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erendorn 2012-05-30 13:25
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Originally Posted by gosh (Post 1214909)
Do you mean that linux is closed source? MeeGo Harmattan is based on linux. And you can't compare operating systems with applications
Linux is open source, but then, it's a kernel, and not an operating system.
The complete UI of Harmattan is closed source, not just its apps, and so are many of it's drivers (graphic drivers for sure, and probably battery and cellular drivers). Now without that the N9 is a beautifull (open source) brick.

Mer+Meego is open source (almost, their are still redistributable closed binary drivers), mer+cordia or whatever else are too. Harmattan is not. A simple test would be just trying to port it to some other device...

gosh 2012-05-30 13:57
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Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1214950)
Linux is open source, but then, it's a kernel, and not an operating system.
The complete UI of Harmattan is closed source, not just its apps, and so are many of it's drivers (graphic drivers for sure, and probably battery and cellular drivers).
I did check the UI Harmattan code last year, don't remember the link but it was possible to download the source code then

Lumiaman 2012-05-30 14:38
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NOKIA cant do competitive software these days. They had maemo, that was truly a step in the right direction. And they couldnt optimize it for the masses. It simply shows that they were just outdone by better software guys. Period. Not to say they havent tried. They have. The six or 5 step plan was a good one, but exposed their inability to optimize software in a competitive environment. If it takes you 6 steps to produce Harmattan, buggy, laggy, and missing many of the features of previous steps, you are clearly not good enough to compete with the big boys. Hence, the move to WP. NOKIA tried, tried hard, but it couldnt do it. Its simple as that boys and girls.

SamGan 2012-05-30 15:09
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1214975)
NOKIA cant do competitive software these days. They had maemo, that was truly a step in the right direction. And they couldnt optimize it for the masses. It simply shows that they were just outdone by better software guys. Period. Not to say they havent tried. They have. The six or 5 step plan was a good one, but exposed their inability to optimize software in a competitive environment. If it takes you 6 steps to produce Harmattan, buggy, laggy, and missing many of the features of previous steps, you are clearly not good enough to compete with the big boys. Hence, the move to WP. NOKIA tried, tried hard, but it couldnt do it. Its simple as that boys and girls.
Whatever bugs Harmattan may have it still leaves WP7.5 behind in the dust.

Lumiaman 2012-05-30 15:26
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Originally Posted by SamGan (Post 1214990)
Whatever bugs Harmattan may have it still leaves WP7.5 behind in the dust.
Not really. For the masses, WP7.5 is smoother and better experience than N9. N9 is more capable but not as attractive for the masses.

Dared 2012-05-30 15:38
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1214994)
Not really. For the masses, WP7.5 is smoother and better experience than N9. N9 is more capable but not as attractive for the masses.
Funny you should say that. Every single one of my friends who have used my N9 have said they want one. None of them have even mentioned windows phone.

It is obvious you think differently. That's fine. But many of us disagree with your thoughts. For instance, there are no lags for me and others, great experience for me and others.

Remember, an opinion is an opinion. It is neither right not wrong. So please respect what we think :)

Lumiaman 2012-05-30 15:44
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Originally Posted by Dared (Post 1215000)
Funny you should say that. Every single one of my friends who have used my N9 have said they want one. None of them have even mentioned windows phone.

It is obvious you think differently. That's fine. But many of us disagree with you + no lags for me and others, great experience for me and others.

Remember, an opinion is an opinion. It is neither right not wrong. So please respect what we think :)
I respect your opinions. I myself have three N9s, and hope the new firmware will smooth it out. The way it is, however, it doesnt compete with iOS or Android experience, nor WP experience. Just to give you an example: I took N9 and Lumia 800 on trip using NOKIA drive. NOKIA drive worked flawlessly on 800, but took forever to find GPS on N9, and lost signal too many times to render it obsolete for my use. The problem: N9 software is not optimized. And that is the problem with Nokia software, it is not optimized out of the box and can not compete with smoothness and operational agility of other OSs. Your friends may love the flash of swipe, notification screen, and integrated IM and SMS, but I doubt they would love it after months of use.

gosh 2012-05-30 16:17
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1214994)
Not really. For the masses, WP7.5 is smoother and better experience than N9. N9 is more capable but not as attractive for the masses.
You need a very smooth phone if icons are that big. Normal phones don't need that type of scrolling.

Browsing the web needs to be smooth, other types of applications (except games) isn't that advanced.

ibrakalifa 2012-05-30 16:45
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he hates it, but hold 3 of them, amazing, sensational, :D

thedead1440 2012-05-30 16:49
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who here believes Lumiaman when he says he has 3 N9s?
He trolls all the time...never uses a single N9 tweak/mod...talks nonsense about the GPS which works flawlessly regardless of firmware or mods.


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