Re: Jolla C
 

i think the same but i can wait for few more days. finally i will buy my first crapdr*id phone if i m right.

Re: Jolla C
 

A few days won't be enough. I believe the Jolla C exists to test drive the Intex device and to have the community iron out bugs.

Re: Jolla C
 

may be you r right but it should not take too much time for them to launch the device.

Re: Jolla C
 

Even if OT, I'm curious: Does anyone know about mobile devices production?
For the sake of argument let's assume Jolla releases the final Aqua Fish firmware today.
At least for the Jolla C we have seen factory pics, so how probable is it, that the Aqua Fish phones (hardware) are already assembled?
How long would it take to flash them, pack them up and deliver them to the distributors?
If the hardware still has to be assembled I guess estimates are difficult, but still: Would that add extra days, weeks, month?

Thank you!

Re: Jolla C
 

my only crime is i dont like andr*oid and i am a linux fan so the only option for me is to stay positive. i have been waiting for a year so i can wait for a month or 2. nokia n900 will keep me alive.

Re: Jolla C
 

Just got an email in which there is new info about Jolla C shipment.

This last part with the protective cover left me puzzled.

Re: Jolla C
 

Jolla has posted four videos(so far) from International Sailfish Community Event to their youtube channel. :)
Links:

Jolla co-founder Sami Pienimäki's keynote: "What's up Sailfish OS”

Sailfish OS workshop: Hardware Adaptation - Carsten Munk

Sailfish OS workshop: Design - Martin Schüle

Sailfish OS workshop: User Interface - Joona Petrell

Edit: There is also blog post
International Sailfish Community Event Recap

Re: Jolla C
 

It is normal screen protector. At least I have that on my Jolla C, it protects phone from scratches! :)

Re: Jolla C
 

It would make sense if they wrote it is a screen protector.
I prefer my phones without protectors, but in this case I will keep it on.

Re: Jolla C
 

Else you will loose warranty ... oh wait ;)

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I give you a tip: Leave the protector on the screen if it does not bother you.

I peeled mine off the screen in the moment I received it on the community event - and there is already a scratch on my screen! I don't even know where it comes from.

It seems the glass is soft as butter.

Re: Jolla C
 

I am afraid the fact that they decided to install screen protectors on all Jolla C by default means the screen is not very scratch resistant by itself. I think I did not see any "GorillaGlass" or similar brand in the specification sheet.

Can some of the happy early owners of Jolla C tell us more about this? Should we be worried that the screen has to be protected? Do we know the screen protector model and brand?

[Edit] OK, seems I missed a page already answering to my concerns. Bad news.

Re: Jolla C
 

Sounds like it's a plastic display cover and not glass, understandable considering the price.

On the plus side you can claim the phone is shatterproof as Motorola are marketing their plastic display as.

Re: Jolla C
 

Let's hope spare parts for Intex Aqua Fish will available on ebay and it's possible to replace the display on the Jolla C with a glass screen.

Re: Jolla C
 

Intex display will be the same

Re: Jolla C
 

guys i have a question, since sailfish is based on mer so does the development of sailfish provides any contribution to mer in terms of coding

Re: Jolla C
 

Jolla is probably the main contributor to mer these days, or at least it has been for a while when they were at full steam.

But yes, they contribute back to mer and there are other things that are open source already, such as the stock browser. You could even implement a lot of backend stuff, such as OTR or several email features.

How open source SFOS is an interesting topic that has been discussed at length in multiple threads in this forum and other places, so I suggest you search and read about it before we go too much off topic.

Re: Jolla C
 

thanx ggabriel its gud to know about the sailfish contribution to mer. i have so many questions regarding jolla c (sailfish) but i guess i will get my answers when i buy intex aqua fish.

Re: Jolla C
 

Well I'll have to see it to believe it.

Various tech sites have sated that it have a 5" gorilla glass screen. Also in many pictures online it looks like a glass display do to the screen reflection.

Re: Jolla C
 

You can easily follow what's going on in Mer using this page:

https://git.merproject.org/groups/mer-core/activity

Just note that you need to refresh it manually once in a while, it doesn't have auto-refresh. :)

Re: Jolla C
 

I wonder how well this would cover the 'useful' screen area?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-Genuin...gAAOSw5dNWs0lS

EDIT : Decided to sacrifice 3GBP (currently about 0.01Euro) to find out. Will report back!

Re: Jolla C
 

I guess you'll be better off with this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/atFoliX-Gla...+displayschutz

Search for "Jolla C Displayschutz" on your local Amazon.

