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rm42 2011-02-15 21:22

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
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Originally Posted by eikido (Post 947430)

No it says: "will contain these features". Sure, in a few years. In the mean time it is just a place holder, or vaporware.

zimon 2011-02-15 21:36

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
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Originally Posted by eikido (Post 947430)

Yes it says, lets wait and see if it comes to WP7 also. (You did read the whole text?)

But as I said, yes give MS a chance with Nokia also and try couple of WP7 Nokia phones in North-America. But do not throw everything else away to bet on this very unsure and risky card:
http://www.asymco.com/2011/02/11/in-...bile-partners/

phr 2011-02-15 21:45

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
That Nokia Plan B group doesn't seem to have the techical ability to run a simple web site, much less a huge company. First of all the server keeps crashing. Second, they are running Apache 1.3.x which is years obsolete. Third, they are transcluding Google APIs into the page, giving Google (Nokia's most dangerous competitor) the IP addresses of everyone who visits the Nokia Plan B site. Not too bright for a group that wants to take over the management of Nokia. I do like most of their general ideas though.

ericsson 2011-02-15 21:53

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
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Originally Posted by zimon (Post 947443)
Yes it says, lets wait and see if it comes to WP7 also. (You did read the whole text?)

But as I said, yes give MS a chance with Nokia also and try couple of WP7 Nokia phones in North-America. But do not throw everything else away to bet on this very unsure and risky card:
http://www.asymco.com/2011/02/11/in-...bile-partners/

It is funny how everybody know so well what Nokia should do except Nokia themselves. I wonder how they became the largest when they don't know anything at all. Complete vacuum.

Besides, the don't throw everything else away. At least be honest.

I have to add that WP+Nokia will be MUCH larger in Europe than in NA. Ordinary folks don't care about the OS, they look at the phone in the shop, see a high quality Nokia with a fluent and nice OS with a MS logo, Ovi (bing) maps and think: nice, got to have one.

rm42 2011-02-15 22:04

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
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Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 947457)
It is funny how everybody know so well what Nokia should do except Nokia themselves. I wonder how they became the largest when they don't know anything at all. Complete vacuum.

Besides, the don't throw everything else away. At least be honest.

I have to add that WP+Nokia will be MUCH larger in Europe than in NA. Ordinary folks don't care about the OS, they look at the phone in the shop, see a high quality Nokia with a fluent and nice OS with a MS logo, Ovi (bing) maps and think: nice, got to have one.

That may be true for low end phones. But if you have to spend some real money on it, you will do your research first.

Of course, in the US, where most people buy subsidized phones the situation may be different. But over here, techies have a lot of influence over our friends, family, and coworkers. See how well Android has done over here. I have been waiting for the "last step" Nokia device to appear to be able to direct people to it. In the mean time, even though I own an N900 and love it, I have had to direct people to Android phones.

NvyUs 2011-02-15 22:16

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
plan b

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQjh9H-ymK4

slender 2011-02-15 22:31

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
@rm42
it's true. About 5-7 friends of mine who have too much money and too little time ask for example from me all things about ps3,bluray,television,smartphones and laptops/desktops before they buy anything.

Texrat 2011-02-15 22:32

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Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 946628)
no offence but that article sounds like it was written by the love child of Texrat and Tomi Ahonen.
So much in common with the style

I'm still working on my 'haha'...

ericsson 2011-02-15 22:51

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
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Originally Posted by rm42 (Post 947469)
That may be true for low end phones. But if you have to spend some real money on it, you will do your research first.

I really don't think so. WP7 IS a nice OS, immature and lacking in many ways at the moment, but it really is nice and pleasant. Nokia makes the best HW, the quality of reception, the quality of the sound, the cameras, the solid feel - even on the ones made of plastic. On top of this is the ecosystem with maps, stores, music, mail - everything. People know Nokia and they know MS, even the ones that love to hate both. They hardly need to advertise, they can simply say - here, this is all you will ever need, and people will know it for a fact without any explanation at all.

John_Doe 2011-02-15 23:04

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
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Originally Posted by zimon (Post 947363)
it will take years to get multi-core support. Can Nokia really afford to wait that long?

Ehh, isn't this one of the minor difficulties with Symbian, ie the kernel would have to be rewritten to be able to use multi-core CPUs? And the big thing for Nokia is that Nokia clearly hasn't been capable to develop Symbian fast enough to keep up with the competition. I've got the impression that Nokia has realized that they can't afford to goof around any longer and that something radical had to be done.

And in addition, Symbian is dead on the US market regardless of how Nokia would have been able to develop it simply because a couple of American bloggers have declared that Symbian is **** because Symbian <> iOS and mainstream media ( and therefore the majority of potentional customers ) accepts this as gospel ...

Personally I think that one of Nokia's biggest errors was to try to turn Symbian into an Open Source project, they lost a lot of momentum (and even more critically, time) when that failed. All Open Source projects aren't successes and the Symbian thingy was clearly a failure.

And all of you who wish that Vanjoki would have been appointed CEO, keep in mind that regardless of his ability to perform, he actually was responsibile for the major areas where Nokia's smartphones have failed to keep up with the competition. The numbers don't lie.

I don't claim that I like current devlopements :mad:, but at least Nokia is trying to shake up itself.

I don't like what probably will be the fate of MeeGo but at the same time one has to be realistic, a MeeGo based phone would be more of an überphone than a phone for the joggingdresspeople and the joggingdresspeople are numerous and do buy a lot of phones, and wp7 is aimed at the joggingdresspeople ....:D


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