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I ordered this one too, but it will take time to get it, though I bet i get it before all tablets would be sent :)

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Screen size measures intelligence?


You're calling other people stupid?

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Not my theory, someone on this forum

Rubio was kinda right, size of hands directly correlates to how many inches one can handle

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Guys im a fan of big screen Phones and bought them used them and loved since day one. Still do. But hands has nothing to do with it, nor intelligence. It's one thing that makes them boom.

Do you think humans have bigger hands today than 5 years ago? The only thing that changed is the use cases where bigger screen simply beat a smaller screen at more and more cases.

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Oh yeah dave ...
humans got huuuuuuuuugggeee hands ever since the manual labour and exercise they get from using tablets...
we have been evolving at such a phenomenal speed we can now actually "watch" our bodies evolve ...
Bwahahahaaahaa...

More like the reverse if anything...
tiny hands ...smell like cabbage...like a carnie's ...

If any "big-hand" syndrome is at work concerning tablets...and tablet size...
I'd take the cue from this...as being more responsible....

https://vine.co/v/iqAPqDAOl5g

and on another note...

MSCION for prez...!
vote for less irresponsibility in gov't ...today!
If I could cross-border vote I would man...
Any tmo-er here...
has more ethic in their fingernail scrapings and toe lint
than the moral entirety of the current candidates combined...
on both sides of the the election too...

MSCION's got my vote.

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All ******** aside, mscion is a good candidate indeed. But what would he do about this tablet scam if elected? I think the only way to solve it is to point Donald T at the general direction of Jolla office and then take cover.

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Incorrect. Intelligence has everything to do with. Not the users' intelligence though. The manufacturers' marketing departments'. Big devices are easier and cheaper to make than same spec smaller devices. The producers have made an excellent job marketing the cheaper stuff as "premium" and made Joe Public fall for it. Well done.

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Joe public that is 2 feet smaller than joe publicv2 might have his limit at 4-4.5 inches screen, call it stupidity as much as you like, but if joe publicv2 is able to handle 5.5 inches it's just biology, no need to envy and call others stupid, we're not running for a president here, extra inch helps

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Thickness: remove the USB/LAN contacts is probadly easy task.

Save power yes RPi is eating current :(

But there is probadly some tricks:

* get rid of the LAN chip or turn it off if possible
* USB HUB onboard, power it off atleast when not used.
* Wifi same as above

I guess there is plenty to do in the OS to save power.

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Even more Incorrect. Yes they get more space but Samsung and other top not tech companies can easily make 4 inch highend devices IF They want to. ITs just that they won't sell as much since it's actually nicer to watch movies, browse the web or work with mails, or read books on a bigger screen.

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Until Apple invent 4" phones later this year, then Samsung and everyone else will make them. I can't wait for Apple to invent phones with hardware keyboards.

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So true, everyone will be amazed at how much luxurious neo-traditional feedback feels, typing on glass will seem absurd in no time

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Haha...you guys have totally lost it. :D The big screen devices is not a marketing stunt. Its pure quality until next step in screen evolution...foldable screens?

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Think I'm not one of the hip, geeky and techy guys any more :-(
A smartphone comes handy on the road for doing all the things you mentioned but I still see it as a phone in first place - I'm using it between office and home and ... for the quick mail answer, quick news update, sms, having a look on a document that can't wait to be reviewed till I'm on a computer or tablet and often for navigation and as a camera but very rare for YouTube or a movie ... It's cool to have a little device in the pocket that can do nearly everthing a computer can do on the road - but I don't (I really don't ) want to carry a tablet sized brick in my pocket all the time ... But I'm old, so maybe I just don't get the point ...

For movies I prefer a real big screen (still going to cinemas though ;-) ) for reading an ebook reader and for real work on documents a notebook with a hardware keyboard (a tablet might do but not a 7inch)

From the people around me 40% like 5" plus devices, 40% want nothing bigger then 4.5, 10% don't care as long they get a hardware keyboard and 10% are still happy with their K800i or even a 3210 ;-)

Oh and btw: why this discussion in the never-ending-tablet-thread ;-)

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That is a valid question. Who derailed the thread?

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Can't make myslf free from the blame :p

Totally. Locusf and others are doing an amazing job!
It was fun to experiment but not practical for actual use.

And now the rerail attempt.
My wife demanded from me to supply her a tablet within the next month. She will visit some congress style events and does not want to take her laptop.
I actually talked her into throwing another 80$ over to yoybuy and order from a 1888yuan seller that others have tried succesfully when the price was still lower.
Lets see if he has stock, Yoybuy staff will propably get back to work in the next 2 hours and push my order through.
Fingers crossed.

Edit: The one linked above pulled the "out of stock" card...
Trying with Han-yi Telepohne again how asked for 80$ more last time.

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Just in case anyone has forgotten what a real crowdfunding scam looks like https://motherboard.vice.com/read/cr...ole-is-a-mess?

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I just bought an old HP Pre3 and I must admit that I am quite impressed. Compared to the N900, it lacks an extendable memory and a stylus (and a terminal ATM) but on the other Hand, Web OS is quite nice.

