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nilchak

2009-09-10 01:38

Re: Nokia: networks may reject N900

Firstly kudos to Nokia for sticking to their guns (and for the consumers).
But without carriers carrying the device and subsidized (in the US), it will be so many less people who will buy this device..

Lets face it, in the US, most people don't see the advantages of unsubsidized and unlocked uncrippled phones at all. They'd rather buy a subsidized crippled phone with higher monthly rates.

But how come Palm and Google are able to get carriers to carry the G1 / G2 and Pre which I believe are also unbranded and uncustomized and not locked down by the operators ?

matthewcc

2009-09-10 01:55

Re: Nokia: networks may reject N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 324607)

Lets face it, in the US, most people don't see the advantages of unsubsidized and unlocked uncrippled phones at all. They'd rather buy a subsidized crippled phone with higher monthly rates.

I agree with your comment, the only comment is even if you bring your own phone you do not get a discounted plan... that I have seen at least...

klinglerware

2009-09-10 12:11

Re: Nokia: networks may reject N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 324607)

But how come Palm and Google are able to get carriers to carry the G1 / G2 and Pre which I believe are also unbranded and uncustomized and not locked down by the operators ?

Don't know about Palm, but T-mobile USA does exert a lot of influence on what can go in the Google phones subsidized by T-mobile. It is T-mobile that ultimately pushes the firmware updates for their subsidized phones. They have also exerted pressure on Google to restrict what is available in the app store. For example, you can't buy tethering apps in the Google/Android App store if you are a North American customer, though these types of apps are readily available in the stores for customers in other regions.

ysss	2009-09-10 17:16

Re: Nokia: networks may reject N900

Re: T-Mo USA

Yeah, as an example, the Android on their G1 comes with GTalk and Yahoo Messenger clients that makes use of SMS system to send the messages and doesn't work over IP at all.

aironeous

2009-09-10 17:28

Re: Nokia: networks may reject N900

If we are still able to bluetooth link up with our Nokia at&t phones on the n900 at&t is doubling their 3g.
http://hotcellularphone.com/att/att-...r-cities-year/

Remember those pictures of Nokias swiveling phone patents I put up here?
Whaddaya know. The 7705 twist
http://hotcellularphone.com/verizon/...ist-sept-13-2/

tso	2009-09-10 20:14

Re: Nokia: networks may reject N900

damn, i would really love to see that swivel phone with maemo running!

and thats why i hate those exclusivity deals, all the interesting designs goes to the carriers, while the rest is looking at generic screens, folders, sliders and candybars...

i want a transformers phone!

Laughing Man

2009-09-10 21:03

Re: Nokia: networks may reject N900

Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 324570)

I get the impression that the analysts are confused. Nokia probably doesn't care if the carriers install their own apps on the N900. They won't be able to cripple the OS, however, nor will they be able to force people to pay high prices for ringtones and such.

Sure they wouldn't be able to force people to pay for high prices for ringtones and such. But they could always make it so it's easier for people to buy a ringtone and automatically change it over than it is to splice and make your own. Or download one, and configure the option to point to that ringtone. Thus for anybody who's not familar with the device they would just buy it rather than hack around. Carriers wouldn't have any luck crippling an OS or locking people on this community anyway. Heck just like at the G1 or iPhone. If it's locked down, then someone will be guaranteed to take a crack at breaking it open. It's more the fact that how easy it is for people who aren't familar to do so.

But oh wait that would actually require people to compete huh?

Jack6428

2009-09-10 21:04

Re: Nokia: networks may reject N900

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Originally Posted by tso (Post 325024)

hm, and which side would you choose?
Autobots or Decepticons ? :D