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sjgadsby 2008-09-12 23:37

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
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Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 223429)
Most people use a headset of some form (bluetooth, wired, whatever)...

Really? I see headsets in use so rarely, I find this surprising. Is there published data on this?

GeneralAntilles 2008-09-12 23:51

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
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Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 223443)
  • A WWAN Radio built in is bad because of X -- Moot: the NIT already has a WWAN family member, the N810 WiMAX Edition.

WiMAX really isn't comparable to 3G, especially not when you throw voice in the mix.

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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 223466)
Really? I see headsets in use so rarely, I find this surprising. Is there published data on this?

As with most of the proponents of a cellular radio in this thread, it seems to be just a lot of made up statistics and hot air.

allnameswereout 2008-09-13 00:37

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
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Originally Posted by tso (Post 223462)
the thing about wimax is that many see it as a extended range wifi, and therefor not tied to the evil that its the mobile operators.

No, it has nothing to do with WiFi. WiFi is an unlicensed spectrum for short range. WiMAX is a licensed spectrum for medium range.

Also, not all WiMAX access providers are (old) mobile operators earning money from people who pay by the minute to speak to one another. That is one of the reasons it is exciting.

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sad thing is that most wimax implementations so far are using licensed frequencies.
Yeah, and knives are used to cut something.

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so no chance for a urban area to pop up a couple of wimax antennas gotten of the shelf and hooked into some peer or transit provider, municipal style...
That is what unlicensed spectrums are for, but only short range can be unlicensed.

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thing is that for me any kind of 3G radio in the tablet would bring the price up without adding much in the way of utility.
For you, indeed, but I'd say a device meant to be used on the Internet (and relying on this for functionality) should easily provide access to the Internet.

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i already own a phone that i can use for those times that i cant access a wifi connection. and that happens so rarely, that paying for two subscriptions/plans would be overkill. instead i can use the one phone connection i already have with any device that has bluetooth or a usb port (if i remember to bring the cable).
Thats great for you, but normal people need to care about 2 devices, and normal people aren't able to always get a legal WiFi connection.

With another device there is another point of failure, you need to care about 2 batteries, you need to care about 2 stable devices, you need to carry 2 devices, you need to carry cables for 2 devices, you need to start up 2 devices. Oh wait... you want to use navigation? Go grab yet another device.

I want one small, stable device which is able to be used for navigation, audio, video, Internet, PIM. Integrated and synced. And yes, it might cost something more than 500 USD indeed.

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so a 3G radio would basically be expensive dead weight.
For you, yes. You already own a phone, and are apparently happy with it.

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oh, and using the tablet for voip, not this guy. i carry a phone, i use a phone, simple as that. i would much rather see xmpp get a single voice and video standard in place then sign up for skype, gizmo or some other voip provider.
Earlier you expressed unhappyness about mobile operators, now you argue against SIP. SIP is great if you have 24/7 connectivity.

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on the other hand, i would not mind seeing a CF slot ;)
IIRC CF doesn't allow enough I/O.

EDIT: Wrong, standard & specs have considerably evolved.

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oh, and did people see this recent development on the neo freerunner:
http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS6565189083.html

i wonder if nokia could provide for something similar on the next tablet ;)
ISPs love DVB-H for it decreases their bandwidth. Phones with such capability are heavily subsidized by telcos here.

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dont know about others, but my favorite toy growing up was lego ;)
..and your current one is your mobile phone? ;)

allnameswereout 2008-09-13 00:42

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 223470)
As with most of the proponents of a cellular radio in this thread, it seems to be just a lot of made up statistics and hot air.

-1 lack of audi alteram partem
-1 flamebait
-1 guilty by association/generalisation
-1 leadership bonus

Total score: -4.

Thesandlord 2008-09-13 01:09

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
Look, all the N900 needs is the following:

-5 Ghz 16-Core ARM/x86 hybrid processor
-AGPS, with the cool free satellite internet that only hackers from Die Hard know about
-Hologram Projector
-Voice Recognition
-Solar/Kinetic/Wind power (no recharge, infinite battery)
-Taser to shock the iPhone users
-Enough graphics power to emulate a few PS3s
-super high res multitouch, folding screen, that can stretch to any size and resolution, and provides tactile feedback and raised surfaces (as well as holograms)
-Virtual surround sound
-Everything else I cant make up (use your imagination)

Oh, and under 200 bucks please!

tso 2008-09-13 01:27

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 223478)
I want one small, stable device which is able to be used for navigation, audio, video, Internet, PIM. Integrated and synced. And yes, it might cost something more than 500 USD indeed.

if so, why did you get a tablet?

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..and your current one is your mobile phone? ;)
no, data networks/connections. my current phone is a fairly unimpressive feature phone from sonyericsson...

El Amir 2008-09-13 01:54

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
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Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 223483)
Look, all the N900 needs is the following:

-5 Ghz 16-Core ARM/x86 hybrid processor
-AGPS, with the cool free satellite internet that only hackers from Die Hard know about
-Hologram Projector
-Voice Recognition
-Solar/Kinetic/Wind power (no recharge, infinite battery)
-Taser to shock the iPhone users
-Enough graphics power to emulate a few PS3s
-super high res multitouch, folding screen, that can stretch to any size and resolution, and provides tactile feedback and raised surfaces (as well as holograms)
-Virtual surround sound
-Everything else I cant make up (use your imagination)

Oh, and under 200 bucks please!

All of those features were Soooo 2007 :D

johnkzin 2008-09-13 04:20

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 223478)
but thats me. some others may want a one device solution. to them i would say to grab a HTC or iphone.

The iPhone is far from being an all-in-one solution. Unless you narrow your definition of "all" to being a few specific things.

HTC has a couple of devices that come close to "all in one", but they're REALLY _HUGE_. Like the "advantage" and "shift". Not even close to pocketable.

tso 2008-09-13 04:32

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
the advantage is not that much bigger then the N810...

http://www.sizeasy.com/page/size_com...-Playing-Cards

johnkzin 2008-09-13 06:13

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 
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Originally Posted by tso (Post 223517)
the advantage is not that much bigger then the N810...

http://www.sizeasy.com/page/size_com...-Playing-Cards


Huh. I never looked at its actual dimensions. I had just seen pictures of people working with it and carrying it/etc. And it just looked like it was 2-3x bigger than an iPod. Like maybe closer to the size of the Samsung Q1 (non-ultra).

Learn something new every day.


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