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Hogwash 2009-10-16 18:07

Re: N900 device program for maemo.org developers and contributors
 
There are separate logins for the maemo.org site and the talk.maemo.org site....which is annoying.

I would like to have one login for both - is that possible?

andrewfblack 2009-10-16 18:10

Re: N900 device program for maemo.org developers and contributors
 
for everyone who thanks talk is the only way to get karma.

http://maemo.org/profile/view/timeless/

Timeless is 12th highest karma and not a 1 talk post or thanks.

andrewfblack 2009-10-16 18:12

Re: N900 device program for maemo.org developers and contributors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MountainX (Post 348755)
How the heck do I do that?! The list doesn't even sort by username! So I have to read through every page?

Easiest way is got to maemo.org, login and click your name in top right corner it takes you to your profile with karma on it.

Texrat 2009-10-16 18:25

Re: N900 device program for maemo.org developers and contributors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 348751)
Makes my point exactly. Posting has too much affect on karma. It weights the table towards people who frequent and POST a lot in the forums. (Yes I know their is a brainstorm in progress to try and fix it for the future -- but that doesn't take care of the present)

Even with my mind-boggling number of posts, I agree.

I created a Brainstorm proposal to discuss awarding Karma based on Thanks (a more useful metric IMO) but so far NO engagement on it... :(

http://maemo.org/community/brainstor...hanks_in_talk/

Quim is also looking for developer love:

http://maemo.org/community/brainstor...heir_software/

Attilla77 is also proposing Brainstorm activity as Karma source:

http://maemo.org/community/brainstor..._karma_source/

Nathan 2009-10-16 18:32

Re: N900 device program for maemo.org developers and contributors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewfblack (Post 348774)
for everyone who thanks talk is the only way to get karma.

http://maemo.org/profile/view/timeless/

Timeless is 12th highest karma and not a 1 talk post or thanks.

Yes, you can get karma from other places. If I'm not saying you couldn't it just appears a ton of karma is from talk or blog posts. Not a lot if giving for just plain developers. I'm not saying those aren't important -- in fact they are. I'm just trying to make sure that the developers who make the software that we all use aren't forgotten because they are not always "social" creatures. ;-D

Nathan

Nathan 2009-10-16 18:36

Re: N900 device program for maemo.org developers and contributors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 348790)
Even with my mind-boggling number of posts, I agree.

I created a Brainstorm proposal to discuss awarding Karma based on Thanks (a more useful metric IMO) but so far NO engagement on it... :(

http://maemo.org/community/brainstor...hanks_in_talk/

Quim is also looking for developer love:

http://maemo.org/community/brainstor...heir_software/

Attilla77 is also proposing Brainstorm activity as Karma source:

http://maemo.org/community/brainstor..._karma_source/


I think this is a GREAT direction to be going. Whoever started the brainstorm idea was a genius (Quim was that you?) -- I love that we can start getting these minor issues resolved in a constructive manor. But the only point I keep trying to make is that for this time through; since we don't have everything in place (and probably won't) -- we need to make sure we do NOT alienate any of our developers, especially developers of products that are highly rated/used just because they might be anti-social. ;-D

Nathan.

Jaffa 2009-10-16 18:36

Re: N900 device program for maemo.org developers and contributors
 
To link your talk.maemo.org account and your maemo.org profile (so you can get karma based off your posts) see here. (And posts here are square-rooted for karma, so it'll take a lot of posts to get 200 points on unthanked posts. Thanked posts are multiplied by 8 so, much easier).

As has been said, some people will always feel they've fallen through the cracks - but do you think it's your job to moan about them on a public forum by purely looking at the karma list?

I would find it boggling if the PyMaemo folks didn't have access to a large number of N900s already. Indeed, Anderson's posts on maemo-developers to address the optification of Python suggest he already has.

The majority of this thread is just so... distasteful.

daperl 2009-10-16 18:37

Re: N900 device program for maemo.org developers and contributors
 
Well, while some of us Americans are waiting for qgil's response, I'll speculate. Using a percentage ratio I get this:

Nokia USA device discount

= $649 * ( €300 / €499 )

= $390 [60% of retail]

That's %20 more than my 100%-no-brainer-can't-live-without upper bound of $325 [50% of retail].

Let's just make it an even $350 and call it a day.

Texrat 2009-10-16 18:37

Re: N900 device program for maemo.org developers and contributors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 348798)
Yes, you can get karma from other places. If I'm not saying you couldn't it just appears a ton of karma is from talk or blog posts. Not a lot if giving for just plain developers. I'm not saying those aren't important -- in fact they are. I'm just trying to make sure that the developers who make the software that we all use aren't forgotten because they are not always "social" creatures. ;-D

Nathan

I think that's overestimated. Look at the first page of profiles, sorted by karma:
http://maemo.org/profile/list/

Some of those folks talk (like me :o) but they mostly earned their karma by "harder" means.

fpp 2009-10-16 18:41

Re: N900 device program for maemo.org developers and contributors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 348729)
200 karma is an extremely LOW bar to set for these discounts. Hell, look at Joshua. Dude's been here all of two or three months and already has more than half the amount of karma needed to get a discount.

...whereas I've been on ITt since the very beginning - almost four years now - and am still #17
poster overall, despite slowing down greatly in recent times... but still just barely made it above the bar,
with 203 (!) karma... go figure :-)


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