Re: N8 - More proof that Nokia is losing it
 

/me thinks no professional photographer would ever use that or describe it as 'professional'.

Well, maybe Anssi Vanjoki if he loses his job at Nokia and decides to become a professional photographer.

Re: N8 - More proof that Nokia is losing it
 

C'mon guys, take the blinkers off just for a moment.

A good smartphone must also have a really good web browser and email client.

And by good email client I mean full HTML and previews of each email's body text. I don't want to open every email to view its message. iPhone had all this back in 1997.

Granted, the N900's browser is excellent - however the email client is complete garbage.

Does that qualify the N900 as a dumbphone?

Re: N8 - More proof that Nokia is losing it
 

For me, a smartphone duplicates the document editing/publishing portions of what I do in the office as well as other things.

As I stated earlier, it's my opinion though... but the iPhone is more about media - iTunes Music Store, games via the iTMS, a semi-decent browser, a semi-decent e-mail app. But it's still mostly about music and apps, not exactly all about say... what BlackBerry offers in terms of communication, synchronization nor MS Office (sorry, it's an necessary evil) editing and publishing.

And I've never (personally) qualified the N900 as a smartphone either. It's... what it is. That's all I can say honestly before I draw the ire of the masses.

But the iPhone (to me) isn't quite exactly a smartphone by my expectations.

Re: N8 - More proof that Nokia is losing it
 

Oh. A new definition of smartphone again! It really seems every person on this planet has his own definition of "smartphone".

In the past, I've heard:

• must have PIM functionality
  or
• must support PC-style copy/paste and multitasking
  or
• must be able to run 3rd party applications
  or
• is defined by running an OS that is not unique to the model, but hardware independent
  or
• must have internet connectivity
  or
• everything above $500,-

Now you add web browsing and HTML mails. Cool. ;)

Re: N8 - More proof that Nokia is losing it
 

Yes, I also think that current version of email client is quite terrible when you compare to what you have on desktop computers and another smartphones/netbooks on same price market.

But one thing what I do not understand is HTML in email. WTF seriously? I know that i got some newsletters and advertisements as html email, but besides that? Why on earth someone would use html in their email? It´s pretty much worst thing you can do when communicating with other people. How on earth you know what system or client he/she is using?

Iphone and 1997 again wtf? Where these people come from who think that something that has been around for couple of years means that it´s been forever?

N900 excels on many other aspects and sucks monkeys balls on some. It has too big contrast between it´s official apps.

Re: N8 - More proof that Nokia is losing it
 

+1

I wish my ISP would allow me to simply block all HTML mails. So useless. Such a waste of resources.

Re: N8 - More proof that Nokia is losing it
 

Yeah I remember feeling the same way - in 1995.

I project manage a team of software developers. We do a lot of screenshots and send markups via email. An image conveys a 1000 words or something like that...

Re: N8 - More proof that Nokia is losing it
 

And that's why terminology like smart phone, casual gamers, and so on are entirely pointless.

Re: N8 - More proof that Nokia is losing it
 

I just want my feature phone.... (as opposed to feature-less one)

Re: N8 - More proof that Nokia is losing it
 

I'm big into cloud services for storage, synchronisation and document editing - Google Docs, Dropbox, Sugarsync, Flickr, etc. I also use Teamviewer and LogMeIn for remote control and support. Needless to say, there's an iPhone app for all of them. By my definition this type of functionality is smart - something I could only dream of 2 years ago. I'm also pretty sure I'd struggle to get the same functionality with a Nokia device.

BTW - I use to love my Nokia Communicators (9110, 9210, 9500, E90). But those days are long gone...