Originally Posted by MontyBravo (Post 487765)

Not at all, I am providing context, its not noise. Its a failing of the device which has been reported not just by the odd end user.

Do you understand maths ?

Only a small number of the userbase will report a fault to this forum

so a small number of complaints = a larger number of people having problems within the user base.

This forum is not the only channel for fault reports...

Simple!

Originally Posted by chrisp7 (Post 487773)

What are you going on about? This is an N900/Maemo forum - the vast majority of people in here have N900's for a reason, they obviously have money to afford any device and chose an N900 I dont think you need to preach to others what is so good about it..

err what?

This is exactly what we are talking about - Maemo people need to open their eyes - I sincerely hope Nokia are otherwise we are in trouble.

Have you read the reviews? The blogs? the comments on the forums? The broad opinion is positive.. but that it needs improvement, how can you come to any other conclusion?

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 487791)

I am a data analyst by profession. Do you want to go head to head over math and analytical skills?

You're still not grasping your error, but that's fine. You're in good company it seems.

As for "small number of complaints = a larger number of people having problems within the user base" -- that's beyond absurd. I suggest you read up on statistics, particularly vis-a-vis quality assurance.

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 487796)

Have you read any of MY reviews?

If you had, you'd be embarrased about your kneejerk assumptions.

Here, I'll help you out: click on my professional blog link below and read the "connecting on the surface" article.

I'm being very, very objective here. No preaching whatsoever... except maybe about the beauty of employing reason in arguments.

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 487791)

I am a data analyst by profession. Do you want to go head to head over math and analytical skills?

You're still not grasping your error, but that's fine. You're in good company it seems.

As for "small number of complaints = a larger number of people having problems within the user base" -- that's beyond absurd. I suggest you read up on statistics, particularly vis-a-vis quality assurance.

Originally Posted by chrisp7 (Post 487803)

So you would take the opinions of a Maemo forum over those of the average user, the general public? That is who Nokia should be listening to. We are the geeks/enthusiasts - we are the minority - we are not the ones who make money for Nokia. (Im in marketing;))

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 487814)

I think you need to take a deep breath and slow down. I'm not sure where you're getting your notions, but they're not from me.

Originally Posted by chrisp7 (Post 487809)

a) Where did I say you were preaching? Was my comment about preaching made to you..

b) My kneejerk assumptions? What kneejerk assumptions - please clarify to someone who has had the N900 since release and to someone what actual kneejerk assumptions I have made. Ridiculous.

c) Whats with the bloody defensiveness - is saying the software need improvement really that bad.

Originally Posted by MontyBravo (Post 487810)

Good company , it seems that if its not your opinion it has to be incorrect, data analyst ?

and you do not accept that problems are often not reported , therefore you need less a % of the user base to report a problem to consider it represents a larger majority,

this of course is amplified by the fact this is not the only channel of such reporting and most people will complain to the service provider or provider of the device, not a community forum. They will seek resolution of the problem from someone who might be able to resolve it...

and as you know as a mod a small % of active members of the site compared to visitors which of course backs up the point that most will not bother to post the negative (or positive of course) experiences.

But of course. I am wrong. 5 out of 5 persons, but just be a blip, a bad batch of devices. As are all the other comments on the email and the tearing on the ui e.t.c. All made up and isolated cases.

lol

MB