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zimon 2012-05-17 15:08
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Pre iPhone there was blackberry and Nokia communicators, which I wouldn't call dumbphones.

Dared 2012-05-17 15:12
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They didn't have to be lost though. Imagine an N10 with dual core processor, swipe UI, 41 megapixel camera with hdmi out, full app support (which was very possible given the hype the n9 had) etc etc. THAT would be a phone to beat

pycage 2012-05-17 15:19
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
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Originally Posted by Dared (Post 1207850)
They didn't have to be lost though. Imagine an N10 with dual core processor, swipe UI, 41 megapixel camera with hdmi out, full app support (which was very possible given the hype the n9 had) etc etc. THAT would be a phone to beat
But still, almost nobody would buy it because it was too expensive, and because it had that tainted name NOKIA printed on it.

zimon 2012-05-17 15:30
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The way Samsung is doing it is what Nokia should have done.

Samsung released state of the art hardware; Samsung Galaxy S3. They they practically let users to choose what OS they want to run it with: Android, WP8 or Tizen:
http://www.planetinsane.com/tizen-de...xy-s3/2631787/

But no. Nokia went and signed exclusive restricting contract with Microsoft and basically is Microsoft's own dirty lumia now. A test bed for Microsoft to try one last time.

kevloral 2012-05-17 16:09
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Originally Posted by specc (Post 1207835)
Pre iPhone: Everyone used dumb phones.
Oh, really? Have you ever heard about a phone called Nokia N95? Yes, the one that was released before the original iPhone was and that was much, much smarter than it in every definition of the word.

gerbick 2012-05-17 16:18
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That's the problem. The N95 was a great phone for its time. But the follow-up, the N97 started the downward spiral of bad responses to iOS, Android, et al.

Also, the N95 had anemic memory - out of memory errors was quite frequent. Great phone, plagued with issues that should have been easy to work out in later iterations, but Nokia just didn't capitalize in ways that we'd now consider via hindsight as proactive and effective.

specc 2012-05-17 18:11
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Originally Posted by kevloral (Post 1207882)
Oh, really? Have you ever heard about a phone called Nokia N95? Yes, the one that was released before the original iPhone was and that was much, much smarter than it in every definition of the word.
As I said, smartphones was used by geeks and enthusiasts. The N95 was probably an exception along with the E series. But back in 05-07 the smartphone market share was 5-10%. Today it is 60-80% in Europe at least.

There were lots of smartphones around. HTC, Palm, Motorola, SE even Samsung had a few.

The iPhone changed all that. Then came Android and shook up everything. That was the point. The branch of smartphones that the N95 belonged to suddenly was irrelevant. It's not about being smarter, it's about focusing on what the general public want. That is apps and facebook, twitter etc, large screens with snappy UX.

The last classical smartphone will be the 808 PureView. Even though it lacks a HW keyboard, it got everything else (FM rx/tx, USB2go, HDMI), even a classical OS with real multitasking, and a kick *** camera.

The 808 and a Google branded tablet and I will be happy for a looong time (at least a year :D )

zimon 2012-05-18 06:43
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...84H00X20120518
Quote:
Samsung gets 9 million preorders for new Galaxy phone: report
enough said

danramos 2012-05-18 06:57
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
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Originally Posted by kevloral (Post 1207882)
Oh, really? Have you ever heard about a phone called Nokia N95? Yes, the one that was released before the original iPhone was and that was much, much smarter than it in every definition of the word.
Wait a minute... wasn't the Handspring Treo (later, the Palm Treo) and Windows Mobile around for a LONG, LONG, long time (about 10 years ago?) before the iPhone? Didn't they run installable applications and access the Internet over carrier connections and even browsed with HTML browsers? (I seem to remember using the Blaze web browser on my Palm devices).

Caaaareful now. :)

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1207887)
That's the problem. The N95 was a great phone for its time. But the follow-up, the N97 started the downward spiral of bad responses to iOS, Android, et al.

Also, the N95 had anemic memory - out of memory errors was quite frequent. Great phone, plagued with issues that should have been easy to work out in later iterations, but Nokia just didn't capitalize in ways that we'd now consider via hindsight as proactive and effective.
Yup! It was the typical customer service and quality we've come to expect after a device was made and put out there on the market. EVERY.. SINGLE... TIME... they do this same dance. Put it out there.. and QUICKLY move to the next thing without fixing problems in the last device and abandon those customers as rudely as possible (read: WONTFIX). heh

don_falcone 2012-05-18 07:31
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Oh, Palm. File them under "further running". I'd never got around liking the Treo 650. I'd never got around to being comfortable with Graffitti too. Maybe an US specific thing.
Btw the N7650 could install before the Treo. ;)


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