Re: Jolla C
 

I am also into Linux. Still using my N9 and have a dislike for anything from Google. So I am trying to remain positive and waiting to see what comes out from Intex, Turing, and others.

Re: Jolla C
 

You know that Android is using Linux and there are 100% opensource distros based on android.
While Jolla is more similar to GNU/Linux we know on desktop. It's still utilze a lot of parts of android you are running from, software from android. at least J1 was less flashable than most androids. And code is not 100% open.
I understand why one can like Jolla, but saying that you like it just coz it's not android makes no sense.

Re: Jolla C
 

For those who used sailfish, is there an easy way to disable internet access for specific android apps or deny them some privileges? Firewall or something.

PS I know that alien dalvik there is 4.4, not 6.0, where android itself has priv. switches.

Re: Jolla C
 

In what way?

Since their inception Google has been tracking everything and its included in Android.

Re: Jolla C
 

And parts of this android and most SW on sailfish is android, so what is your point?
Moreover you do not know what is the closed part of Jolla and what would be used in "partner" parts. So how is it different? Just coz you have personal feeling and sympathy is not enuf — it's business after all :)

Re: Jolla C
 

its gud to see others waiting too, stay positive man.

Re: Jolla C
 

I'm pretty sure this is only true for devices on which Sailfish needs libhybris to work.

Re: Jolla C
 

Apart that most SW used by users on Jolla are android apps, jolla itself has android parts and blobs and uses libhybris — https://together.jolla.com/question/...ndroid-kernel/

Re: Jolla C
 

will Jolla extend Jolla C or that's all? another Jolla C wave would be good. any information about that?

Re: Jolla C
 

So where did you find that info?
Personally I haven't had Alien Dalvik installed since early 2014, when I was first investigating and testing the system. I also know for fact, that I'm far from the only one, using Sailfish raw, so to say.

Re: Jolla C
 

I think what nthn meant was that currently Jolla needs libhybris to interface the hardware because the hardware did only come with Android drivers. But this is not necessarily the universal law: someone may produce a device using hardware with native drivers available, and in such a case libhybris will not be necessary.

Me too! Minus the investigation. I have never allowed AD touch my Jolla.

Re: Jolla C
 

I'm all about Alien Dalvik and the apps that I don't have on Sailfish.

Re: Jolla C
 

A lot of maybe, when they'll release 1 phone without - you can talk to me, meanwhile there are 4 devices and all run libhybrid.
And yes there few people who do not use android SW, but even on Jolla videos sailors themselves use Android apps.
You can give app most apps and services and use desktop's browser for a lot of tasks that have already android apps with comfortable UI :)
But that would leave you with 5 apps and a lot of terminal tools , same tools you can have on android.

Re: Jolla C
 

See the reply above :)
And I liked it that you told me that I'm wrong regarding libhybris, but as I proved I'm not — you switched to SW argument without mentioning libhybrid part of your statement.

Re: Jolla C
 

I didn't say one word about you being wrong regarding libhybris. I just questioned your assertion that "most SW used by users on Jolla are android apps".

Re: Jolla C
 

Yes, I have an issue with that statement too. It claims not that most Sailfish users use Android apps, which is something I would not dispute in a hurry, but that Android apps make the majority of what they use. I see no evidence supporting that claim.

Re: Jolla C
 

There are few users, who mentioned that they do not use Dalvik. And their voice is loud.
But there are a lot of topics and questions on both maemo and TJC about android apps.
Whatsapp and AFAIK facebook are available only as android app.
And as i have no Jolla on me and web page of harbour does not have feature to show apps - I can't tell you how many downloads android apps and dalvik itself have, but as I went to aptoide - the Jolla one (and it's not only the place android apps are downloaded) and there are 900k downloads. I think this number will tell by itself, or you think 10 people just redownloaded the same app?
Do not forget that there are more than dozen phones out there :)
In most reviews and post people describe how to use android apps.
Jolla itself promote android apps.
Basically we both do not know the answer - but common sense would tell that while dozen people can use Jolla phone as ssh terminal and compile things, majority - doesn't do it. Majority uses end-user apps.

Re: Jolla C
 

what do people think about the camera on the jolla C?

one of the things that keeps me using my Huwei P8 with its skinned android 5 rather than my nexus5 running the much better cyanogen 13.1 is the camera. the huwei camera is simply leagues better.

i'd love to get jolla C, but not if the camera is worse than the nexus5...