maemo.org - Talk - Jolla Tablet Refunds (latest developments)

Hey, let's take money from one yet to be delivered and/or refunded project and place that money onto another yet to be delivered project.

Really. That's the kind of thinking that keeps some folks perpetually angry and yet somehow never admitting their own fault in the process. Want to fund things, accept the risks. Want the benefits of something that will enrich your life without the risks, find something that's already been released or funded.

Or... keep making decisions that put your money at risk. Your choice.

billranton

2016-04-10 19:53

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet

My son has just grasped the concept of 'too good to be true'. He's eight. :p

Dave999

2016-04-11 05:37

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This is the week of weeks among weeks. Refund or scam. This follow up scam was not money but info like emails and contribution info.

pichlo

2016-04-11 06:26

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Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1503227)

My son has just grasped the concept of 'too good to be true'. He's eight. :p

Congratulations! My daughter is also 8 and she already understands the difference between 'need' and 'want' - something my wife still strugglers with.

jesper

2016-04-11 08:28

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Just got a text message from DHL telling me I had a shipment en route from Hong Kong...

//j

seiichiro0185

2016-04-11 08:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jesper (Post 1503258)

Just got a text message from DHL telling me I had a shipment en route from Hong Kong...

//j

When did you finish your tax payment in the shop?

jesper

2016-04-11 09:04

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Originally Posted by seiichiro0185 (Post 1503259)

When did you finish your tax payment in the shop?

Thursday or Friday last week.

//j

seiichiro0185

2016-04-11 09:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jesper (Post 1503262)

Thursday or Friday last week.

//j

Nice, since I also finished the order on Thursday chances are good my tablet will also be on its way soon (TM) :)

tommo

2016-04-11 09:59

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Anything happened with anyone's refund? Are they 'processing' yet ?

billranton

2016-04-11 10:25

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1503255)

Congratulations! My daughter is also 8 and she already understands the difference between 'need' and 'want' - something my wife still strugglers with.

No she doesn't. It's a trap!

Copernicus

2016-04-11 10:42

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Originally Posted by tommo (Post 1503265)

Anything happened with anyone's refund? Are they 'processing' yet ?

Hopefully, they'll exhaust their supply of tablets before sending out any refunds. Things'll get worse if someone decides they don't want the tablet any more, and they try to go to the next guy on the list and say "Please give us back your refund! We now have a tablet for you!"

juiceme

2016-04-11 11:10

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Originally Posted by Fellfrosch (Post 1503169)

I will get the same... :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by seiichiro0185 (Post 1503190)

I will also get the 64GB Version, according to the jolla-shop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesper (Post 1503258)

Just got a text message from DHL telling me I had a shipment en route from Hong Kong...

Maybe we should found the "Jolla Tablet Second Coming / Latecomers" club :D

pichlo

2016-04-11 11:17

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Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1503270)

No she doesn't. It's a trap!

Did you mean, 'scam'? ;)

ZogG	2016-04-11 13:15

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Originally Posted by Copernicus (Post 1503274)

It may happen anyway as they would have to give refund in case person would want refund, so there is no point to postpone it and it would slow down both refund and sending tablets.
Btw it was only 500 tablets, which is not that much (1-3 people teams delivered more projects on crowdfunding projects)

Copernicus

2016-04-11 13:23

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Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 1503282)

It may happen anyway as they would have to give refund in case person would want refund

Well, drat! On the form I got, the only options given to me were (a) refund or (b) gift to Jolla. I had assumed that option (c) wait for a tablet to become available was therefore implied. I'd have chosen that one if I had the opportunity...

Dave999

2016-04-11 13:27

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Will be interesting to see when we get the second half of the money. Shouldn't be too far off and much less pain since Jolla got the process. I think November would be suitable .

tommo

2016-04-11 13:54

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1503286)

Will be interesting to see when we get the second half of the money. Shouldn't be too far off and much less pain since Jolla got the process. I think November would be suitable .

