your panel choices), so hopefully you don't need to keep hitting the same options every time you run the program. I'm not 100% sure I've covered everything yet, I'm still working on it. :)

In keyset news, I've finally provided keysets for all six versions of the DirecTV protocol; with luck, Pierogi should now be able to work with all the current DirecTV receivers. Also, I've made a first pass at keysets for BenQ, Octagon, and Xcruiser.

As always, with anything you retrieve from extra-devel, be warned that this is potentially bug-ridden code! Be cautious in how you use it...

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I will be able to check it one more time next week and will report it asap.

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:) Volume on the left!! Thank you. Saving panels as well!
All working great.

Although should...
...not say...
?