As far as I am aware, Palm/HP Pre phones are the only devices that combine a good, one hand usable touch OS (and a screen size supporting one-handed use) with a HW Keyboard in a meaningful way.

In fact, my wife, my mother-in-law and others now want a Pre phone because they are so much easier to use than their Android phone. I tried to talk them away, because otherwise I had to provide all the support that is no more available from HP.

There IS a market for these devices and it is really the question who will be the first to serve this market.

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Back on-Topic: Didn't Jolla mention a surprise for those backers not served?

What about a phone with HW Keyboard, Stylus and 4" screen, running SFOS?

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What about a Unicorn! or a Helicarrier! or Timetravel!

Continually pining over an n900 style device is starting to get a bit sad guys

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If you have a HW keyboard and a stylus, you do not need SFOS!

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So... you're really asking if anybody has ported Sailfish to the N900, right?

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You may be right, but the fun in the thread is back!

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No, it's fun!

And yes, a Helicarrier could be fun as well, maybe with a Unicorn on board.

BTW, I just fell in love with an old HP Pre (has no stylus, but its form-factor suits one-handed touch use very well)

@pichlo: for such a package SFOS would make sense (as opposed to the N900)

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No, I would not. As pichlo poined out, N900 is a different beast. It is not a phone, it is a small computer.

But: something like easy-debian in he Jolla would be nice. On the other hand, without a stylus it would be hard to handle.

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Personally, I think that the gestures in Sailfish, and by an extension Harmattan, made a stylus quite useless. There's quite a few use cases where a stylus would make things awkward.

I think that in 2016, considering the N900 a "mobile computer" is quite apt; but I still would say it's a rather lacking mobile computer for some rather practical things yet quite fantastic for stuff that makes this forum happy.

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"Awkward" is not the word I would have chosen. "Unnecessary", perhaps?

That's how I see SFOS: a crutch to compensate for the lack of proper input methods, such as a HW keyboard and a precision pointing device, like a mouse or a stylus. I must say it does a damn good job compensating but if you have those, you do not need SFOS. You may as well use a real OS.

I, OTOH, have found both Jolla and SFOS severely lacking in pretty much every aspect except a more powerful CPU. Moving from N900 to Jolla feels like moving from an old Mercedes to a new Ford Fiesta. It may be new, but it does not have air-conditioning, power steering, ABS, a dashboard clock, electric windows, a CD player...

But yeah, this is OT in this thread. Sorry.

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Changing my tone up a bit, especially when addressing the N900. I did state useless earlier in the sentence.

Agree here. But I think that it's a continuation of Harmattan in that degree; remove the hardware keyboard and whatnot and you better have good input otherwise. Since both are sitting on top of basically full-stack Linux, switching to a presentational layer that accepts keyboard/mouse/stylus input should be a no-brainer if some enterprising individual, group or project decided to do so.

Agree fully.

Since we're in different parts of the world, I'll try avoid esoteric brand names and use generic terms instead.

I've always likened the N900 to an old car. It is that old diesel Mercedes indeed. Reliable, you know it should work/will work but you have to be patient on some things, you hear a noise or a have a problem it's a quick diagnosis and perhaps fix. And the things it's missing - well, you "don't need them anyway"... until you do.

Sailfish is that sporty, quick to accelerate kit car like the Ariel Atom. Very quick, nice transportation, fun to drive, does somethings in a rather odd fashion, has no storage (trunk or boot), has half a windshield but proposes to get you to point A to point B rather quickly albeit quite quirkily.

I think we actually agree. See above.

I think it's par for the course in this thread.

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Guys, did you recevied an invite today?

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actually two: one for free sex with hot girls in my neighbourhood and one for a fantastic 5% discount on every +£150 order on something I don't need ;-)
Or did you mean from Jolla :cool:

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I think I meant jolla. But any kind of invite will count...

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You too? I thought those were exclusive for me!

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Allons-y!*

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muahahah...:D:D:D
made my day, (sorry for off topic).

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How is the refund coming along?

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Swimmingly.

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What refund?

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You know the one that takes Jolla from a bunch of trickters to a bunch of hipsters.

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hello,
I'm new to this thread and a new owner of the jolla tablet.
I was one of the December backers so no chance of getting one from
Jolla. I bought one from taobao some weeks ago for $263 and hope
for some refund from Jolla (like most of us)

Got it yesterday, installed all the updates and I haven't read the manual
and hopefully never have to. Very intuitive. I'm a bit disappointed by the
browser but so was I on the N9. I'll get used to it.

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Welcome to this thread and since you have the tablet, you're definitely welcome to share your experiences in the Jolla Tablet Experiences Thread.

You're right... the browser leaves a lot to be desired. WebCat is good, if you get the Google Play Store and services installed, you could go with Chrome or if you're comfortable with installing stuff and don't want to install Google Play Store, there's the unsupported QuickSilver which is based on Chromium but now a couple of versions behind - still works great but you'll have to reinstall the Qt5-wayland file per OS update since it patches the Qt display.