Don't worry dave, all will be revealed in the blog update tomorrow, either that or it will be a load of nonsense that we already know and the overuse of the word 'soon'. :D

Dave999

2016-04-11 15:19

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Originally Posted by tommo (Post 1503290)

Don't worry dave, all will be revealed in the blog update tomorrow, either that or it will be a load of nonsense that we already know and the overuse of the word 'soon'. :D

Yeah. It's possible that the first refund will be so delayed that the second one is the first. Strange world dealing with Jolla :D

mikecomputing

2016-04-11 18:07

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new blog entry at http://blog.jolla.com

gerbick

2016-04-11 18:14

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1503307)

new blog entry at http://blog.jolla.com

Great. Just great.

att	2016-04-11 18:17

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1503307)

new blog entry at http://blog.jolla.com

You are late. April 1st was 10 days ago.

gerbick

2016-04-11 18:18

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Originally Posted by att (Post 1503310)

You are late. April 1st was 10 days ago.

Once a fool, always a fool...

Dave999

2016-04-11 18:28

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You are a tool so easy to fool

Best Regards
Jolla

Thats is how I want to read next blog post. Jolla to come clean...

mosen

2016-04-11 20:04

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Looks like we are all waiting for more of this to happen :rolleyes:

mscion

2016-04-11 20:26

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Originally Posted by Copernicus (Post 1503284)

The form should have had following options.

1)Refund only
2)Donation only
3)If tablet available I'll take it
4)if tablet not available, pick either donation or refund.

That's it.

pycage

2016-04-12 10:50

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1503307)

new blog entry at http://blog.jolla.com

The first time I'm thankful for YouTube's geoblocking of content. :)

seiichiro0185

2016-04-12 11:30

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This time for real :)

Jolla Blog Update

zenecho

2016-04-12 12:17

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so its all happening soon then <g>

tommo

2016-04-12 12:40

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I'm kinda glad they didn't have to send out 10,000 tablets, we would still be here in 2026.
And surely it would be easier to process the refunds as they come in, not wait until you have a massssive pile of them, but anyway....
Keep up the good work jolla.

pichlo

2016-04-12 12:46

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I worked for now a large a software company that was small at the time (about 70 employees). Before we switched to download only, we used to send updates by CD. That was about 35 thousand CDs packed and shipped every month. It took a group of 5 people about 3 days.

mosen

2016-04-12 13:03

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1503375)

It took a group of 5 people about 3 days.

Jollas "soon" turned into "delayed to undefined time due to general circumstances caused by our financial thumbscrews, please be happy that we are at least still trying and have found a newspeak meaning of soon to keep you from exploding. Your welcome.".

anidel

2016-04-12 13:26

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Looks like I was in the list of the new 400 invites.
Also got instructions for refund earlier though...will see what happens.

mscion

2016-04-12 13:55

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Originally Posted by anidel (Post 1503377)

Looks like I was in the list of the new 400 invites.
Also got instructions for refund earlier though...will see what happens.

Hi. How do you know you are the list of "new" 400 invites. Also, did you earlier fill out the form for a refund? Your answer may help clarify how the process works! Thanks!

Dave999

2016-04-12 15:01

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Originally Posted by tommo (Post 1503374)

You thing we be fully refunded before that?

I think it's safe to say will be here 2026 holding the flag.

However, Jolla won't .

anidel

2016-04-12 15:05

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Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1503380)

Hi. How do you know you are the list of "new" 400 invites. Also, did you earlier fill out the form for a refund? Your answer may help clarify how the process works! Thanks!

Because I got the e-mail from them :)
And yes I did get the refund instructions and followed them weeks ago.

I assume they'll stop the refund?
I'm not the only one in this situation, I assume almost all of these 400 people went thru the refund process only to get the invite to complete their order few days ago.

anidel

2016-04-12 15:09

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1503382)

You thing we be fully refunded before that?

I think it's safe to say will be here 2026 holding the flag.

However, Jolla won't .

I think they clearly said they're gonna wait for people to complete their refund applications + see how many people actually complete the Tablet order?

Like now they've sent 400 new invites AFTER we got the refund instructions...I think they are gonna wait until almost all the tablets have been assigned and then they'll be pretty sure all the rest will have to be refunded.

Probably they've started down the line refunds too? At least I think I read some refunds started already and I can only assume are for people much down the line and very very unlikely to get a chance to order the tablet.

mscion

2016-04-12 15:14

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Originally Posted by anidel (Post 1503383)

Ok. As I understand it. You got the refund instructions and requested the refund. Then recently got the the evite that was sent out to the 400 or so additional folks. Correct?

anidel

2016-04-12 15:21

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Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1503385)

Ok. As I understand it. You got the refund instructions and requested the refund. Then recently got the the evite that was sent out to the 400 or so additional folks. Correct?

That's correct!

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