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zymo 2011-05-20 10:53

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
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Originally Posted by rash.m2k (Post 1010894)
I don't understand why something is a 'developer' device only, it doesn't make sense.

For a developer device we don't care how it looks! What we want is to be able to debug/view code, registers etc... thats more important, than the looks.

There is no point in putting effort into making it look nice if it's not going to be available to the public! The only difference between a dev device and consumer device would be the type of firmware loaded on - to enable them to recover the device quickly.

this developer device (qwerty) was meant to be the consumer one back 2010! the hardware was ready, but the software wasn’t. so it get delayed. Nokia put money into the development of this device and now it got outdated specs and if they have released it as a consumer device, then everybody would be disappointed about the hardware and saying it isn’t competitive. So Nokia decided to make this near perfect device a dev-phone only, which is not going to be sold like e7, n8, e6....so devs have something to „play“ with and can start to (re)write some apps for Harmattan. The second harmattan device (KB-Less) which should be released way after the N9 (qwerty) is now the one and only real consumer harmattan device.

misterc 2011-05-20 10:55

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rash.m2k (Post 1010894)
I don't understand why something is a 'developer' device only, it doesn't make sense.

For a developer device we don't care how it looks! What we want is to be able to debug/view code, registers etc... thats more important, than the looks.

There is no point in putting effort into making it look nice if it's not going to be available to the public! The only difference between a dev device and consumer device would be the type of firmware loaded on - to enable them to recover the device quickly.

if a device could allow you to reset the firmware in a matter of minutes (like it is the case for the N900), would it be a problem for you that it looks nice and that ppl (without the slightest dev ambition) might buy it BECAUSE it is nice (and, maybe, as

Quote:

Originally Posted by larux (Post 1010863)
I don't mind if developer device is that keyboardless. I'm pro consumer who WANT decent qwerty with good OS.

It would be gigantic failure to give devices w keyboard to devs only.

points out, keyboard might be considered useful by (some) consumers too, no? the others can get themselves a pink N8 for all i care;
or simply NOT use the keyboard :eek:

MY POINT: THERE IS ONLY GOING TO BE ONE REPEAT ONE DEV (as Elop, nearly throwing up, i bet, had to admit; well, for him, even that one was too much, i'm sure >¦-)
the RM-680 certified by FCC
will be presented end of next week in S.F.
if MeeGo doesn't pick up after that, respectively unless THAT one device is a commercial success w/ sales in the millions unit, it will be the end of Maemo (as far as NOKIA is concerned)

Jedibeeftrix 2011-05-20 10:56

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zymo (Post 1010913)
this developer device (qwerty) was meant to be the consumer one back 2010! the hardware was ready, but the software wasn’t. so it get delayed. Nokia put money into the development of this device and now it got outdated specs and if they have released it as a consumer device, then everybody would be disappointed about the hardware and saying it isn’t competitive. So Nokia decided to make this near perfect device a dev-phone only phone, which is not going to be sold like e7, n8, e6....so devs have something to „play“ with and can start to (re)write some apps for Harmattan. The second harmattan device (KB-Less) which should be released way after the N9 (qwerty) is now the one and only real consumer harmattan device.

i would be quite content if this turns out to be what has happened, depending on how "way after" the consumer devices ends up arriving.

mece 2011-05-20 10:57

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1010901)
Or E7. ;)
"filler text"

Led the wrong way around

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikirk (Post 1010903)
I think it's an N8 myself. :p :D

Led too close to the top and the wrong shape.

It's also not an C7 (wrong shape) X7 (Wrong shape, led too close to top)

This however:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_l07vVnBw3l8/TG...20%289%29.jpeg
Has the correct shape, the led is the correct shape and it's in the right place.

OVK 2011-05-20 10:58

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
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Originally Posted by mece (Post 1010919)
Led the wrong way around



Led too close to the top and the wrong shape.

It's also not an C7 (wrong shape) X7 (Wrong shape, led too close to top)


Has the correct shape, the led is the correct shape and it's in the right place.

This is like watching CSI.

jalyst 2011-05-20 10:59

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
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Originally Posted by zymo (Post 1010913)
the hardware was ready, but the software wasn’t. .

that's always been the massive assumption in popular media, I've never seen any real proof to verify it.
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/show...l=1#post942400
I reckon it's been ready for quite some time now...
Meego-core, of course not, Harmatten_Meego you betcha it's possible.

EvilSpeaks 2011-05-20 11:01

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rash.m2k (Post 1010894)
I don't understand why something is a 'developer' device only, it doesn't make sense.

For a developer device we don't care how it looks! What we want is to be able to debug/view code, registers etc... thats more important, than the looks.

There is no point in putting effort into making it look nice if it's not going to be available to the public! The only difference between a dev device and consumer device would be the type of firmware loaded on - to enable them to recover the device quickly.

I'm not going to pretend i know or don't know but maybe like someone else mentioned before, the keyboard device is a developer device because it was complete in 2010 before Nokia decided that maybe the SOC was old and outdated and designed a newer more up-to-date device but rather then throw away 500-1000 already developed devices, give them away as developer devices and then release the more powerful up-to-date device??

Again just a guess and if this is the case and that leaked video is new, why show a KB device???

Personally I want a KB device and have been waiting for one for a long time, if the original galaxy S came out in the UK with a KB (like it did abroad) I would have had one, but it didn't so I’m still waiting for a >= 4" KB device (regardless or operating system) and who provides one first will get my money, though I have to admit, this new Nokia device is probably the only one that is tempting me to get it regardless of whether it has KB or not.....

EDIT: TO SLOWWWWW

misterc 2011-05-20 11:03

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zymo (Post 1010913)
this developer device (qwerty) was meant to be the consumer one back 2010! the hardware was ready, but the software wasn’t. so it get delayed. Nokia put money into the development of this device and now it got outdated specs and if they have released it as a consumer device, then everybody would be disappointed about the hardware and saying it isn’t competitive. So Nokia decided to make this near perfect device a dev-phone only, which is not going to be sold like e7, n8, e6....so devs have something to „play“ with and can start to (re)write some apps for Harmattan. The second harmattan device (KB-Less) which should be released way after the N9 (qwerty) is now the one and only real consumer harmattan device.

what planet are you living on?
really think NOKIA would spend (waste?) millions for developers to play around? the N900 (obviously) did and still is doing the job. no need of another device for that.

zymo 2011-05-20 11:04

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix (Post 1010917)
i would be quite content if this turns out to be what has happened, depending on how "way after" the consumer devices ends up arriving.

way after the initial release date: q4 2010

NvyUs 2011-05-20 11:04

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1010923)
that's always been the massive assumption in popular media, I've never seen any real proof to verify it.
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/show...l=1#post942400
I reckon it's been ready for quite some time now...
Meego-core, of course not, Harmatten_Meego you betcha it's possible.

That DSmobile guy sounds interesting in that thread claims he has KBless N9 and being saying a while its the release device.
He even described UI a while back which he kinda seems to of got correct
now you see all the evidence is adding up from different sources too.


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