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lohiaprateek 2010-01-04 01:06
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
cool will try and get back to you

qole 2010-01-04 01:13
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Well, I struggled with sound for several hours on Saturday, and just couldn't get pulseaudio working. It either says, "Connection failure: Connection refused" or

Code:
GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details ?  1: Could not send message to GConf daemon: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1)
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Gnome::Conf::Error'
Aborted
I'm giving up until someone can help push me farther in the right direction...

lohiaprateek 2010-01-04 01:43
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
so i formated my mmc to ext2 with no FAT partition but whenever i try an mount mmcblk0 it gives me an error stating that the device is busy...u think a small FAT partition in a must

qole 2010-01-04 02:10
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lohiaprateek (Post 451977)
so i formated my mmc to ext2 with no FAT partition but whenever i try an mount mmcblk0 it gives me an error stating that the device is busy...u think a small FAT partition in a must
Oh, come on, now! I answered that one already!

Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 450832)
...partition a microSD card ... leave a small FAT partiton as the 1st partition...

delaroca 2010-01-04 02:21
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 449566)
I've uploaded a new version of easy-chroot with fixes for the stuff you guys have pointed out plus a couple of things I noticed myself.

Look at the author info on my git commit! ;)
With this latest version, 0.9.35-3, possibly problem when switching between images.

I am playing with the new debian-m5-v2 image as well as my old debian-squeeze image from my N800. Both images start fine! Closing them appears to not work properly... that is, after running CLOSE DEBIAN, editing .chroot to switch to the other image, START DEBIAN fails complaining that the previous image is still mounted.

Also, when starting my old debian-squeeze image for the 1st time I get,

Code:
synching the root
mv: cannot rename '/.debian/usr/share/X11/xkb': No such file or directory
...
It doesn't happen with your m5-v2 image.

Abiword, Gnumeric. Kchmviewer on my old debian image start up very fast... not so with oowriter, it takes forever! (I am not using LXDE)

Drop down menus are a problem: if they overflow the screen, their scroll down arrow can't be clicked as it lies within that seemingly 1-mm "dead-zone" screen border... fortunately, with the aid of the keyboard arrow keys one can navigate to the bottom of those menus and select the desired item. "Thin" scroll bars are also a big problem because of this,,,

My keyboard is only partially operational, ie., no blue keys... is that because i haven't copied /usr/share/X11/xkb directory to my chroot?

What happened to the control sequences to switch to/from full-screen?

--denis

go1dfish 2010-01-04 03:14
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 451949)
Well, I struggled with sound for several hours on Saturday, and just couldn't get pulseaudio working. It either says, "Connection failure: Connection refused" or

I'm giving up until someone can help push me farther in the right direction...
I've still not managed to get pulseaudio working from chroot, but it is possible to get direct alsa working.

WARNING: Using ALSA directly on a n900 may damage your speakers, don't blame me if you blow one. Use headphones to be safe

This is because there is a software equalization that happens in the n900's pulseaudio stack to prevent speaker damage that is presumably bypassed when hitting ALSA directly.

To get sound working for ALSA enabled applications I used the following /etc/asound.conf in my chroot (I downloaded qole's chroot quite a few weeks back, this file may have already been updated by him?):

Code:
pcm.!default {
    type hw
    card 0
}
ctl.!master {
    type hw
    card 0
}

# This last bit is me trying to get oss emulation working
# Not sure if it's helping at all, you can get oss
# emulation working using the aoss wrapper for
# individual applications
pcm.dsp1 {
    type plug
    slave.pcm "hw:0,0"
}

qole 2010-01-04 03:28
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
delaroca:

Welcome back!

Thanks for the bug report; please open a terminal and type "sudo closechroot" instead of using the "close debian" icon. You're right, that icon is broken now.

You also need the xkb directory to copy in order to get blue keys.

My default theme in the v2 image has wide scroll bars because the default scrollbars are too tiny on the N900's screen.

The fullscreen hacks are gone because I gave up running Debian apps in Maemo due to the terrible UI problems. You really do need LXDE now...

Maybe I should bring back the hacks -- can you name some apps that run well in the Fremantle GUI?

delaroca 2010-01-04 03:48
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 452037)
The fullscreen hacks are gone because I gave up running Debian apps in Maemo due to the terrible UI problems. You really do need LXDE now...

Maybe I should bring back the hacks -- can you name some apps that run well in the Fremantle GUI?
I need more than casual testing naturally, but Abiword, Gnumeric, Kchmviewer appear to run great on the Fremantle GUI... they start up very fast and there's no problem with input focus when switching to/from Fremantle apps. Once, though, when closing Abiword it caused a reboot of the N900.

Anyway, I've been testing mainly with my old Debian image. And I really need to put more time testing your v2 image! :-)

Thanks for your continued work with Easy-Chroot.

--denis

go1dfish 2010-01-04 04:02
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by delaroca (Post 452044)
I need more than casual testing naturally, but Abiword, Gnumeric, Kchmviewer appear to run great on the Fremantle GUI... they start up very fast and there's no problem with input focus when switching to/from Fremantle apps. Once, though, when closing Abiword it caused a reboot of the N900.

Anyway, I've been testing mainly with my old Debian image. And I really need to put more time testing your v2 image! :-)

Thanks for your continued work with Easy-Chroot.

--denis

The other behavior to watch out for is dialogs becoming unusable due to the way the Maemo5 window manager displays them (the black windows that pop up from the bottom and blur out the background)

delaroca 2010-01-05 19:39
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 452037)
My default theme in the v2 image has wide scroll bars because the default scrollbars are too tiny on the N900's screen.

The fullscreen hacks are gone because I gave up running Debian apps in Maemo due to the terrible UI problems. You really do need LXDE now...

Maybe I should bring back the hacks -- can you name some apps that run well in the Fremantle GUI?
The new theme is a mixed blessing, while enabling better control of sidebars and other elements is welcome, this zooming has the effect of shrinking even more the already small screen of the N900. By the way, in this new theme how do I restore the old color scheme?

Re apps that run well in the Fremantle GUI, I should have said that "should run well"... things have gotten more complicated nowadays. Only Abiword 2.8.1 seems to work fine now either via LXDE or via DEBBIE.

Gnumeric, v1.9.16, when started via DEBBIE produces a GCONF Error: failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-...: connection refused. And when run via LXDE, or from the CHROOT, starts fine but when importing previously working excel spreadsheets goes into a CPU loop.

Kchmviewer, v4.1-1+b1, installs fine... but is tripping on some permissions problem on /home/user/.kde... when launched from LXDE and DEBBIE. When launched from CHROOT, it comes up with blank window and hangs.

All of the above worked flawlessly on Diablo, granted with previous versions of those apps. However, playing with my old N800 debian image yielded no better results... so things are indeed more complicated with the Fremantle environment!

--denis


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